[JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-06 Thread Wei-ju Wu
Hi, I am currently developing a frontend for creating and editing EJB deployment descriptors. I started the project one and a half week ago. A preview version is currently available at my website (many things are not yet implemented): http://www.joyful-noise.de/jbossgui (Sorry for the german s

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-06 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
GUI. Have fun - Mad Andy > -Original Message- > From: Wei-ju Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss > > > Hi, > > I am currently developing a fro

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Wei-ju Wu
> I am starting to create a management GUI see project > JBossMGT but right now I am only working on making > JBoss manageable but have no clear idea how to create > the GUI. Do you need some help on that point ? I could spend some time thinking about it if I know how it should be used. > Theref

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Andreas Schaefer
Hi - Original Message - From: "Wei-ju Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss > > I am starting to create a management GUI see project > > JBossM

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Hiram Chirino
efer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss >Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:03:14 -0700 > >Hi > >- Original Message - >From: "Wei-ju Wu" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Jacob Andresen
hi everybody, this is my first posting to jboss-dev. I hope to contribute some code to Jboss someday:oP > Yes, I could need some help. Right now I postponed the design > for a GUI because I am focused on implementing the server > stuff. > There are two things right now I would need: > - Design o

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Andreas Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss > > Anreas, > > Quick FYI for anybody starting up a new GUI tool/IDE > > Just wanted to let you know that IBM is opening the core of WebSphere Studio > (in the near future) Not sur

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Andreas Schaefer
]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss > hi everybody, > > this is my first posting to jboss-dev. I hope to contribute some code to > Jboss someday:oP > > > Yes, I could need som

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Jacob Andresen
hi again:) > Hi > > The general idea is that JBoss implements JSR-77 and the management > GUI uses the JSR-77 interfaces. Therefore the client does not have > to know much about JBoss. > oki.. I will start playing around with JSR-77. > I will try to consolidate the positions and ideas on the JBo

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Wei-ju Wu
t whether Swing, or WML/HTML... That would be a lot of work though. Wei-ju - Original Message - From: "Andreas Schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-08 19.05, Jacob Andresen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > JbossMGT client could run on your mobile phone :oP Yes ... design in a PresenterFactory interface in front of the JSR-77 interface that can be used by a JMX, HTML, WAP, anyOtherProtocol client classes to generate (transcode) the dat

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Holger Engels
Sorry, I don't quite understand .. what was so bad about the ejx approach? I recognized ejx as a _generic_ powerful, simply to use framework for building xml-editors. I think, it would be a better idea, to build upon the existing editors and make them more user friendly, verbose and fool prove.

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
8, 2001 6:30 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss > > > > Sorry, I don't quite understand .. what was so bad about the > ejx approach? > I recognized ejx as a _generic_ powerful, simply to use framework for > bui

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
D] > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss > > > on 1-08-08 19.05, Jacob Andresen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > JbossMGT client could run on your mobile phone :oP > > Yes ... design in a PresenterFactory interface in front of the JSR-77 > inte

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Fagerlund
Now I am really confused - not just but really ;-) You say that MGT will use EJB as communication instead of JMX as bus ? I can se a PresentationFactory using EJB as collector of data before it delegates to its HTML, Wap, Swing or whatHaveU for presentation specific processing, but for MGT of JB

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-08 19.39, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > - we have a dedicated, stripped-down application server > running the management server Should'ent all servers in one domain be able to be the MGT server for that instance domain ? - dynamic swap for service/fail over ? /peter_f

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
ions about how to use JMX with JSR-77 but I don't know where they are heading to. Andy > -Original Message- > From: Peter Fagerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interf

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Jacob Andresen
> on 1-08-08 19.39, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > - we have a dedicated, stripped-down application server > > running the management server > > Should'ent all servers in one domain be able to be the MGT server for that > instance domain ? - dynamic swap for service/fail ov

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
ent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss > > > on 1-08-08 19.39, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > - we have a dedicated, stripped-down application server > > runni

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-08 22.03, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe you have a farm of app. servers w/o a Servlet Engine but > you need one for the MGT server. Scenario : - I have two machines running JBoss with servlet engines for failover and loadbalance purposes ! - I would not run one o

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
Hi > -Original Message- > From: Peter Fagerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss > > > on 1-08-08 22.03, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-09 Thread Holger Engels
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Schaefer, Andreas wrote: > Did you work with EJX. I tried to use it and it has some > nice features but in the case of EJX (at least for me) it > is too complicated and NO docu. > I liked the idea of using Beans and the Bean Framework but > the actual version of EJX is clunky

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Peter Fagerlund
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Schaefer, Andreas wrote: > When you want to reanimate EJX please do so but keep in > mind that this is a big job and we need someone dedicated > to it. on 1-08-10 09.16, Holger Engels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > BTW, where are the sources for the EjbJar ResourceManager? I onl

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Rickard Öberg
Peter Fagerlund wrote: > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Schaefer, Andreas wrote: > > When you want to reanimate EJX please do so but keep in > > mind that this is a big job and we need someone dedicated > > to it. > on 1-08-10 09.16, Holger Engels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > BTW, where are the sources fo

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-10 13.28, Rickard Öberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Some of the EJX parts is closed source ... > > EJX is OpenSource, BSD license. What parts do you think are closed > source? some dreambean stuff - or that was my understanding : 1) becouse it is mentioned on this list (old JBossGUI

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Rickard Öberg
Peter Fagerlund wrote: > some dreambean stuff - or that was my understanding : > 1) becouse it is mentioned on this list (old JBossGUI = closed source) That's a lie. It's BSD. Download source from http://dreambean.com/ejx.html > 2) when i looked at the distro could not find source - lot of barfi

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-10 14.19, Rickard Öberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Peter Fagerlund wrote: >> some dreambean stuff - or that was my understanding : >> 1) becouse it is mentioned on this list (old JBossGUI = closed source) > > That's a lie. It's BSD. Download source from > http://dreambean.com/ejx.html

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Rickard Öberg
Peter Fagerlund wrote: > I was refering to : Re: [JBoss-dev] EJX and XML > on 1-06-25 19.30, marc fleury at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > yes EJX doesn't really belong here anymore. Also rickard is not supporting > > it, it doesn't really work, and finally they are com.dreambean classes not > > JB

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Wei-ju Wu
Hm, it is not the code that made me think of a complete rewrite, it's (IMHO) its non-existence of usability and user-friendliness which lies in its concept. Furthermore, the advanced options of EJB 2.0 and JBoss >= 2.4 are not supported. I think user interfaces should be developed more from the

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread David Jencks
On 2001.08.10 09:43:36 -0400 Peter Fagerlund wrote: > > heh ... > > This now gives me the opportunity to then *repete* what has been > mentioned > before - a general clean up in the module structure - where We do not > have > *one ant lib per module* for ex. - would be welcome ... (also that som

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Holger Engels
On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Wei-ju Wu wrote: > Hm, it is not the code that made me think of a complete > rewrite, it's (IMHO) its non-existence of usability and > user-friendliness which lies in its concept. > > Furthermore, the advanced options of EJB 2.0 and > JBoss >= 2.4 are not supported. > > I th