[JDEV] (no subject)

2001-04-11 Thread Girish
Hi all Hey i wanna know whether there is any jabber client that supports zero authentication. Since i have tried with jabber client installed on my m/c but that asks always u to enter your username and password. But Zero Knowledge authentication requires u to only send your username

Re: [JDEV] Relationship with .NET?

2001-04-11 Thread Oliver George
> > >>> I suggest if we as an industry are going to back anything we back SOAP >>> and XML and let .NET .DIE >> >> >> Wow, I can honestly say I've never heard such an ignorant statement in >> my life. Let me put the statement in perspective for people who are not up >> to par with .NET.. >>

[JDEV] (no subject)

2001-04-11 Thread Girish
Hi all Actually i wanna ask when we register a user then that info is stored on the server in normal text form which can be misused so i  wanted some way of registering the user so that we can store passwords in encrypted format on the server thanxGirish

[JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread David Bovill
Interesting post (thanks): > I suggest that we take this to the 'security' Jabber mailing list. Is there one - what's the address? Wouldn't the solution be that all servers and transports have to do some Public Key based authentication on first connection? Personally I'm fairly new to messagin

Re: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Thomas Parslow (PatRat)
> Is there one - what's the address? > > Wouldn't the solution be that all servers and transports have to do some > Public Key based authentication on first connection? > > Personally I'm fairly new to messaging and became interested more from the > live XML data communications face of Jabber, and

RE: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Todd Bradley
> What I would recommend if you want to protect your users from messages > of this type is blocking all messages from people not on the roster, > this should be fairly watertight... Maybe things could be setup so > that all messages received from users not on the roster are forwarded > to another

RE: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Duncan, Paul
Uhm... did I mention .. http://www.mysoftware.com/bannerads/buy.jpg http://www.mysoftware.com/bannerads/default.htm AE9323DEFGH123 - Duncan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Bradley Sent: Wednesday, April 11,

RE: [JDEV] Relationship with .NET?

2001-04-11 Thread Colin Madere
Title: RE: [JDEV] Relationship with .NET? Can you guys please take this elsewhere unless you are going to give explicit examples of how Jabber development will relate to .NET. Thanks P.S. Just because a company with a lot of money backs something, doesn't mean it is great.  > -Origin

Re: [JDEV] Relationship with .NET?

2001-04-11 Thread Thomas Charron
RE: [JDEV] Relationship with .NET?From: Colin Madere Subject: RE: [JDEV] Relationship with .NET? Can you guys please take this elsewhere unless you are going to give explicit examples of how Jabber development will relate to .NET. Thanks Err, I believe I did earlier. P.S. Just because a comp

RE: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Neeme Praks
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:05 PM > > However, even though spam isn't a problem yet on the > Jabber network, there will come a day when it is does > become a problem. Once there are enough users of > Jabb

RE: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread John Hebert
Agreed. Spam doesn't have to be a problem with jabber or any IM that allows one to reject messages or even subscription requests from unknowns. 4/11/01 10:43:40 PM, "Neeme Praks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On >> Se

Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Thomas Parslow (PatRat)
>> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:05 PM >> >> However, even though spam isn't a problem yet on the >> Jabber network, there will come a day when it is does >> become a problem. Once there are enough users of

Re: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Oliver Wing
> Part of the problem is that ICQ numbers are assigned sequentially, > this is how they can easily target new accounts (the reason that you > get loads of e-mails requesting you credit card number when you sign up > for compuserve). I don't get any SPAM. iCQ (offical client that is) has several o

Re: [JDEV] voice chat ...

2001-04-11 Thread Jens Alfke
On Tuesday, April 10, 2001, at 06:38 PM, dlb wrote: is it http://www.tellme.com ? they use voiceXML But that doesn't appear to be voice chat, rather voice recognition. Are there open standards for voice-over-IP, as there are for video-over-IP (H.263)? I would guess that all that's necessary i

Re: [JDEV] How to check users presence?

2001-04-11 Thread Jens Alfke
On Tuesday, April 10, 2001, at 08:57 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Are you subscribed to this person's presence (i.e., are you in the other person's roster with a subscription type of 'from' or 'both')? You need to be in order for the probe to work. But the client shouldn't need to send a probe a

Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Jens Alfke
On Wednesday, April 11, 2001, at 09:02 AM, Thomas Parslow (PatRat) wrote: why do you think it will become an issue if the user itself is careful enough? It definitely isn't easy to guess the account names on Jabber, as it is the case with ICQ. But that relies on every user knowing what they're do

Re: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread David Waite
Actually, I like the thought of rate-limiting. If they can only send two subscription requests per minute, they would be discouraged from trying to bulk-subscribe. Also, if they could only resolve two search matches per minute, they would be discouraged from walking the list and bulk-messaging.

Re: [JDEV] (no subject)

2001-04-11 Thread Kerem HADIMLI
Uhm, well.. storing the password in server will cause you a trouble; you'll need to login to the server in order to learn the password :)) Regards, Kerem HADIMLI > Girish wrote: > > Hi all > Actually i wanna ask when we register a user then that info > is stored on the server i

[JDEV] Test Suite released!

