[JDEV] Second call for compliance committee members

2002-10-23 Thread Iain Shigeoka
Hello folks, Things got off to a slow start in the compliance committee so I'm sending out a second call for participation. If you're interested in serving on the committee or just helping out, please sign up for the compliance@ mailing list (http://www.jabber.org/about/lists.php). Our first task

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Justin Kirby
Am I getting year old mail ?? We *have* jeps that cover this stuff. JOBS, JID streams... head on over to http://www.jabber.org There is nothing illegal or unethical about me creating a document and distributing it to people; file transfer. The RIAA argument is mute, plain and simple. On Wed, 20

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread dlb
Richard's right to be concerned about potential liability in this area. The EFF has prepared a whitepaper on p2p file sharing that might be useful . http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/20010227_p2p_copyright_white_paper.html check out the section - "Lessons and Guidelines for P2P Developers" for their advi

[JDEV] JabberCE 1.0

2002-10-23 Thread Ed Suarez
I downloaded the program and I can not get any text on the chat window, it sends and recieves but no text.  Can you provide some suggestions? Here are some pictures.  By the way, the program does not fit on the screen, some buttons are too short. <><><>

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Richard Dobson
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 02:39 pm, Mattias Campe wrote: Richard Dobson wrote: [...] > This is something that needs to go past the lawyers first so that they can at least supply some legalese to put on the JEP page to indemnify the JSF from any legal repercussions (hopefully passing

[JDEV] Please welcome...

2002-10-23 Thread Ryan Eatmon
Jerome Thomas Muldowney He entered into the world at 6:48am CDT. May he always be proud to be a Texan and never leave this great state (except maybe college or on vacation) -- Ryan Eatmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

[JDEV] jabberd and SSL - getting: "SSL accept without an IP" error

2002-10-23 Thread Vladimir Collak
I compiled jabberd with SSL. The server starts fine, but when I access the 5223 port, the server spits-out these errors. I get at least 20 of them per second. ...and of course, the clients can't login via SSL Any ideas? Thank you, Vladimir Wed Oct 23 16:51:29 2002 mio.c:607 mio while loop top

[JDEV] Can jabber ask questions (i.e. polling)?

2002-10-23 Thread Matt Raible
Hello Developers, We are using Jabber as a way for student's to communicate while watching a live streaming video. We are wondering if it's possible to add a "polling function" to our IM sessions where a moderator could ask a question of everyone in an IM session (chat room) and participants coul

Re: [JDEV] RFC: cross-domain Flash support

2002-10-23 Thread dlb
Hi Rob; Here's a technote explaining the procedure http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/load_xdomain.htm this is essentially what we'd be doing along with establishing a common definition of the shim's methods and interface. I've adapted the mechanism to the FML demo client and c

Re: [JDEV] RFC: cross-domain Flash support

2002-10-23 Thread Rob Davis
Out of interest how are you loading the shim across domains? As far as I'm aware, not only does the Flash player not allow socket connections across domains, but it also prevents the loading of data or SWFs. By the way, has anyone had any luck with running Jabber on multiple ports, so that a Flas

RE: [JDEV] Question about jabber:iq:auth packets and XDB

2002-10-23 Thread Joe Breeden
Title: Question about jabber:iq:auth packets and XDB All,   I sent this message in the other day and have since spent some time on the problem and have narrowed down to one line of code in mod_auth_plain.c that could be changed to help me with my need and probably not break any other implemen

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread admin
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Mattias Campe wrote: >> All of these are nice ideas, but I think jabber should stay focused on >> messaging. While simple 1:1 file transfer can be seen as some special >> form of sending a message (it's just a huge binary message), full-scale >> filesharing should (IMHO) be ha

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Jan Niehusmann
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:33:11PM +0200, Mattias Campe wrote: > like I already said, lots of my friends don't know how to set up an ftp > server, but they do know how to activate file sharing with ICQ. Why is > it much simpeler, well: > - they don't have to worry that the other part has to know

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Kriggs
My own "honest opinion" is that file transfer should be implemented if we want Jabber to be a the perfect alternative to any of the current IMs out there. It's not because we start working on file transfer that we can't work on other parts as well. I suggest that we create the protocol now, and

