RE: [jdev] Session request/Resource bind after Digest MD5 auth ..

2004-11-12 Thread JD Conley
You're sending a "Start IM Session" request instead of a resource bind request. You need to bind your resource first then you can start your session. You need another round trip. :) XMPP-IM states this is required but doesn't show you the XML in an example. Perhaps this should be annotated mo

[jdev] Session request/Resource bind after Digest MD5 auth ..

2004-11-12 Thread Scott Mikolaitis
I'm currently home growing a client in Java and have somehow managed to connect, authenticate using DIGEST-MD5. In reading RFC's 3921 and 3920 the XMPP Core draft I have ( page 36 ) says "Client must send a new stream header to the server, to which the server must respond with.. a list of availabl

Re: [jdev] Re: TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread David Waite
I doubt someone arguing that ssh is more widely used (either in terms of traffic or in terms of users) than SSL/TLS, or even than just the https usage of SSL/TLS, would be taken very seriously. If Jabber servers had started with S2S defaulting to SSL, then trusted issuers would be the only way to

[jdev] Re: TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread Alex Mauer
Neil Stevens wrote: > You can't know if there's a man-in-the-middle in progress when you first > connect, but if you're remembering certificate and someone tries one after > a while, you will be able to detect that. And even if there is a mitm the first time, you should notice if/when it ends. A

[jdev] Re: TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Marquard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > STARTTLS + Dialback has now been implemented in both jabberd1.4 (in CVS) > and jabberd2 (a patch for s2s), so I think STARTTLS + Dialback should be > encouraged as the basic minimum for s2s traffic, and when there's

[jdev] Re: TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neil Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 11 November 2004 05:06 pm, Justin Karneges wrote: > > While JD's comments sum this up nicely, I just want to reiterate loudly > > that self-signed certificate

[jdev] Re: TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > > http://web.amessage.info/news/article/2981 asserts that one cannot use > > self-signed certs with TLS for securing XMPP streams. > > Quote: "The problem is, that XMPP is not very clear

[jdev] Re: GAIM-Integrated Filesharing

2004-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > your projects about GAIM Filesharing sounds great. The poster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has been given fair warning by the list admin. The list admin has decided that all posts from this person will now be moderated. I also declare

RE: [jdev] Re: TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread JD Conley
> From: Matthias Wimmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 5:07 AM > > Hi Justin! > > Justin Karneges schrieb am 2004-11-11 22:07:54: > > And now that I think about it, the whole "use dialback for the first > > connection, SASL EXTERNAL for all after" concept would be a g

[jdev] Fwd: JabberApplet

2004-11-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
This was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED], so I'm forwarding it on. The ownership of the Jabber Applet code seems a bit unclear -- is there a current maintainer for this project? /psa Begin forwarded message: From: "David D. Cloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: November 12,

Re: [jdev] Re: TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread Matthias Wimmer
Hi Justin! Justin Karneges schrieb am 2004-11-11 22:07:54: > And now that I think about it, the whole "use dialback for the first > connection, SASL EXTERNAL for all after" concept would be a good way to > optimize s2s. Not sure ... there are valid reasons to change your s2s certificate: - Key

Re: [jdev] Re: TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread Matthias Wimmer
Hi Peter! Peter Saint-Andre schrieb am 2004-11-11 17:53:30: > > Allowing self signed (or otherwise untrusted) certs with STARTTLS + > > EXTERNAL is opening yourself up for a serious security breach. > Well, that's another story. But that claim on the URL I provided was > that it is technically

[jdev] Re: GAIM-Integrated Filesharing

2004-11-12 Thread Euseval
Hi, your projects about GAIM Filesharing sounds great. http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=24366 http://downhillbattle.org/labs/gaim_filesharing_plugin/ Would be good, if you could create a real project on SF.net and then make a link to this on your homepage. The GAIM People d

Re: [jdev] TLS and self-signed certs

2004-11-12 Thread maqi
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > http://web.amessage.info/news/article/2981 asserts that one cannot use > self-signed certs with TLS for securing XMPP streams. Quote: "The problem is, that XMPP is not very clear about the usage of STARTTLS on dialback-connections". In the following