Wow interesting, that's not what the pilot did last time I was in a
R44... I'll demand another flight. ;)

On Jan 13, 8:54 pm, Lenny P <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us> wrote:
> Helicopter has no inherent disadvantages in terms of lift
> from a fixed wing.
> However, it's more susceptible to pilot error in critical phases of
> flight,
> in case of a power loss.
> For example, during takeoff, if the collective isn't lowered in case
> of
> a power loss in less than 2 seconds, an unrecoverable blade stall is
> likely to occur.
> This regime is only there for about 20 seconds on takeoff, though, and
> the likelihood
> of this occurring is very low.
> You can indeed auto-rotate in every normal flight regime, including
> tail rotor failure.
> This is why when taking off in a single-engine helicopter, you first
> accelerate along the surface
> and then gain altitude, so, in case of an engine failure, you can
> trade that airspeed for vertical lift.
> In case of a tail rotor failure, you would auto rotate, since if there
> is no torque there is
> no adverse yaw of the helicopter.
>
> On Jan 13, 11:21 am, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > However helicopters do have disadvantages over fixed wings models, in
> > that it's harder to redirect horizontal force vertically so if you
> > fall, you likely fall like a rock and crush your pelvis upon impact.
> > Even when commanding auto rotation, that only works between certain
> > height right? Can you still auto rotate if the tail rotor malfunctions
> > and you have to fight the torque of the main prop?
>
> > /Casper
>
> > On Jan 13, 5:12 pm, Lenny P <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us> wrote:
>
> > > If you look at the statistics 
> > > breakdown:http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications/nall.html
> > > you will see that the majority of pilot errors are things like fuel
> > > exhaustion,
> > > _continuing_ flight into adverse weather conditions (as opposed to
> > > turning around & land),
> > > low level maneuvering 'buzzing'.
>
> > > When driving, every mistake, a momentary lapse in concentration can
> > > result in an accident,
> > > thus 100% of total driving time is 'critical' time.
>
> > > When flying, the critical time is about 5% of flight time, during
> > > takeoffs and landings.
> > > This is when lack of skill can result in a chain of events leading to
> > > an accident,
> > > and most of these are non-fatal.
> > > The majority of fatal accidents are the result of improper decision
> > > making, often started
> > > before the flight even began, and isn't due to lack of flying skills.
>
> > > On Jan 13, 10:41 am, Scott Melton <scott_rides_ag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Living in Colorado I would love to learn how to fly, but still think it 
> > > > is too dangerous, especially in the mountains.. You almost had me with 
> > > > flying is safer than driving, but then I realized most auto accidents 
> > > > are also caused by user error...
>
> > > > sigh...
>
> > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Lenny P <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us> wrote:
>
> > > > From: Lenny P <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us>
> > > > Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter
> > > > To: "The Java Posse" <javaposse@googlegroups.com>
> > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:14 AM
>
> > > > I fly in the most expensive place near Manhattan,
> > > > it's $275/hr + instructor, for flight time only,
> > > > not for 'total time'
> > > > so it actually is more affordable than people think.
> > > > I fly around 1hr every 3 weeks on average,
> > > > not too expensive if you ask me.
>
> > > > And, an airplane is about $125/hr on average, so that's even cheaper.
>
> > > > Most heli, like airplane accidents are pilot error, so discounting
> > > > that it's safer to fly than to drive.
>
> > > > On Jan 12, 4:12 pm, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Would totally fly a heli if I could, last time though I had to pay
> > > > > $300 just to be a passenger. So I practice on smaller models and hope
> > > > > to someday build a FPV one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUupKOC1bTo
>
> > > > > ...which is 100% risk free flying. lol
>
> > > > > /Casper
>
> > > > > On Jan 12, 10:03 pm, Scott Melton <scott_rides_ag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > And the risk to life and limb?
>
> > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Kevin Wright <kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com> 
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > From: Kevin Wright <kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter
> > > > > > To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:44 PM
>
> > > > > > Besides the cost?
>
> > > > > > 2010/1/12 Lenny P <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us>
>
> > > > > > Why not fly a real helicopter?  It's a lot of fun and a rewarding
>
> > > > > > accomplishment.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 6, 3:53 am, Phil <p...@haigh-family.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I have something similar to what Tor described, erm sorry, I 
> > > > > > > bought
> > > > > > > one for my son last Christmas!! After playing with his indoor toy 
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > some time I ended up getting a T-Rex 450 of my own (I already fly 
> > > > > > > R/C
> > > > > > > fixed wing). Good fun! Go Tor...
>
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