Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Scott M Stark
where. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: "julien viet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Scott M Stark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Re[2]: [

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Dain Sundstrom
From: "Remy Maucherat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming Scott M Stark wrote: We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be rep

Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 04:39 AM, julien viet wrote: I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text : <% for (int i = 0;i < 5;i++) { %> <%= i %> <% } %> I lo

Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
SMS> From: "Remy Maucherat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SMS> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SMS> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:13 AM SMS> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming >> Scott M Stark wrote: >> > We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Scott M Stark
ay, April 01, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > Scott M Stark wrote: > > We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if > > the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte[] > > view of classes as far

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Remy Maucherat
Scott M Stark wrote: We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte[] view of classes as far as I know. Its something to look into as another optimization/benefit of embedding the web container into JBos

Re: Re[11]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Scott M Stark
. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: "julien viet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: Re[11]: [JBoss-dev]

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Remy Maucherat
julien viet wrote: I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've already done that. JSP compilation is now functional again in Tomcat 4.1.x. I recommend you deploy your production webapps (Nukes, etc) with that and explicit mappings for the JSPs in web.xml. You can see all the

Re[11]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
>> I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, >> I've already done that. mf> there you go then, >> However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's >> why I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore. mf> Stop being such a "choupette", it is anoying. Where is the

Re: Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Holger Baxmann
language. BB> Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of julien viet Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:36 AM To: Pavel Kolesnikov Subject: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming for me no. I don't like jsp tags. PK> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wro

Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Holger Baxmann
is as your fave part cause most folks that do tons of JSP think this is one of the more evil parts of JSP... From: julien viet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:39:33 +0200 To: marc fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is com

RE: Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread marc fleury
> I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, > I've already done that. there you go then, > However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's > why I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore. Stop being such a "choupette", it is anoying. Where is the can-do atti

Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
uesday, April 01, 2003 7:36 AM >> To: Pavel Kolesnikov >> Subject: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming >> >> >> for me no. I don't like jsp tags. >> >> PK> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: >> >> >> I dont't want to reinvent a s

Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Hunter Hillegas
TED]> > Subject: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are > not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of > JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text : > > > <% for (int i = 0;i &l

RE: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Bill Burke
April 01, 2003 7:36 AM > To: Pavel Kolesnikov > Subject: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > > for me no. I don't like jsp tags. > > PK> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: > > >> I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are > >

Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
for me no. I don't like jsp tags. PK> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: >> I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are >> not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of >> JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text : >> >> >> <% for (int i = 0;i

Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Pavel Kolesnikov
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: > I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are > not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of > JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text : > > > <% for (int i = 0;i < 5;i++) { %> > <%= i %> > <% } %> > > Ok

Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Holger Baxmann
OTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular Java based web scripting. mf> JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we r

Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
;> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming >> >> >> I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some >> other popular Java based web scripting. mf> JSP is clearly the

RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-31 Thread Bill Burke
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of marc > fleury > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > > > > > -Original

RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-31 Thread marc fleury
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bill Burke > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > > I'd really prefer JSP i

Re: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-31 Thread Hunter Hillegas
MAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular > Java based web scripting. > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-31 Thread Bill Burke
gt; >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom > >> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > >> > >> > >> I talked with 2 compiler projects

Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
compiler for mf> NUKES? JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules? mf> marcf >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom >> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM >> To: [E

RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
ay, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming > > > I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were > interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and > got busy on > some other stuff.

Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the contact info. -dain On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote: Hel

RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
> cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, > i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - > generate xmbeam - deploy it > > pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if > we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but > that would help

Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
Hello Marcel, Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: MA> julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >> JD> Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like >> JD> PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language >> JD> with its rich extensions an

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Marcel Ammerlaan
julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > JD> Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like > JD> PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language > JD> with its rich extensions and apis. > > we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished > havin

Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
JD> It is certainly possible, though it does not look like the new features JD> will inhibit PHP folks from coding they way they do now. It just looks JD> like it will allow them to write better software. I spent the past 2 JD> weeks writing a PHP application and over and over I wished for feat

Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Jason Dillon
It is certainly possible, though it does not look like the new features will inhibit PHP folks from coding they way they do now. It just looks like it will allow them to write better software. I spent the past 2 weeks writing a PHP application and over and over I wished for features like name

Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
not sure they will keep php community whith them. for me php success is settled on the fact php scripters don't have to worry about theses kinds of things. JD> Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. JD> --jason JD> On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Jason Dillon
Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. --jason On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet wrote: sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv> have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv> they added : exceptions, modifier

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-29 Thread julien viet
sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv> have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv> they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. jv> it's mono powered. jv> it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and h

[JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-29 Thread julien viet
have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. it's mono powered. it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have to get more credibility for that. julien -