[The Java Posse] Software patents vs the economy

2010-09-04 Thread Spencer Uresk
My educational background is in Finance and Economics, so I frequently find myself agreeing with Joe on a lot of the business and intellectual property-related discussions. However, I just can't get over his defense of software and business process patents. In the latest episode where Paul

[The Java Posse] Software Patents and Joe bashing

2010-04-08 Thread Scott Melton
In a free and open society it is easy to find fault in complicated systems, just as it is easy to have a bias, pick sides and misrepresent the facts. One example in this thread, I may be wrong, but I think there is good reason for simplifying the patent granting process from who invented it

Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents and Joe bashing

2010-04-08 Thread Mark Volkmann
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Scott Melton scott_rides_ag...@yahoo.comwrote: In a free and open society it is easy to find fault in complicated systems, just as it is easy to have a bias, pick sides and misrepresent the facts. One example in this thread, I may be wrong, but I think there

Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents and Joe bashing

2010-04-08 Thread Scott Melton
on this model is a rarely helpful yet necessary weevil. Caution should be to limit it where ever possible.   Opinion sent from my ASS phone. --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents

Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents and Joe bashing

2010-04-08 Thread Viktor Klang
helpful yet necessary weevil. Caution should be to limit it where ever possible. Opinion sent from my ASS phone. --- On *Thu, 4/8/10, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents and Joe bashing

Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents

2010-04-08 Thread Scott Melton
to not be completely off topic. Please, you folks that know something about this issue, carry on. --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Viktor Klang viktor.kl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Viktor Klang viktor.kl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents and Joe bashing To: javaposse@googlegroups.com

Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents

2010-04-08 Thread Viktor Klang
for upholding monopolies by approving of patent law. And if it turns out to be not feasible, we should change it. --- On *Thu, 4/8/10, Viktor Klang viktor.kl...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Viktor Klang viktor.kl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents To: javaposse

Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents

2010-04-08 Thread Peter Becker
On 09/04/10 08:13, Scott Melton wrote: Would you agree that patents and property rights greatly accelerate the rate of innovations, accelerating the growth of a free market economy? Not at all -- I claim the opposite and the jury is still out. Even proponents of patent law seem to

Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents

2010-04-08 Thread Scott Melton
I have little knowledge about the topic(only an opinion) and do not wish to join the discussion. Please carry on. Cheers! --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Software Patents To: javaposse

[The Java Posse] software patents

2010-04-05 Thread phil.swen...@gmail.com
There is a supreme court case that has already been heard on business method patents. Some think if the Supreme Court finds that business method patents aren't valid all software patents are out the window: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_re_Bilski This blog (Brad Feld, he's a venture

Re: [The Java Posse] software patents

2010-04-05 Thread Erlend Hamnaberg
Great news :) On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:11 PM, phil.swen...@gmail.com phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote: There is a supreme court case that has already been heard on business method patents. Some think if the Supreme Court finds that business method patents aren't valid all software patents are

Re: [The Java Posse] software patents

2010-04-05 Thread Viktor Klang
wohooo! On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:11 PM, phil.swen...@gmail.com phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote: There is a supreme court case that has already been heard on business method patents. Some think if the Supreme Court finds that business method patents aren't valid all software patents are out the

Re: [The Java Posse] software patents

2010-04-05 Thread Moandji Ezana
I was kind of disappointed by the discussion of the Apple vs. HTC case - especially the lack of specifics. Maybe the Posse members were busy preparing the round up, and other things, but I was surprised to hear several times something along the lines of We don't know what the patents Apple is