[JAWS-Users] AVG works with jaws properly no longer have to unload jaws!

2008-05-22 Thread Orhan Deniz
ng the \control panel. Hope this helped a lot of AVG 8.0 users, go to http://www.freedomscientific.com to download it, or use the check for updates feature. Orhan Deniz. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Orhan.deniz63 Blog: Http://WorldAndOther.wordpress.co

Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW: RE: Huge problem with multiple JAWS versionsonsame PC

2008-05-13 Thread Orhan Deniz
dude, that was for the braillenote list! lol. Orhan Deniz. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Orhan.deniz63 Blog: Http://WorldAndOther.wordpress.com Twitter: Http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008 - Original Message - From: Derek Roberts To: jaws-users

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and accessible software

2008-05-13 Thread Orhan Deniz
Enque. Orhan Deniz. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Orhan.deniz63 Blog: Http://WorldAndOther.wordpress.com Twitter: Http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008 - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent

Re: [JAWS-Users] Should I upgrade to a newer version of winamp?

2008-05-08 Thread Orhan Deniz
Yes, I do not like that saying... Why? cause then ya will not be able to keep up with new technology. Orhan Deniz. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Orhan.deniz63 Blog: Http://WorldAndOther.wordpress.com Twitter: Http://www.twitter.com/kvp2008

Re: [JAWS-Users] service pack 3

2008-05-08 Thread Orhan Deniz
na dude, there shouldn't be any issues. Unless some hardware change like PCI soundcards etc may cost ya an activation from jfw. Orhan Deniz. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: Orhan.deniz63 Blog: Http://WorldAndOther.wordpress.com Twitter:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking and unchecking using Jaws cursor

2008-05-05 Thread Orhan Deniz
Hello Flor and List, the left click key in jaws will check and uncheck checkboxes using the jaws cursor. Orhan. At 14:00 05/05/2008, you wrote: >WHEN USING THE JAWS CURSOR, NOT NECESSARILY > >- Original Message - >From: "tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:23 P

[JAWS-Users] windows Xp sp3 direct download link

2008-04-29 Thread orhan deniz
hi all, First of all, sorry for the cross post. Microsoft released windows XP sp3 (RTM) today. here is the direct download link to it: http://tinyurl.com/3e7wvp the link is a tiny URl link which basically means making a long link in to a shorter link. but it redirects you to the right site anyway

Re: [JAWS-Users] version of scripts

2008-04-29 Thread orhan deniz
insert or capslock q. orhan. - Original Message - From: Leonard Morris To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] version of scripts What is the keystroke to determine the version of the scripts being used for any given

Re: [JAWS-Users] New Jaws update posted.

2008-04-24 Thread orhan deniz
HI, this is a bit off topicfor the subject, , but loads of people are downloading this now, so have a bit of patience. orhan. - Original Message - From: Alex Stone To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Jaws updat

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and outlook express

2008-04-10 Thread orhan deniz
e thing about other email clients, and i think > i need to stick with OE. > > Thanks again, > Michelle > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:29 AM, orhan deniz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> i don't understand, why you are having bad luck with Outlook >> express, jaw

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and outlook express

2008-04-10 Thread orhan deniz
i don't understand, why you are having bad luck with Outlook express, jaws works fine with it. trust me, i'm subscribed to about 15 lists, and read about 500 messages a day and have no trouble. either you are doing some thing wrong, or jaws or OE is acting up. try doing a repair of jaws, that

Re: [JAWS-Users] blogs

2008-04-07 Thread orhan deniz
I give them? That's my question. > - Original Message - > From: "orhan deniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] blogs > > > advertise your blog.just literally tell people about it. put i

Re: [JAWS-Users] blogs

2008-04-07 Thread orhan deniz
advertise your blog.just literally tell people about it. put it in your e-mail signature. i dunno, do some form of adevrtising. hth, orhan. On Monday, April 07, 2008 8:13 PM Nancy Lynn wrote: > I just created a blog at www.blogspot.com called Nancy's Nuggets and > I wrote > its introduction. Now

Re: [JAWS-Users] email program problems

2008-04-06 Thread orhan deniz
so do i. i find the interface of thunderbird clunky. orhan. On Sunday, April 06, 2008 1:12 PM James Scholes wrote: > Hmm. I'd say OE or Windows Mail. Never been a fan of the interface of > Thunderbird. > > Chris Hallsworth wrote: >>> Hi, probably both? They probably want to know what's the most

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws cut/copy

2008-04-06 Thread orhan deniz
no i think its a bug in jaws9. orhan. On Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:49 AM Donnie Parrett wrote: > Try restarting your computer. That is what always fixes the problem > for me. > > Contact me at: > Donnie Parrett > 1956 Asa Flat Road > Annville, KY 40402 > Home # 606-364-3321 > Cell # 606-438-2

Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw and keynote drivers

2008-04-03 Thread orhan deniz
the upgrade in jaws 8 and 9 to the keynote drivers is flalky. contact me off list for the old drivers. orhan. On Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:10 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Okay I just wasn't sure if there were an upgrade to the drivers. > Thanks > Chris > - Original Message - > From:

Re: [JAWS-Users] RSS Readers and JAWS

2008-03-28 Thread orhan deniz
yes internet explorer works fine on XP. rss feeds can be read via firefox, but not webbie, there is a sepearate application called "accessible rss reader" which comes with the webbie tools. orhan. On Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:36 PM Derek Roberts wrote: > Hi, if you have Internet Exploder (oop

Re: [JAWS-Users] asking about music production programs

2008-03-25 Thread orhan deniz
oh yes, trance music! what do you want to do exactly? for midi sonar is good, it costs around i think 300 dollars. There is also a qequencer called QWs. if you want to do editing or 3d loops or some thing, there is goldwave which costs around 50 dollars. orhan. On Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:03

Re: [JAWS-Users] security software and anti virus programs

2008-03-25 Thread orhan deniz
ibe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: "orhan deniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] security software and anti virus programs > >

Re: [JAWS-Users] security software and anti virus programs

2008-03-25 Thread orhan deniz
is it out of the question? well guys, i need some clarification. is the new version navigable with the jaws cursor? if you use tools like the prompt creator and frames manager then can you get around. see guys, inaccessible means totally inaccessible. orhan. On Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:01 PM

Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Player 11 & Jaws 9

2008-03-18 Thread orhan deniz
no, just use winamp with the real codec plugin. get it from the website. orhan. On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:41 PM 鍾智明 wrote: > how about Jaws 8. > does it accessable for the real player 11? > --- Shari Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 說: > >> Hi Listers, At work I need to access a webcast. >> The w

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws shortcut key not working

2008-03-17 Thread orhan deniz
what i do is make my jaws numbered. for jaws 9, ctrl alt 9. hope you get the jist. orhan. - Original Message - From: "sunset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws shortcut key not working >I had that issue. I had to give it a diffe

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 9 sluggish unlike 7

2008-03-13 Thread orhan deniz
I FIND JAWS 7 EXTREMELY SLUGGISH ON MY LAPTOP, AND JAMES YOU KNOW MY LAPTOP. ORHAN. On Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:01 PM, James Scholes wrote > Hello Chris Feist, > > You wrote: I thought I would ask if anyone else has noticed sluggish > behavior of any kind in these newer versions? > No, in fact

Re: [JAWS-Users] Email Program That Is JAWS Friendly

2008-03-04 Thread orhan deniz
a simple program or a couple should i say are: 1. npop. 2. popcorn. these are very simple e-mail clientts. a note about npop, it initially downloads message headers. you can get popcorn from the jaws users website and when i've got time, i'll give you the link for npop. orhan. ps, i'm not sure

Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting JAWS 8 from Run dialog

2008-03-04 Thread orhan deniz
i honestly have to laugh at the way this thread is turning out! lololololololol. orhan. - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting JAWS 8 from Run dialog > jaws8 > David Ferrin > [EMAIL PRO

Re: [JAWS-Users] [JFW] Spanish-English-Spanish dictionary?

2008-02-22 Thread orhan deniz
i would like the same for french and german please, orhan deniz. ways to contact me: msn/windows live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: orhan.deniz63 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com

[JAWS-Users] pocket jaws on pacmate question

2008-02-22 Thread orhan deniz
g a PM BX and not an Omni. thanks in advance, orhan deniz. ways to contact me: msn/windows live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: orhan.deniz63 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users

Re: [JAWS-Users] hidden file extensions

2008-02-22 Thread orhan deniz
this is the most ridiculouss behaviour of windows i've seen! orhan deniz. ways to contact me: msn/windows live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: orhan.deniz63 Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www

Re: [JAWS-Users] keynote sa with jaws

2008-02-20 Thread orhan deniz
can i have them? send them to me, thanks. orhan deniz. ways to contact me: msn/windows live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: orhan.deniz63 - Original Message - From: "Agent86b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:41 PM Su

Re: [JAWS-Users] keynote sa with jaws

2008-02-20 Thread orhan deniz
can you send me the 7.1 driver. i am using jaws 8. orhan deniz. ways to contact me: msn/windows live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: orhan.deniz63 - Original Message - From: "Chris & Doris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, Febru

[JAWS-Users] keynote sa with jaws

2008-02-20 Thread orhan deniz
hi guys, i like to use my keynote sA, well, my braillenote as a keynote Sa speech synthesiser. my problem is that keynote seems to say strange u letter type things and occationally y diresees. do you guys know why? orhan deniz. ways to contact me: msn/windows live ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail

