Submit a bug report with a testcase on sourceforge please.
Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
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Like a charm. Thank you!
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Hi!
To log only my classes activity on the console at DEBUG
nd its sub-package...
I hope this can help you...
Gio
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Any ideas? I've trolled the forums with no answers. I can turn on DEBUG
for everything on the CONSOLE appender (and
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DEBUG
Any ideas? I’ve
trolled the forums with no answers. I can turn on DEBUG for everything on the
CONSOLE appender (and I see the debug messages for the bean below), but how do
I do for a single class. We use the
Any ideas? I’ve trolled the forums with no answers. I can turn on DEBUG
for everything on the CONSOLE appender (and I see the debug messages for the
bean below), but how do I do for a single class. We use the log4j.properties
file for our client and it works like a charm. I figured the xml
Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
It looks like the logging event contains just 1 line from the exception
trace instead of the whole trace!!!
Is this a bug or a feature?
Vlad
Hi all,
I activated SMTP appender to send errors by e-mail, but can't properly
configure it. Every time an Exception happens, I
Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
Scott M Stark wrote:
It depends on what is generating the stack trace. In order to get this
behavior there has to be a line by line emission of the stack trace
using System.err.println() for each line rather than one
System.err.println()
with the entire stack trace as a m
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> It depends on what is generating the stack trace. In order to get this
> behavior there has to be a line by line emission of the stack trace
> using System.err.println() for eac
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] log4j SMTP appender trouble
It looks like the logging event contains just 1 line from the exception
trace instead of the whole trace!!!
Is this a bug or a feature?
Vlad
Hi all,
I activated SMTP appender to send errors by e-mail, but can't properly
configure
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It looks like the logging event contains just 1 line from the exception
trace instead of the whole trace
?
Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
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It looks like the logging event contains just 1 line from the exception trace
instead of the whole trace!!!
Is this a bug or a feature?
Vlad
Hi all,
I activated SMTP appender to send errors by e-mail, but can't properly
configure it. Every time an Exception happens, I receive a lot of
e-mails
g your own category?
thanks again,
Brian
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] log4j SMTPAppender
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:29:01 +0100
Brian Styles wrote:
However I don't even see it trying to send the emails.
Brian Styles wrote:
However I don't even see it trying to send the emails. I just see the
error statement.
Just to make sure I have the right idea, does this mean that every time
i do a call such as
catch(SomeException se){
log.error("my error message", se)
}
Then this should cause an email to b
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] log4j SMTPAppender
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:14:44 +0100
Brian Styles wrote:
Hi all,
this is the third time I've asked this question. Hopefully someone w
Brian Styles wrote:
Hi all,
this is the third time I've asked this question. Hopefully someone will
know
this time.
Has anyone ever got the log4j SMTPAppender working so that emails are sent
out when an error occurs. If so, how --> it doesn't seem to work for me at
all.
It works for me. Perhaps
ember 10, 2003 10:43 AM
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hi,
At 16:31 10.12.2003, you wrote:
>Hello,
>I want to set up separate log files for each of the applications
>running within JBOSS. Currently everything gets written to
>server.log. How do I
hi,
At 16:31 10.12.2003, you wrote:
Hello,
I want to set up separate log files for each of the applications
running within JBOSS. Currently everything gets written to
server.log. How do I accomplish this? Any pointers is
highly appreciated.
i.e. define Your appender in log4j.xml:
log4J is one of the first service deployed in JBoss on startup. If you make
dependencies on the naming service and on connection factory, it will work
(but logging will be available at the end of the deployment). This is quite
unusual, but check the JBoss forum (Messaging / JMS): the same question
Hi Bob,
Logging is one of the first service configured, well before
JMS.
If you want to log to local jms, a better approach
would be to make your appender delegate to an MBean.
The MBean can then store the logging events until
its start[Service] method has initialised the connection
(with suitabl
or declare it transient
/L
tisdagen den 11 februari 2003 kl 13.28 skrev Brian Johnson:
You could null the variable containing the Logger before passivation,
then reinitialize it at activation.
Brian
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You could null the variable containing the Logger before passivation,
then reinitialize it at activation.
Brian
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 07:23 AM, Marek Lange wrote:
Hi all,
in JBoss 3.2.0RC1 I get the following stack trace when the container
tries to passivate a stateful session b
There appears to be nothing we can do about this as the vm appears to just go
to its native stdout handle. You'll have to wait until the java.util.logging api is
actually being used by the vm.
Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
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client/jboss-common-client.jar or
client/jbossall-client.jar
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client/jboss-common-client.jar or
client/jbossall-client.jar
Scott StarkChief Technology
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; From: Aaron Metzger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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>
>
> Sorry to glom onto someone else's thread, but I have a
> related quest
Sorry to glom onto someone else's thread, but I have a related question.
After setting up your own category, as below, everything works nicely
for my ejbs but Servlets under Jetty don't seem to see the elevated
priority level when I jack my "com.xxx." priority up to DEBUG. All
output from my
TED]] On Behalf Of linuxman
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Thanks first!
Yes, I noticed that in $JBOSS_HOME/server/default/conf, there is
log4j.xml, then you mean, I can use this default properti
Thanks first!
