Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Pedro Melo
On Mar 10, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Nathan Fritz wrote: XMPP sucks because the namespaces are incredibly inconsistent, XML stream resets suck, and Jingle breaks all of the elegant simplicity (likely necessarily). Man, I feel guilty for writing that. XDA meeting really. Hi, my name is Pedro

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Remko Tronçon
OK, I came up with a theme for this meeting: Why I Hate XMPP. :) The idea of a groupchat sounds pretty neat, but I'm a bit worried about the anarchy that the subject entails. Looking at the thread, it feels like everybody will just be bringing up his/her personal gripes about XMPP, all of which

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Dirk Meyer
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I just started looking at Sphinx, which is used to produce documentation for Python and lots of other projects: http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ It looks intriguing to me. We started using it for Freevo some weeks ago and we like it. It is a very good documentation system.

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Brett Zamir
On 3/10/2009 4:37 PM, Norman Rasmussen wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com mailto:bret...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice idea... I'd like to add lack of full XML and namespace support (ok, maybe not XML with notations, external DTDs, etc., but processing

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Norman Rasmussen
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Brett Zamir bret...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, yes, but there are issues such as these in the specs: 1) RFC3920bis-09: for historical reasons MAY accept only the 'stream:' prefix 2) RFC3921bis-08: The show/ element MUST NOT possess any attributes. (also with

Re: [jdev] Default SOCKS5 proxy

2009-03-10 Thread Pedro Melo
On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 3/9/09 9:05 AM, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: Am 09.03.2009 um 13:28 schrieb Guillaume Desmottes: proxy.jabber.org doesn't seem to work. It has been removed a while ago. I'm hoping to bring that back soon. :) Yeah, I remember seeing

Re: [jdev] Default SOCKS5 proxy

2009-03-10 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/10/09 6:02 AM, Pedro Melo wrote: On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 3/9/09 9:05 AM, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: Am 09.03.2009 um 13:28 schrieb Guillaume Desmottes: proxy.jabber.org doesn't seem to work. It has been removed a while ago. I'm hoping to bring that back

Re: [jdev] Automatically Subscribing to Presence Updates from New Users

2009-03-10 Thread Matthew Wild
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Ajay Kapur ajay.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way through jabberd or any of the other servers to have a given client automatically subscribe to presence updates from all new users when they register?  You can assume that this client will always be

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Tuomas Koski
Hi, 2009/3/9 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im: I think it would be valuable to hold a groupchat once a month as a venue for community discussion. I'm calling this the Monthly XMPP Meeting or MXM (you can pronounce it like mix 'em). I propose that we hold the first discussion this

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/10/09 2:48 PM, Tuomas Koski wrote: Hi, 2009/3/9 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im: I think it would be valuable to hold a groupchat once a month as a venue for community discussion. I'm calling this the Monthly XMPP Meeting or MXM (you can pronounce it like mix 'em). I propose that

Re: [jdev] Monthly XMPP Meeting

2009-03-10 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
I'd like to bring up a topic: Directed presences. IMO, as they are now, they are quite useless. One might even consider that a bug in the RFC :). -- Jonathan PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ JDev mailing list Forum:

[jdev] a vision

2009-03-10 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
As posted at my blog *** I have this vision for jabber.org services: 1. A clean and simple website with minimal text that will help end users get started with Jabber. 2. Web chat for a real-time window into one end-user chatroom and one developer chatroom (and perhaps one additional

Re: [jdev] a vision

2009-03-10 Thread Geof
Awesomelooks like a great vision to me! Hope it becomes a reality. Geof Lambert | 916.225.6769 Chat: Google Talk: geof.lambert Skype: geof.lambert MSN: geof.lamb...@gmail.com Contact Me: [image: Linkedin] http://www.linkedin.com/in/geoflambert[image: Twitter]

Re: [jdev] a vision

2009-03-10 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/10/09 5:24 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: 1. A clean and simple website with minimal text that will help end users get started with Jabber. 2. Web chat for a real-time window into one end-user chatroom and one developer chatroom (and perhaps one additional room, such as a