Re: [JAWS-Users] Convert cda to mp3

2008-02-17 Thread orhan deniz
CDEX is by far the best one in my opinion, no scripts required. orhan. - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Convert cda to mp3 > Look up on the web site. > David Ferrin > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [JAWS-Users] empty tables

2008-02-17 Thread orhan deniz
what are these tables. are they data tables or just HTML layout tables. in config manager go to set options menu and go to HTMl options, on the tables and lists tab, tab to the table combobox, select data tables. tif you have all tables selected, sometimes you will just get HTML layout tables w

Re: [JAWS-Users] scripting question

2008-02-15 Thread orhan deniz
that vertual cursor toggle function is not new, its been around for ages! === orhan deniz. "herseyin sonunu dusunen kahraman olamaz!" check out my blog of rants at: http://urfa63.livejournal.com - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

[JAWS-Users] o.t: downgrading to windows XP sp1

2008-01-25 Thread orhan deniz
hello list, i really need to downgrade to windows XP sp1. this may sound simple but my PC shipped with SP2. so, i can't seem to remove it in the dd/remove programs list. orhan. ps, i need to downgrade and then upgrade because of a bluetooth problem. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS speech

2008-01-25 Thread orhan deniz
www.nextup.com in the free voices section. orhan.- Original Message - From: "Derek Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS speech > l&h? where do you get those voices? > > thanks! > &

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS speech

2008-01-25 Thread orhan deniz
h > Orhan, I did a sapi 4 detect. True voice is not one of the options > listed > after the detect. > Is there somethingg else I should do? > Thanks, > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of orhan deni

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS speech

2008-01-24 Thread orhan deniz
they are sapi 4 voices. you need to do a sapi 4 detect. then choose true voice from the synthesiser menu once jaws has found it.just as a note. orhan. ps, if any one is curious, they are from learnout and hausbee .- Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent

Re: [JAWS-Users] sapi 5 eloquence

2008-01-23 Thread orhan deniz
ork with that Eloquence, only its own > locked version. > > - Original Message - > From: "orhan deniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:06 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] sapi 5 eloquence > > > hello, is it possible to

Re: [JAWS-Users] sapi 5 eloquence

2008-01-23 Thread orhan deniz
i 5 eloquence > Hi orhan, > > Unfortunately the answer to your question is no, or so I believe. I have > it > on my system for SAPI4, but not for SAPI5. And I only have SAPI4 support > as > it comes with K1000 > > ------ > F

[JAWS-Users] sapi 5 eloquence

2008-01-23 Thread orhan deniz
hello, is it possible to get sapi 5 eloquence? i mean, i don't want to install window-eyes just for eloquence sapi 5. the reason is because i want to use it with other applications. orhan. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.

Re: [JAWS-Users] add on for Jaws

2008-01-23 Thread orhan deniz
no me neither, the web support is as far as it can go. agree with you james. people should just learn there screen reader. its counter-productive to use a application that is made for the blind and there is a better version of that application for the sighted. well, at least in my opinion.

Re: [JAWS-Users] Goldwave scripts updated

2008-01-23 Thread orhan deniz
yeah, jim wrote the goldwave scripts and i have them installed. orhan. - Original Message - From: "James Scholes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Goldwave scripts updated Hi where do we get the new scripts? and I thought that Ji

Re: [JAWS-Users] Google page creator

2008-01-21 Thread orhan deniz
yeah, and it doesn't recognise HTML code properly so what? it marks up everything with headings.- Original Message - From: "Tracy Kiel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google page creator > It's in the labs section; you can fin

Re: [JAWS-Users] What was the last really good version of Winamp?

2008-01-19 Thread orhan deniz
yeah those scripts crash my jaws. i'm using jaws for windows 8.0 i personally use no libarry management. i just have a directory on my C drive called music in witch i put all artits by album or song.- Original Message - From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, Januar

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not announcing messages automatically in wlm andintro

2008-01-19 Thread orhan deniz
hmm, strange try repairing jaws. oh yeah and use a good font. i have experienced with weird fonts that jaws will not anounce deleted charictors. make it something like times new roman or areal. - Original Message - From: "Derek Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 1

Re: [JAWS-Users] Where did the British voice go?