Yes, I noticed that in $JBOSS_HOME/server/default/conf, there is
log4j.xml, then you mean, I can use this default properties for my jboss
application deployed in $JBOSS_HOME/server/default/deploy?
But my test application run correctly, just say nothing:-), not log to
log/server.l
Hi,
You can configure your log4j.xml in JBOSS_HOME\conf
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hi,
I want to use
Title: Message
Search
www.mail-archive.com under the
jboss-dev list for a thread on this. Short answer, no.
James
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PMTo: 'Jboss-UserSubject: [JBoss-user] Log4j or
apa
Can you try with 3.2 or HEAD? I think I had fixed that: if log4j is present
it is used and otherwise logging info goes to /dev/null
Cheers,
Sacha
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Hello Hans,
I am using Jboss 3.0.1
I have made an example of a servlet that communicates with an EJB run
before.
The problem that you might be having is that JBoss and Tomcat are two stand
alone applications. Therefore, Tomcat is unable to see the context of the
deployed applications on JBoss (
That works perfectly. Now I can leave the
jboss/conf/tomcat/log4j.properties alone and encapsulate the app
specific log properties cleanly. I didn't use this code I used what
was mentioned in the log4 manual.
>I usually do something like this... put a log4j properties file in your
>application
Good point. H... Just a quick thought - what about writing your
own org.apache.log4.jspi.Filter that can somehow differentiate between
application deployements? That would give you a programatic hook that
is easily used from the log4j config file, however how the Filter could
differenti
I usually do something like this... put a log4j properties file in your
application e/j/war file, and somewhere in the initialization of the
application do this:
(sorry for the poor formatting)
private void init(){
ResourceBundle bundle = ResourceBundle.getBundle("com.kcp.sso.log4j");
>
>2) IMHO, what level gets logged and to where (file, rolling file,
>email, etc.) is very much a concern of the administrator of a site,
>moreso than the developer at that point.
>As an administrator with multiple apps to worry about, I would want
>centralized control over all logging of all d
1) Man, I can't wait till JBoss 3.2.3 comes out. It's going to kick
some serious butt.
2) IMHO, what level gets logged and to where (file, rolling file, email,
etc.) is very much a concern of the administrator of a site, moreso than
the developer at that point.
As an administrator with multip
Oops! I meant JBoss 2.4.2
>>I believe one of the changes from 2.2 to 2.4 was that 2.4 includes
>>log4j. What you're seeing is probably from a ClassCastException
>>where there are two copies of org.apache.log4j.Category - one in
>>your application and one in JBoss' lib/ext directory.
>
>Does th
>I believe one of the changes from 2.2 to 2.4 was that 2.4 includes
>log4j. What you're seeing is probably from a ClassCastException
>where there are two copies of org.apache.log4j.Category - one in
>your application and one in JBoss' lib/ext directory.
Does this mean that we are forced to use
I believe one of the changes from 2.2 to 2.4 was that 2.4 includes
log4j. What you're seeing is probably from a ClassCastException where
there are two copies of org.apache.log4j.Category - one in your
application and one in JBoss' lib/ext directory.
Try taking all log4j classes out of your app
About fifty lines from the bottom of the log4j.xml file is a bit that
looks like this:
uncomment it, and it should keep out anything under the 'INFO' level
(most of it, anyway).
Another thought, have you been changing the right file? make sure you
change the one matching the configuratio
First try different logging levels. You went from debug, which prints
everything, to error, which prints very little (only fatal produces less.)
Try info. Also, look at your log4j.properties. In a production
environment, I would suggest the DailyRollingFileAppender and
ConsoleAppender if you wa
Make sure you aren't picking up an old version
of jboss.jar from somewhere. That class is new with 2.4.0.
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Ah, well, that ties in perfectly with the conversation being held in this
thread . Thanks for the explanation.
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> Why does JBoss use its own classes when the ones that come with log4j work
> just as well? I was lear
tion works just
fine.
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> Try this:
>
> # Set the JBossCategoryFactory as the d
No, try it.
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> But this will print out jBoss messages at the info level, ne?
But this will print out jBoss messages at the info level, ne?
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Try this:
# Set the JBossCategoryFactory
-
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> Ok..
>
> This is all great, but I never got my original question answered.
>
> We are goin
O msgs for any categories under org.jboss.util
log4j.category.Default=INFO
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:54 AM
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David Jencks <[EM
David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> include
>
> import org.apache.log4j.Category;
>
>
> private Category log = Category.getInstance(MyClass.class);
> //Or use a string, maybe for jsps, haven't tried
>
>
> to log...
>
> log.info("my message");
>
> log.warn("HI");
> catch (Exception
ember 22, 2001 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] log4j system.out category
> include
>
> import org.apache.log4j.Category;
>
>
> private Category log = Category.getInstance(MyClass.class);
> //Or use a string, maybe for jsps, haven't t
about log4j.
> I have done a little reading but I wouldn't know how to
> tie into the jBoss logging.
>
> d.
>
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Are these your beans? If so, why not convert everything to log4j calls?
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Are these your beans? If so, why not convert everything to log4j calls?
