13 maj 2005 kl. 04.32 skrev Hal Rottenberg:
Hi,
I think having a certification of libraries and servers makes a lot
of sense.
Doing it for clients I think will only take a lot of time and not
worth the effort. It's just not very interesting information for the
user, but for a user of a
13 maj 2005 kl. 09.08 skrev Mikael Hallendal:
Hi again,
I think that if we have some kind of review process for clients the
only thing it should do is to decide whether the client is listed
on the jabber.org web page or not.
Could also be a good idea to just list one preferred client for
I think you do have point here.
For starting jabber/xmpp user it is very difficult to choice a client.
But just to show the top client per OS, is not a fair option to all the
developers out there.
So a nice certification of jabber/xmpp client would be a nice option. This
will give potential users
Hi dear developers,
IMHO will be allright have the list of the clients sorted by rank column.
Users will vote/rank the favorite client...probably is a fair method.
Kind regards,
Roberto
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By Mikael Hallendal:
Could also be a good idea to just list one preferred client for each
OS though this is bound to create discussions. [...]
It is true that users who hit jabber.org for the first time need
guidance. Most want a single simple download link. On the other hand
offering only one
Could also be a good idea to just list one preferred client for each
OS though this is bound to create discussions. [...]
It is true that users who hit jabber.org for the first time need
guidance. Most want a single simple download link. On the other hand
offering only one or two clients is
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 09:12, schreef Mikael Hallendal:
13 maj 2005 kl. 09.08 skrev Mikael Hallendal:
Hi again,
I think that if we have some kind of review process for clients the
only thing it should do is to decide whether the client is listed
on the jabber.org web page or not.
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 14:31, schreef Roberto Della Pasqua:
Hi dear developers,
IMHO will be allright have the list of the clients sorted by rank column.
Users will vote/rank the favorite client...probably is a fair method.
The disadvantages of this method are that:
1) People can cheat and
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 16:25, schreef Daniel Henninger:
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As a client developer, I must say that I wouldn't be insulted or find it
unfair if there was a chosen client (that was not mine). =) Take gaim
for example, lots of people live and breath by gaim, but if you go to
AIM's site you
You are allright, I agree with you :)
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Oggetto: Re: R: [jdev] XMPP Certification Opinion Poll
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 14:31, schreef
Hey all,
The RFC3920 says that The RECOMMENDED port for connections between servers
is 5269. Should the same port (eg. 5269) be used for TLS s2s communication
and Server Dialback? When doing Server Dialback, which port should the
Receiving Server connect to for establishing a connection to
I think certification is a good idea. Having a suite of tools for
developers to see how their work would comply with standards would
also be great.
One thing I would find most usefull is a list of JEP recomendations
promoted by the JSF for the implementation of the various generic/
obvious
Gaston Dombiak wrote:
Hey all,
The RFC3920 says that The RECOMMENDED port for connections between servers
is 5269. Should the same port (eg. 5269) be used for TLS s2s communication
and Server Dialback?
Yes, because TLS negotiation takes place after the initial s2s stream is
established.
When
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One thing I would find most usefull is a list of JEP recomendations
promoted by the JSF for the implementation of the various
generic/obvious IM features that most XMPP clients have, even if the
JEPs are considered experimental or even still in the
This is my long post that I promised to send in another post in this thread.
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 04:32, schreef Hal Rottenberg:
We're having quite a debate on the JSF Members list today.
(http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/) The main topic is
certification of open-source Jabber
What would you use for Avatars now ? JEP-0084 ? Won't scale. Why
didn't Apple went for this on iChat and decided to store the avatar
on the user's vcard-tmp ?
I guess the certification will cover and solve most of the problem
anyway.
Celso.
On May 13, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Kevin Smith wrote:
1) Certification.
2) Official JSF Projects.
I vote for another system:
3) Supported JSF Projects. This is a mix of 1) and 2), but it looks mostly
like 2). The big advantage of this system, is that it can handle many
projects, with less JSF efforts.
Sorry but your suggestion does not sound like
Thanks Stephen for the quick reply.
-- Gato
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Gaston Dombiak wrote:
Hey all,
The RFC3920 says that The RECOMMENDED port for connections between
servers is 5269. Should the same port (eg. 5269) be used for TLS s2s
On 5/13/05, Heiner Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is true that users who hit jabber.org for the first time need
guidance. Most want a single simple download link. On the other hand
offering only one or two clients is unfair for the other developers.
Therefore we have a long list with the box
On 5/13/05, Richard Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) Certification.
2) Official JSF Projects.
I vote for another system:
3) Supported JSF Projects. This is a mix of 1) and 2), but it looks mostly
like 2). The big advantage of this system, is that it can handle many
projects, with
On 5/13/05, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Users will vote/rank the favorite client...probably is a fair method.
The disadvantages of this method are that:
1) People can cheat and so influence the ranking.
2) It will make it more difficult for new innovative Jabber clients to
Hi everybody.
I've decided to release PyMSNt 0.9.3
http://msn-transport.jabberstudio.org to download, and read on for
details.
It's been running very nicely on SAPO (http://messenger.sapo.pt)
servers for a week or so now, so I figure it should be fine for
everybody else too :)
Anyway, changes
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