2008-01-17 Thread orhan deniz
yeah do that, or download eloquence from: http://www.freedomscientific.com go to the support link. and select jaws from the combo box. then select synthesisers from the other combobox. once the page has loaded, press l to move to the list of questions. remember: if you are using any version abuve

[JAWS-Users] turkish speech synthesiser

2008-01-10 Thread orhan deniz
hello list, does anyone know of a turkish speech synthesiser. not necessarly turkish, but does it support turkish? i am thinking of a sapi 5 synthesiser, and if possible, free. orhan. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-a

Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Player

2008-01-10 Thread orhan deniz
i use winamp for that. consult david ferrins perior e-mail for that. - Original Message - From: "Mark Driesenga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Real Player > You know, I don't know simply b/c I only use Real Player to listen t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Happy Birthday David ferrin

2008-01-06 Thread orhan deniz
i don't like the key assignments for hal. but anyway, i get to use jaws at home, jaws at school, so i guess thats really cool in some circomstances.yey! - Original Message - From: "James Scholes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hap

[JAWS-Users] outlook sluggish problem

2008-01-06 Thread orhan deniz
hello list, i am using microsoft outlook 2003 with no add-ins. well, let me clarify my self, i was using outlook 2003. how ever, the main reason why i had to switch to outlook express is because outlook will get so unresponsive to the point ware you need to debug jaws and reload it. this problem

Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible reminder web sites and program

2008-01-06 Thread orhan deniz
oh thats cool. - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible reminder web sites and program > This was picked off another list, I present it here for your convenience. > I wish people would use

Re: [JAWS-Users] Happy Birthday David ferrin

2008-01-06 Thread orhan deniz
oh right, so not window-eyes or hal. well when i first started using computers, i had a screenreader called hal. at that time, i virtually understood nothing about hal and the manual was so complex. and nothing would read properly. i never knew that the map file (the script we call it in jaws) had

Re: [JAWS-Users] possible updates to the web site

2008-01-05 Thread orhan deniz
the program's capability. > HTH, > Richard Q. Justice > www.blind-computing.com > - Original Message - > From: "orhan deniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] possible updates to t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Happy Birthday David ferrin

2008-01-05 Thread orhan deniz
yes, james, you rase a good point. i'm curious, what screenreader he used before. I tell you, its window-eyes, because at that time, they did not have hal in america. in the UK, we have had it for ages. i don't intend to offend anyone, but i really think hal is a really instable and rubbish scree

Re: [JAWS-Users] possible updates to the web site

2008-01-05 Thread orhan deniz
heres my one, i don't use this program, how ever, i would like to know ware i can get tutorials for sound forge. i asume, david does not use this program, but correct me if i am wrong. you see, i can't find a good enough tutorial for it, and it would be really good to see what it can do. orh

Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 7 web pages not opening

2007-12-29 Thread orhan deniz
to switch from tab to tab, press "ctrl+tab" to open a link in a new tab, press "Ctrl+enter" to open a new webpage as a new tab press "ctrl+t" to open a new tab from the address bar, press "alt+enterr. note: the keystroke for on-mouse-overs has changed to "ctrl+ins+enter" rather than "ctrl+enter"

Re: [JAWS-Users] standard CD tracks to MP3

2007-12-29 Thread orhan deniz
CDex is fantastic. no scripts required. - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] standard CD tracks to MP3 > Hi Tom, go for CDex. Very accessible and it's free. Can convert from > one forma

Re: [JAWS-Users] having trouble with start page of avg

2007-12-29 Thread orhan deniz
no me neither. the demo you are talking about was from blind cool tech? a little while ago. yeah, I listened to that, how ever, in the paid version there is a advanced interface. however, this does not apply to the free version. also, you have to press space bar on a button - enter won't work for

Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk access 32 with Jaws

2007-12-23 Thread orhan deniz
>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk access 32 with Jaws >> >> >>I am reasonably sure that GW Micro is the official distributer of Access32 >>now. Try going to www.gwmicro.com and looking around there. >>- Original Message - >>From: "orhan d

Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG

2007-12-23 Thread orhan deniz
yes I use XP and have windows defender installed. its very accessible but I also have other adware and spyware removal tools. - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG > Hi, since I use Vis

Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG

2007-12-23 Thread orhan deniz
yeah the graphic labels are on the jaws-users website. i also use a spyware remover called spybot search and destroy. - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG > Hi, the free spyware that

Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk access 32 with Jaws

2007-12-22 Thread orhan deniz
However, I am using the same Acccess32 > software I bought when it first came out over ten years ago. I am using > JFW > 9 with my Access32. > > HTH > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of orhan deniz > Sent

Re: [JAWS-Users] By Pass Key Stroke

2007-12-22 Thread orhan deniz
the bypass keystroke allows the next key press to go directly to the application rather than jaws. so for example: in firefox the keystroke ctrl + K takes you to the search box. however, if you pressed this, you would set a temparory placemarker in jaws. so pressing insert + number row 3 allo

[JAWS-Users] DecTalk access 32 with Jaws

2007-12-22 Thread orhan deniz
hello list, i was wondering if it was still possible to get DecTalk access 32 for jaws? i am upgrading jaws to version 9 and Hope to get it, but i can't find it on the freedom scientific website. thanks in advance, orhan. Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address f