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:52 PM
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> Is there a ca
Default is the category.
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Subject: [JBoss-user] log4j system.out category
> Is there a category specificly for stuff written to system.ou
Log4j is not JBoss code. You can find it at jakarta.apache.org. Thus, if
you ever wanted to use it on an app server that doesn't come with it, you
could just install it and use it.
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Exception is :
java.io.FileNotFoundException: Failed to find logj4 props:
C:/dev/etango/conf/log4j.properties
at java.lang.Throwable.(Throwable.java:96)
at java.lang.E
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>
> It could be in a jar or on a web server on the moon. Show your mlet entry
> and the resulting exception.
>
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> From: "Saint-Martin Cecile"
It could be in a jar or on a web server on the moon. Show your mlet entry
and the resulting exception.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:56 AM
Sub
Another thing I had in mind for the old jaws code was to go through and
make sure that errors get logged as errors, not debug. One place in
particular that that got changed in 2.4 was in JDBCCommand - the method
that executes just about any SQL was pretty much silently discarding the
SQLExcept
Change to use log4j. The JBoss interface will disappear in 3.0
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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 12:08 PM
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> As I modify the JBossCMP code should I change the l
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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 2:57 AM
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> Log4j is included in JBoss, and configuration file is log4j.propertie
Title: RE: [JBoss-user] Log4j & JBoss - HowTo?
Robert,
With log4j you can separate your log messages to a separate file. I have the following entry in my log4j.properties file which logs my stuff to a new file.
### The nhigh appender
log4j.appender.Nhigh=org.apache.log4j.FileAppe
Thanks Paul, Fred & Scott for your replies. If turning on the log4j service in JBoss is going to give me
is logging my stuff with JBoss' stuff, then I'll stick to what we've got. Think we want to keep them
separate anyways.
Robert Price
Title: RE: [JBoss-user] Log4j & JBoss - HowTo?
Robert,
I have attached two versions of jboss.conf, one is the original version that does not use the log4j.properties file and the other is my version that uses the log4j.properties file (the shorter one of the two).
You can then use
Enabling the jboss log4j service prints your app messages to the same logs as jboss
and lets you configure all messages consistently using the log4j mechanism. If you
continue to use your log4j adapter, the messages will share the jboss log(s).
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> I'm running JBoss 2.
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> I'm running JBoss 2.2.1 & Jetty 3.1 RC4.
>
> Right now we use our own object (called ServerLog), which implements
> log4j, to
go
away and have everything in jboss.jcml? I'm confused about what goes where.
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] log4j+JBoss
The log4j setup is in jboss.conf (to be uncomme
Add it as a feature request at sourceforge.net
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Subject: [JBoss-user] Log4j xml configuration in the log4j service mbean
Are there any plans to modify the Log4jService to use the DOMConfi
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Title: RE: [JBoss-user] log4j+JBoss
I have a grand total of about 18 hrs experience
with log4j, so put the following remarks in that context, but what you discuss
below doesn't put the power and flexibility to maximum use. Here is the
total of the statements needed in the EJB code:
i
The slow startup has been fixed in main. The problem is that the startup code was
looking for a log msg to determine if Hypersonic had started and it does
not receive this when log4j is used.
The only time I have seen the nul problem is when both the legacy logging and
log4j mbeans are configured
Title: RE: [JBoss-user] log4j+JBoss
You should be able to use log4j the same way as you do for any class. See the examples on the Log4J docs.
This is my code on a state-full session bean,
//*** IMPORT AS NEEDED ***//
import org.apache.log4j.Category;
import org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
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> "An enterprise bean must not use the java.io package to attempt to
> access files and directories in the file system.
> The file system APIs are not well-suited for business components
> to access data. Business components should use a resource mana
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 06:22:19PM -0600, Doug Ferguson wrote:
> I've seen somethings in the list about an integratred log4j
>
> Does anybody know the details.
>
> Do beans have access to the logging server or is this just for jBoss
> internals?
>
> If the log4j won't work for beans, does anyb
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:25 AM
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: RE: [JBoss-user] log4j
> System.out would not do.
> Also, if you follow the spec tightly, you shoul
From: Ferguson, Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:26 AM
To: 'Jay Walters '
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: RE: [JBoss-user] log4j
System.out would not do.
Also, if you follow the spec tightly, you should use System.out
it
> System.out would not do.
> Also, if you follow the spec tightly, you should use System.out
> it is not garanteed to work on all app servers.
> I need this for monitoring and trending.
> It has to go to disc somehow, which is agains the ejb spec.
> Unless I implement some kind of logging server.
current plan is just to log to the db.
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From: Jay Walters
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Sent: 3/27/01 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: RE: [JBoss-user] log4j
We also use Log4j in our beans and it works uniformly across several app
servers - including our favorite JBoss
.
Kevin
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 9:53 PM
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Not sure what you mean by "integrated log4j". I use log4j in my beans
and th
Not sure what you mean by "integrated log4j". I use log4j in my beans
and they seem to work in jBoss.
Victor
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Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:22 pm
Subject: [JBoss-user] log4j
> I've seen somethings in the list about an integ
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