Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP... [long]

2008-04-22 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Ernest Nova wrote: > It might offend some, but pub-sub is at high functional level > essentially an access-controlled broadcast chatroom without the > presence traffic/ room roster. The message replication performance and > scalability there too will depend on the implementation. You do get the

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-22 Thread Jeff McAdams
Stephen Pendleton wrote: > Interestingly enough I ran across the iemchat site a few days ago. > Out of curiosity where do you get your feeds from now and what is the > format? As I mentioned in my previous message, I didn't start IEMChat or do most of the setup. The guy that did, Daryl Herzmann,

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP... [long]

2008-04-22 Thread Jeff McAdams
Ernest Nova wrote: > Let's see if I can summarize for my purposes :) Longish response > follows excerpt. Yeah, as we get deeper and deeper, the messages keep getting longer. Makes for a good discussion of the ideas, though. > OK - I am in violent agreement with your ultimate choice, but not > ent

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-22 Thread Stephen Pendleton
Interestingly enough I ran across the iemchat site a few days ago. Out of curiosity where do you get your feeds from now and what is the format? > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:02:53 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > jdev@jabber.org> Subject: Re: [jdev] resources ava

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP... [long]

2008-04-21 Thread Ernest Nova
Let's see if I can summarize for my purposes :) Longish response follows excerpt. --- Jeff McAdams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [arbitrarily edited] > I don't think having the notification in the collaborative forum (ie, > chatroom in this case) is all that important. .. > Also...this only works

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-21 Thread Jeff McAdams
Ernest Nova wrote: > --- Jeff McAdams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Regardless, though...one of XMPP's real strengths is that its more of >> an >> event-driven system...but so many people just don't grok the power of >> that, and some real, useful, demonstrations of what's possible would >> be >> v

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-21 Thread Ernest Nova
--- Jeff McAdams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Regardless, though...one of XMPP's real strengths is that its more of > an > event-driven system...but so many people just don't grok the power of > that, and some real, useful, demonstrations of what's possible would > be > very powerful to have

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-21 Thread Jeff McAdams
Stephen Pendleton wrote: > Well I'm not sure, but the USGS does offer CAP feeds (or at least has > a "subscribe using CAP" button here) > http://geology.usgs.gov/index.htm. For example you can get to a > sample CAP entry here using Firefox: > http://earthquakes.usgs.gov/eqcenter/catalogs/cap/uu0001

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-21 Thread Stephen Pendleton
nt to allow XMPP users to subscribe to CAP alerts by translating the CAP info into pubsub. It would make an excellent Google SoC project (hint, hint!) > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:51:30 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > jdev@jabber.org> Subject: Re: [jdev] resources available v

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-21 Thread Ernest Nova
--- Jeff McAdams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen Pendleton wrote: > > Jeff, so you know what is the status of OASIS and the CAP protocol? > > Isn't that what the USGS and NWS uses? We have a XEP for CAP alerts > > over XMPP: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0127.html > > Yeah, I'm familia

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-21 Thread Jeff McAdams
Stephen Pendleton wrote: > Jeff, so you know what is the status of OASIS and the CAP protocol? > Isn't that what the USGS and NWS uses? We have a XEP for CAP alerts > over XMPP: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0127.html Yeah, I'm familiar with that XEP. Alas, there's not a lot that reads and u

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-21 Thread Stephen Pendleton
hanks > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:19:10 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > jdev@jabber.org> Subject: Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...> > Peter > Saint-Andre wrote:> > Jeff McAdams wrote:...> Sheesh...every time I post to a > list like this, I see

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-18 Thread Jeff McAdams
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Jeff McAdams wrote: > >> So, for example, with the earthquake info, the USGS has a near-realtime >> feed of information that use their own protocol. They have a Java >> utility to receive those events and drop them in a file or is also able >> to fire off a script. A b

Re: [jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-18 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Jeff McAdams wrote: > So, for example, with the earthquake info, the USGS has a near-realtime > feed of information that use their own protocol. They have a Java > utility to receive those events and drop them in a file or is also able > to fire off a script. A bit of simple parsing of the event

[jdev] resources available via XMPP...

2008-04-18 Thread Jeff McAdams
Some of you may be aware of the IEMChat project (https://iemchat.com), with which I am involved. Working with that and living in the mid-west of the USA today, where we had a rather unusual significant earthquake, has convinced me of the idea that one of the things that will help draw people into