On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 07:23:22PM +0100, Celso Martinho wrote:
What would you use for Avatars now ? JEP-0084 ? Won't scale.
Please enlighten us with your thoughts on the standards-jig mailinglist.
As far as I can see, you haven't contributed there, yet. Just throwing
around these claims without
Why
didn't Apple went for this on iChat and decided to store the avatar
on the user's vcard-tmp ?
Simply because pubsub isn't widely deployed yet, and they had to ship
with something. Many people have commented on iChat's
implementation of
various Jabber protocols, so I won't repeat that here.
On Sat, 14 May 2005 14:06, Hal Rottenberg wrote:
On 5/13/05, Heiner Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is true that users who hit jabber.org for the first time need
guidance. Most want a single simple download link. On the other hand
offering only one or two clients is unfair for the other
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On 14 May 2005, at 05:21, Hal Rottenberg wrote:
I would hazard a guess that most
users will care about subjective analysis and most developers would
care about objective analysis.
I care about objective analysis because it's progressive. New clients
Op zaterdag 14 mei 2005 14:50, schreef Kevin Smith:
On 14 May 2005, at 05:21, Hal Rottenberg wrote:
I would hazard a guess that most
users will care about subjective analysis and most developers would
care about objective analysis.
I care about objective analysis because it's
Sorry for being slightly naive on this but, are you on about a Basic
cert. based on compliance to the Core XMPP documents and then assigning
extra points for additional JEPs covered?
All this phrasing of levels of cert. leads me to think of something in
the order of Bronze,Silver,Gold,Plat.
On 5/14/05, Natasha Live [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for being slightly naive on this but, are you on about a Basic
cert. based on compliance to the Core XMPP documents and then assigning
extra points for additional JEPs covered?
You basically have the idea. We would also rely on meta-jeps
That being the case, would it not be easier for someone to put togethor
a compliance checking test server.
ie if you wish to certify your client you point it at the server. From
that point you run through the usual set of things you would do from the
begining to end.
Say:
Register new user (in
13 maj 2005 kl. 04.32 skrev Hal Rottenberg:
Hi,
I think having a certification of libraries and servers makes a lot
of sense.
Doing it for clients I think will only take a lot of time and not
worth the effort. It's just not very interesting information for the
user, but for a user of a
13 maj 2005 kl. 09.08 skrev Mikael Hallendal:
Hi again,
I think that if we have some kind of review process for clients the
only thing it should do is to decide whether the client is listed
on the jabber.org web page or not.
Could also be a good idea to just list one preferred client for
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13 maj 2005 kl. 09.08 skrev Mikael Hallendal:
Hi again,
I think that if we have some kind of review process
Inviato: venerdì 13 maggio 2005 13.57
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Oggetto: RE: [jdev] XMPP Certification Opinion Poll
To throw my hat in the ring...
I started using jabber about 10-12 months ago and did the whole what client
to use shuffle. I think I even have most of them still installed
By Mikael Hallendal:
Could also be a good idea to just list one preferred client for each
OS though this is bound to create discussions. [...]
It is true that users who hit jabber.org for the first time need
guidance. Most want a single simple download link. On the other hand
offering only one
Could also be a good idea to just list one preferred client for each
OS though this is bound to create discussions. [...]
It is true that users who hit jabber.org for the first time need
guidance. Most want a single simple download link. On the other hand
offering only one or two clients is
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 09:12, schreef Mikael Hallendal:
13 maj 2005 kl. 09.08 skrev Mikael Hallendal:
Hi again,
I think that if we have some kind of review process for clients the
only thing it should do is to decide whether the client is listed
on the jabber.org web page or not.
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 14:31, schreef Roberto Della Pasqua:
Hi dear developers,
IMHO will be allright have the list of the clients sorted by rank column.
Users will vote/rank the favorite client...probably is a fair method.
The disadvantages of this method are that:
1) People can cheat and
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 16:25, schreef Daniel Henninger:
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As a client developer, I must say that I wouldn't be insulted or find it
unfair if there was a chosen client (that was not mine). =) Take gaim
for example, lots of people live and breath by gaim, but if you go to
AIM's site you
You are allright, I agree with you :)
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Sander Devrieze
Inviato: venerdì 13 maggio 2005 18.30
A: jdev@jabber.org
Oggetto: Re: R: [jdev] XMPP Certification Opinion Poll
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 14:31, schreef
I think certification is a good idea. Having a suite of tools for
developers to see how their work would comply with standards would
also be great.
One thing I would find most usefull is a list of JEP recomendations
promoted by the JSF for the implementation of the various generic/
obvious
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One thing I would find most usefull is a list of JEP recomendations
promoted by the JSF for the implementation of the various
generic/obvious IM features that most XMPP clients have, even if the
JEPs are considered experimental or even still in the
This is my long post that I promised to send in another post in this thread.
Op vrijdag 13 mei 2005 04:32, schreef Hal Rottenberg:
We're having quite a debate on the JSF Members list today.
(http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/) The main topic is
certification of open-source Jabber
What would you use for Avatars now ? JEP-0084 ? Won't scale. Why
didn't Apple went for this on iChat and decided to store the avatar
on the user's vcard-tmp ?
I guess the certification will cover and solve most of the problem
anyway.
Celso.
On May 13, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Kevin Smith wrote:
1) Certification.
2) Official JSF Projects.
I vote for another system:
3) Supported JSF Projects. This is a mix of 1) and 2), but it looks mostly
like 2). The big advantage of this system, is that it can handle many
projects, with less JSF efforts.
Sorry but your suggestion does not sound like
On 5/13/05, Heiner Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is true that users who hit jabber.org for the first time need
guidance. Most want a single simple download link. On the other hand
offering only one or two clients is unfair for the other developers.
Therefore we have a long list with the box
On 5/13/05, Richard Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) Certification.
2) Official JSF Projects.
I vote for another system:
3) Supported JSF Projects. This is a mix of 1) and 2), but it looks mostly
like 2). The big advantage of this system, is that it can handle many
projects, with
On 5/13/05, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Users will vote/rank the favorite client...probably is a fair method.
The disadvantages of this method are that:
1) People can cheat and so influence the ranking.
2) It will make it more difficult for new innovative Jabber clients to
We're having quite a debate on the JSF Members list today.
(http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/) The main topic is
certification of open-source Jabber projects. There are at least two
types of certifications being discussed, and I'll go over them very
briefly:
1) Certification. You would
On Thursday 12 May 2005 07:32 pm, Hal Rottenberg wrote:
Why am I telling you this? Well Rachel tells us that she and Julian
tried to get certification going a while ago and it went down in
flames when brought up here on JDEV. So, let it be known that round
#2 of certification is coming.
I
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