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Mattias Campe
Richard Dobson wrote: [...] > This is something that needs to go past the lawyers first so that they can at least supply some legalese to put on the JEP page to indemnify the JSF from any legal repercussions (hopefully passing the legal burden onto the end user where it should be). A disavantage

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Mattias Campe
Jan Niehusmann wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 10:46:01AM +0200, Mattias Campe wrote: File transfer: [...] File sharing: [...] All of these are nice ideas, but I think jabber should stay focused on messaging. While simple 1:1 file transfer can be seen as some special form of sending a mess

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Jan Niehusmann
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 10:46:01AM +0200, Mattias Campe wrote: > File transfer: [...] > File sharing: [...] All of these are nice ideas, but I think jabber should stay focused on messaging. While simple 1:1 file transfer can be seen as some special form of sending a message (it's just a huge binar

Re: [JDEV] J-day?

2002-10-23 Thread Mattias Campe
Benoit Orihuela wrote: hi, 1) Do you like this idea of having a J-day? aren't the goals of this J-day already covered by the annual jabberconfs ? Maybe for the developers (but I don't know much about those annual jabberconfs :( ), but I don't think for end-users. Eg. take the "world day o

[JDEV] (no subject)

2002-10-23 Thread nitin dubey
hello krishnan at present how much i know jabber is not offering blocking a user. i want to impliment this. i have seen some documents on jabber site that using jabber:iq:privacy site - http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0016.html i want to impliment this but i dont know where to add name space fo

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Richard Dobson
> I believe the idea would be to share files only with people in a user's > personal roster. Not filesharing on a super-massive scale like some of > the P2P applications do right now. Think of it more like the shares > files of your favourite OS. Yes I know, but there is still the AIMster legal

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Sebastiaan 'CBAS' Deckers
Richard Dobson wrote: The only problem with adding these file sharing features (people being able to download files from someone that were not specifically sent to them) is that we move into the firing line of the RIAA etc, its nice for users but could be dangerous for us developers and jabber

Re: [JDEV] J-day?

2002-10-23 Thread Benoit Orihuela
hi, > 1) Do you like this idea of having a J-day? aren't the goals of this J-day already covered by the annual jabberconfs ? anyway, jabber can't have too much publicity so yeah, this can be a good idea. > 2) What would be the perfect day for J-day? > - birth of the Jabber Software Foundation >

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Richard Dobson
The only problem with adding these file sharing features (people being able to download files from someone that were not specifically sent to them) is that we move into the firing line of the RIAA etc, its nice for users but could be dangerous for us developers and jabber as a whole, before going d

Re: [JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Mattias Campe
> File sharing: > - > A lot of my friends wouldn't know how to set up an ftp-server, but a lot > of them use ICQ to share files with their contactlist. For the moment I > don't like ICQ's file sharing (apart from the fact that I don't like > ICQ), because it seems to lack some feature

Re: [JDEV] JID Resources

2002-10-23 Thread Justin Karneges
Groupchat ? :) On Wednesday 23 October 2002 07:16 am, Darren McVean wrote: > HI, > I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to send a message to a > JID ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and have that same message sent to all resources for that > JID. > > for example, > > Message sent to [EMAIL PROTECT

[JDEV] Possibilities of the roster = ?

2002-10-23 Thread Mattias Campe
Hi, when I did my post about "file sharing" I started to wonder what the possibilities of the roster are... Does the roster as it is now provides a flexible, extensible way of hiding services for certain users? As I don't understand this question myself ;), I'll try to give some examples: In the

[JDEV] File transfer and file sharing: view of end-user

2002-10-23 Thread Mattias Campe
Hi, although I don't have time to carefully read JEP-0052 about file transfer, maybe I can give my end-user view on file transfer and file sharing. I hope it helps, if not, then I've put ideas in order for myself ;). File transfer: -- - ability to set speed of download/upload - resum

[JDEV] J-day?

2002-10-23 Thread Mattias Campe
I (as well as a lot of others) think that Jabber lacks a lot of publicity (at least to end users). I personally think that there are a lot of "potentials" out there, interested in the principle of an open IM-system, but not knowing of it existence... Now I thought that a sort of J-day could solve

[JDEV] JID Resources

2002-10-23 Thread Darren McVean
HI, I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to send a message to a JID ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and have that same message sent to all resources for that JID. for example, Message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are 5 Online resources for this account: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/darren [EMAIL PROTE