[jdev] Google Androïd SDK not XMPP compliant ?

2008-02-14 Thread biojab biojab
http://code.google.com/android/migrating/m3-to-m5/m5-api-changes.html#gtalk

Re: [jdev] Google Androïd SDK not XMPP compliant ?

2008-02-14 Thread Lee Dryburgh
I think this just stands to open the whole binary encoded debate once again. I'm too much of a coward to be caught in the crossfire so I will duck out and not give my opinion. Google's group manager of wireless will be keynoting and then on a panel the next day promoting Android vs other mobile

Re: [jdev] Google Androïd SDK not XMPP compliant ?

2008-02-14 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 09:55 +0100, biojab biojab wrote: http://code.google.com/android/migrating/m3-to-m5/m5-api-changes.html#gtalk Well, there really is a very valid point in not wanting to implement standard XMPP for mobile devices. While XML-based communication is easy to work with, it is

[jdev] Getting the number of occupants in MUCs

2008-02-14 Thread Juha Mynttinen
What would be the preferred way of getting the list of MUCs in a server and the number of occupants in each MUC (using XMPP client)? I guess XEP-0045 doesn't directly support this functionality? I only found in the specification that you can get a list of all MUCs using XEP-0045 and then for each

Re: [jdev] Getting the number of occupants in MUCs

2008-02-14 Thread Norman Rasmussen
extended disco info has muc#roominfo_occupants (Number of occupants) On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Juha Mynttinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be the preferred way of getting the list of MUCs in a server and the number of occupants in each MUC (using XMPP client)? I guess XEP-0045

Re: [jdev] Google Androïd SDK not XMPP compliant ?

2008-02-14 Thread Fabio Forno
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Lee Dryburgh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this just stands to open the whole binary encoded debate once again. I'm too much of a coward to be caught in the crossfire so I will duck out and not give my opinion. Once I was one of those baldly standing for

Re: [jdev] Google Androïd SDK not XMPP compliant ?

2008-02-14 Thread Alexander Gnauck
Alex Malinovich schrieb: ... it is really terribly inefficient. What we really need to do is establish a STANDARD binary protocol for transmitting XMPP information. Essentially a binary-encoding standard for XMPP. Then as long as servers support that extension, clients will remain unaffected.

Re: [jdev] Getting the number of occupants in MUCs

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
That is: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#example-8 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:03:18PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote: extended disco info has muc#roominfo_occupants (Number of occupants) On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Juha Mynttinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be

Re: [jdev] Google Androïd SDK not XMPP compliant ?

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
biojab biojab wrote: http://code.google.com/android/migrating/m3-to-m5/m5-api-changes.html#gtalk First of all, don't panic. As I understand it from one of the Android team members, they have been using XMPP communications (sent only via the Google Talk service) as a way for developers to debug

Re: [jdev] February 79% OFF

2008-02-14 Thread Sean Gilbertson
I don't think Cialis Soft is supported by XMPP any more. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:00 PM, jdev@jabber.org wrote: -- Courage in an untrained mind leads to cruelty, and in a trained mind it leads to hope and compassion. ~ P.J. Saher

Re: [jdev] February 79% OFF

2008-02-14 Thread Pedro Melo
Maybe we could paint the XML Binary proposal in blue. Then we could joke about the 79% OFF subject in a on-topic way. Best regards, On Feb 14, 2008, at 9:37 PM, Sean Gilbertson wrote: I don't think Cialis Soft is supported by XMPP any more. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:00 PM, jdev@jabber.org

[jdev] Looking for a J2ME implementation with STARTTLS support

2008-02-14 Thread Ernest Nova
It appears that few (none?) of the out of box J2ME bits on mobile devices support switching of an previously established un-encrypted session to TLS via the STARTTLS sequence ( i.e Connections that start un-encrypted, then send STARTTLS to become encrypted ) Any one have pointers to a library

Re: [jdev] Looking for a J2ME implementation with STARTTLS support

2008-02-14 Thread Fabio Forno
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Ernest Nova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that few (none?) of the out of box J2ME bits on mobile devices support switching of an previously established un-encrypted session to TLS via the STARTTLS sequence ( i.e Connections that start un-encrypted,

Re: [jdev] a few more privacy questions

2008-02-14 Thread tjabber
More questions have popped up from reading the privacy extension doc at http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0016.html. When a client updates a privacy list, it must include all of the desired items (i.e., not a delta). My reading of this is when I want to allow or deny a single person I have