[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2008-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think it would be good to get the information below into jira issue. If you could check the jira search below to see if there is another issue that is similar before creating a new one that would be great. If there is not another issue that is similar please add a new one. http://jira.jboss

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2008-01-18 Thread svadu
Would it make sense to create a jira issue for this? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4121427#4121427 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4121427 ___ jb

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2008-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unfortunately no - I have been working on interoperability with OC4J, Weblogic, and websphere. We will be reviewing priorities and planned tests in the next several weeks. I will carry on your concern. Rest assured that performance baselines and benchmarks are among the top of the priorities.

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2008-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, Do You have any news on this performance issue? We are currently using Seam 1.2 and have enough performance issues as it is, so an upgrade to Seam 2.0 is out of the question until we can be sure that the performance is significantly better than in version 1.2. Thanks! View the original po

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance issue with respect to Seam intercepts

2008-01-16 Thread billevans
Thank you so much!! I totally missed this in the docs!! This did the trick completely! View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4120690#4120690 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4120690

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance issue with respect to Seam intercepts

2008-01-16 Thread mmichalek
Have you tried @BypassInterceptors on your bean? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4120614#4120614 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4120614 ___ jboss-

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-12 Thread svadu
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote : These are surprising results for me as well. I will review them and compare with our own servers. | | I will be adding more tests and comparisons in regards to performance to the Seam project as time goes on. I appreciate your work on this. | Hi Jay, It wou

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-11 Thread gonzalad
Hi lowecg2004, Thanks for the tip. Just modified the jpa-no-a4j.ear application adding : anonymous wrote : But same results than before (looking at Seam code, debug="false" is the default value). So, for a constant throughput of 60tx/s, I have the following results : cpu used=40% elapsed(ms)=

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-11 Thread lowecg2004
The debug mode for Seam would have a significant impact on your stats. Have you set the debug mode for Seam to false? In components.xml, try adding: View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4111870#4111870 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/i

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-10 Thread gonzalad
Thank you very much for your concern Jay, I'm looking forward for any news you might have on this subject - whatever it would be (configuration change, code change or just different results than me). I'll also be very interested about your performance results between plain jsf and seam if you m

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
These are surprising results for me as well. I will review them and compare with our own servers. I will be adding more tests and comparisons in regards to performance to the Seam project as time goes on. I appreciate your work on this. Thanks, -Jay JBoss Seam QE. View the original post :

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-10 Thread gonzalad
So Monday Hello ! Here is some more information about the load tests we executed. If you want more information please tell me. Also, if you have an idea on how we can achieve betters results, I'm interested (of course !). Otherwise I think you can find some interesting comparative and instr

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-06 Thread gonzalad
I'll send more info on Monday then. Have a good week end and thanks for your help ! View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4111038#4111038 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4111038 ___

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-06 Thread svadu
"gonzalad" wrote : "svadu" wrote : I wouldn't be surprised if you don't get very high performance using microcontainer because you're not using full JEE capabilities of application server. | I really don't see how MC would explain performance gain between plain jsf and seam. But I've never use

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-06 Thread gonzalad
"svadu" wrote : I wouldn't be surprised if you don't get very high performance using microcontainer because you're not using full JEE capabilities of application server. I really don't see how MC would explain performance gain between plain jsf and seam. But I've never used MC. Could you explain

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-06 Thread gonzalad
"svadu" wrote : There is also somewhat older article from JBoss about Seam performance, might be interesting as reference information: http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/power/jbossworld_2006_june_jaffe.pdf Thanks for this review, I've already looked at it, but read it once more (in case of..

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-06 Thread svadu
I wouldn't be surprised if you don't get very high performance using microcontainer because you're not using full JEE capabilities of application server. But since you didn't use MC I can't comment on your numbers (I am not a performance tuning expert). Was the JSF (without Seam) application a

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-06 Thread svadu
There is also somewhat older article from JBoss about Seam performance, might be interesting as reference information: http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/power/jbossworld_2006_june_jaffe.pdf View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4111025#4111025 Rep

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-06 Thread gonzalad
Never in fact. Why ? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4111026#4111026 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4111026 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-use

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance vs plain JSF

2007-12-06 Thread svadu
Do your tests use JBoss microcontainer in all cases? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4111022#4111022 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4111022 ___ jb

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance

2007-10-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gus888 - I don't completely understand what you are after, but if you are in an long running conversation, then if you try to begin another you will get an exception unless you use join=true. If you always want to rejoin an existing conversation when you hit @Begin, then just add join=true. Or

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance

2007-10-17 Thread gus888
"rdewell" wrote : Our primary scope types are EVENT and SESSION. We were early adopters, and conversations just never worked quite right for us, so we didn't look back. Are there any others who made long-running conversations work in production environment? We also have a main problem on lon

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance

2007-10-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We strongly recommend scoped deployment, yes. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095324#4095324 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095324 ___ jboss-use

