[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Neale
I would be surprised if any J2ME phones were ones people were attached to - its more like grudging acceptance. Even blackberry kind of did their own thing. I think the most common response is Joe's flinging his razor into orbit ;) On Jul 2, 1:14 am, Joshua Marinacci wrote: > This is incorrect.

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Joshua Marinacci
This is incorrect. There are over a billion installations of Java on cellphones. Google has made J2ME based clients before Android and continues to do so. If you want to hit more than 5% of the market you have to use Java. On Jul 1, 2009, at 5:24 AM, Casper Bang wrote: > > I'm surprised I

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Casper Bang
Fabrizio, I don't feel like hijacking this thread, posted follow-up here instead: http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse/browse_thread/thread/9235ad4faf559ff5 /Casper On 1 Jul., 14:30, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > Casper Bang wrote: > > And on the mobile, Java > > was never as popular (forget Go

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Christian Catchpole
Do they twitter? perhaps if we know that Francis is about to eat a caesar salad, then all we be forgiven. On Jul 1, 8:44 pm, Jim Blackler wrote: > Status Quo the band contribute very little to open source. Francis > Rossi did a handful of Eclipse patches, that's it. > > 2009/7/1 Christian Catch

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Casper Bang wrote: > And on the mobile, Java > was never as popular (forget Gosling/Schwartz gazillion evangelism) as > now with Android. > Can you define "popular"? Possibly in terms of number of installations? Thanks. :-) -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Casper Bang
I'm surprised I haven't heard Dick complain about Google Earth, Picasa etc. not being written to run on the JVM. It's particular interesting that for these popular applications, Google actually prefers to pour money into Wine rather than implement in Java. And on the mobile, Java was never as popu

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Jim Blackler
Status Quo the band contribute very little to open source. Francis Rossi did a handful of Eclipse patches, that's it. 2009/7/1 Christian Catchpole : > > nothing... if you base your exceptions on the band, they will be > pretty high. > > On Jul 1, 7:13 pm, Michael Neale wrote: >> And what is wron

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Christian Catchpole
nothing... if you base your exceptions on the band, they will be pretty high. On Jul 1, 7:13 pm, Michael Neale wrote: > And what is wrong with the band? > > On Jul 1, 7:00 pm, Christian Catchpole > wrote: > > > How things have changed.  15 years ago, an organization 'giving away > > source code

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Neale
And what is wrong with the band? On Jul 1, 7:00 pm, Christian Catchpole wrote: > How things have changed.  15 years ago, an organization 'giving away > source code' would have their directors committed to a psychiatric > institution.  I'm not complaining.. just pointing out that right or > wrong

[The Java Posse] Re: In defense of The Google

2009-07-01 Thread Christian Catchpole
How things have changed. 15 years ago, an organization 'giving away source code' would have their directors committed to a psychiatric institution. I'm not complaining.. just pointing out that right or wrong our expectations of an organization are based on status quo (the concept, not that band)