2001-04-11 Thread Dustin Puryear
Ok, SourceForge is way too slow. I just decided to lose my existing history and import directly into CVS. It is now up and running. You can download via anonymous access using: $ cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/jabbertest login $ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/jabbertest

Re: [JDEV] voice chat ...

2001-04-11 Thread Thomas Charron
From: Jens Alfke Subject: Re: [JDEV] voice chat ... is it http://www.tellme.com ? they use voiceXML But that doesn't appear to be voice chat, rather voice recognition. Close, but more along the lines of interactive voice response. VoiceXML is method to provide computer telephony scripting..

Re: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread David Bovill
Ah, but have you tried downloading and registering an new ICQ account? Sure when you have set it up it's OK, but as soon as you have registered a new account within a few seconds you get spam'd! > From: "Oliver Wing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:16

Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread David Bovill
Interesting, I think I'd like to implement something along these lines, but needs pinning down... > One big vague architectural solution is to establish some kind of "web > of trust" where transitive buddyhood ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is unknown to me but > is on one of my buddy's buddy lists) is used

Re: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Oliver Wing
> Ah, but have you tried downloading and registering an new ICQ account? Sure > when you have set it up it's OK, but as soon as you have registered a new > account within a few seconds you get spam'd! Not wanting to turn this list into a spam discussion, but I have a very low iCQ number, and you'

Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Thomas Parslow (PatRat)
> Actually, I like the thought of rate-limiting. If they can only send two >subscription requests per minute, they would be discouraged from trying to >bulk-subscribe. Also, if they could only resolve > two search matches per minute, they would be discouraged from walking the list and >bulk-mes

[JDEV] segfault in libpth on 1.4.1

2001-04-11 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
After an upgrade to 1.4.1, things were mostly quiet until today, when jabberd took a very ungraceful dive, twice. All I found in the logs were: @40003ad49bfc2c7752dc aim_tx_new: ERROR: no connection specified @40003ad49bfd0ad24d44 unknown capability! @40003ad49bfd0adae094 unknown ca

Re: [JDEV] Trouble with local JUD

2001-04-11 Thread DJ Adams
Hi Ørjan In case you are still struggling (I don't see any further msgs in this thread) - I'll put in my two pence silly things out of the way first: are you sure the stuff isn't between XML comments () so that the jabberd isn't able to find the instance definition? you refer to the 1.4 howto

Re: [JDEV] How to check users presence?

2001-04-11 Thread DJ Adams
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:21:11AM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: > > But the client shouldn't need to send a probe at all. The server will s/shouldn't need/ought not/ probe is for servers; clients shouldn't be doing them... > send you elements from your subscribed buddies right after > you log

Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Thomas Parslow (PatRat)
>> Ah, but have you tried downloading and registering an new ICQ account? > Sure >> when you have set it up it's OK, but as soon as you have registered a new >> account within a few seconds you get spam'd! > > Not wanting to turn this list into a spam discussion, but I have a very low > iCQ number

Re: [JDEV] Relationship with .NET?

2001-04-11 Thread Jared Rhine
[Citation date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:49:35 +1000] > Oliver == Oliver George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oliver> Sorry for the conspiricy theory: i've no doubt .NET will Oliver> be great else MS wouldn't back it so hard. but tell us Oliver> why. I'll second the request to take the .NET d

Re: [JDEV] Trouble with local JUD

2001-04-11 Thread David Waite
Sorry, I helped Ørjan out with his problem. The first problem was using the server name instead of another unique name (like 'jud.servername') The second problem was that there is a block to add to the jsm block for reported services for browse and agents requests, and a block for loading and

Re: [JDEV] Trouble with local JUD

2001-04-11 Thread DJ Adams
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 12:28:57PM -0600, David Waite wrote: > Sorry, I helped Ørjan out with his problem. > > The first problem was using the server name instead of another unique name > (like 'jud.servername') > > The second problem was that there is a block to add to the jsm > block for repo

RE: Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Todd Bradley
> How about having a way for a client to report a message as spam, it > could send back an with the message content and sender, then if > one user or message is reported many times as spam it will start to be > blocked, have to be thought out well so as to not allow loop holes for > abuse. I lik

Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

2001-04-11 Thread Jens Alfke
On Wednesday, April 11, 2001, at 01:17 PM, Todd Bradley wrote: I like the idea. But what's to stop that user from just creating a new JID? We might just see a lot of one-time JIDs pop up as happens with email spam now. If Jabber really takes off, someone will create a special Jabber server for

[JDEV] help

2001-04-11 Thread Dillip Kumar Swain
Title: RE: help HI SirI am facing some problem with xdb_sql.as per your advice I am developing a mysql module in c. to intigrate with Jabber Server 1.2/1.4 but when I am going to configure it..the problem islike that..but I am sure about path of MysqlLibrary...is currect...   but