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance

2007-10-15 Thread Tobias
I'd like to second that. Getting that "There should only be one Seam phase listener per application" is not really helpful, since jboss-seam.jar should be placed in the EAR, not in the WAR. So with more than one SEAM application on the server you get that message because of the UCL. Or is Seam

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam Performance

2007-08-31 Thread jim.barrows
I'm not sure anyone can advise you. You don't specify what hardware you're running, how much bandwidth you have coming into the server, what you're doing with the upload. Heck what do you mean by big upload? 1M? 1G? 10G? 1T? What's the JBoss setup? There's a lot of questions to be answered b

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look at web-2.0.xsd View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4067176#4067176 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4067176 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-07-24 Thread JUnkie
@mgrouch: How do you cache JNDI lookups? I only have this in my components.xml. What would I have to add? Thanks! View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4067174#4067174 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=re

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-07-24 Thread mgrouch
How do I set ajax4jsf forceparser to false with Seam 2.0? There used to be ajax4jsf filter but not anymore. I want to disable ajax4jsf tidying up output on each request. With older Seam version I could do this... | + | + Ajax4jsf Filter | + ajax4jsf | + org.aj

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-25 Thread lowecg2004
What are your config values for Ajax4Jsf's 'forceparse' in web.xml and Seam 'debug' in components.xml: ? I believe that by default, every request is routed through a Tidy filter, even for non-Ajax pages. forceparse = false will ensure that only Ajax requests go through the tidy process. Mak

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-23 Thread stu2
"mgrouch" wrote : Use factories for stateless objects such as DAOs (so they are created once and not repeteadly created/destroyed). | | ... | Do not forget to cache JNDI lookups. | Again, you can certainly spend time doing this kind of stuff on the off chance that it will improve per

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-23 Thread stu2
I think you would want to run your app with a profiler and find out, empirically, where your app is spending its time. I think most commercial profilers have trial versions, and there are a variety of ways to do this. Your app design based on Seam/JSF is no doubt quite different than it was w

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-23 Thread mgrouch
Try using one transaction per page load (preferably with one EJB call in case of CMT). You might have to use wrapper transfer objects (which are considered not necessary nowadays) to wrap entities of different types. This made big difference in my case. Do not forget to cache JNDI lookups. See

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-23 Thread mgrouch
And more ideas: Native IO on app server, JRockit JVM. Give JVM higher memory settings. Use factories for stateless objects such as DAOs (so they are created once and not repeteadly created/destroyed). View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4057134#405

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-23 Thread mgrouch
And local EJB interfaces vs remote ones to reduce serialization. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4057131#4057131 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4057131 __

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-23 Thread mgrouch
Have you trieed Sun's JSF 1.2? Seam 1.3.0.A is pretty good and 1.3.0 should be out soon... You also should use facelets instead of JSPs. Tomahawk immediate="true" helps a bit too on forms where you do not need validation. Hibernate caching should be used. Reduce number of complicated EL expressio

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-23 Thread liudan2005
Thanks for your reply. I am using server side states saving, and we don't have hashmap lookup in our pages. We can't migrate to MyFaces 1.1.5 and Tomahawk 1.1.6 due to compatibility problem with seam 1.2.1. Also, MyFaces 1.1.5 doesn't work well with Seam 1.3. So basically we can't change our en

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-22 Thread mgrouch
And in your case you should migrate to MyFaces 1.1.5 and Tomahawk 1.1.6. MyFaces 1.1.3 is too broken anyway to be used in production. It would be interesting to compare Myfaces 1.1.5 performance vs Sun's JSF 1.2 (with server side state for both) and see who wins... View the original post : h

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-22 Thread mgrouch
Another thing: JSF doesn't (in base components) let you to define a variable on a page. So people quite often would write something like #{hashMapBean[key].prop} in many places on the page, which in fact leads to looking up hashMap many times + using reflection to access property. JSF also has

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance concerns

2007-06-22 Thread mgrouch
Can you change JSF setting to 'server' side state saving (in web.xml) and try the tests again? With myfaces and these suggestions http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Performance it had dramatic effect. I haven't tried with Sun's JSF 1.2, but client side state saving should have negative impact on

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance (NOT an issue)

2007-04-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting, thanks for the feedback! :-) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4036886#4036886 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4036886 ___ jboss-user ma

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance (NOT an issue)

2007-04-03 Thread petemuir
Nice to see Seam working well :) Made an interesting read! View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4034294#4034294 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4034294

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance

2007-01-16 Thread rdewell
We're using it on light test-level volume now to run about 40k / month in sales. This includes the management back-end to setup products / manage customers, etc. Performance is fine, but then we aren't using some of the potentially heavyweight Seam features like conversations. Our primary s

[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: Seam performance

2007-01-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On the second question, it almost never makes sense to have EJBs on a separate tier from the web application. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4002067#4002067 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&