Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-21 Thread Alyssa Tong
I think meeting on the East Coast is a great idea. The challenge w/ NY is that it's super expensive to do anything :o) and Boston had a good turn out but the Bay Area seems to always have the greatest turn out, the attendance in the Bay Area has doubled to tripled in # compared to other cities.. O

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-21 Thread Ioannis Moutsatsos
Perhaps a global event on the East Coast (NY, Boston?) would be more accessible to both US and European audiences. Travel to and from these hubs is usually less expensive especially flying from/to Europe. Best regards Ioannis On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 10:51:43 PM UTC-4, Kohsuke Kawaguchi w

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Christopher Orr
On 20/10/15 22:21, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: >> Yeah, I've had the same problem with trying to justify one-day >> inter-continental conference trips, so being longer would help — though >> note that this proposal would likely only be a two-day conference for >> the majority of potent

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Alyssa Tong
+1 for streaming. i'll make the suggestion to the organizing team. rdgs, alyssa On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Luca Milanesio wrote: > > On 20 Oct 2015, at 23:12, Alyssa wrote: > > when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central > location where folks from diff parts of

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Alyssa
@ James. majority of the JUC West attendees were from California: San Francisco, San Jose , Sunnyvale, Santa Clara, Mt View, and Palo Alto. For JUC EU - London had the most attendees. Cambridge, Berlin, Dublin came in second but each of these cities had single digit attendees. On Tuesday, Octo

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Luca Milanesio
> On 20 Oct 2015, at 23:12, Alyssa wrote: > > when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central location > where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it didn't turn > out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one big event in > EU is ver

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Alyssa
when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central location where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it didn't turn out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one big event in EU is very costly. The CB-Jenkins Summits will provide the oppt

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Kohsuke Kawaguchi
2015-10-20 7:45 GMT-07:00 Christopher Orr : > Yeah, I've had the same problem with trying to justify one-day > inter-continental conference trips, so being longer would help — though > note that this proposal would likely only be a two-day conference for > the majority of potential non-US particip

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Kohsuke Kawaguchi
Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered. One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has been that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we do JUC in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only Germans came.

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Christopher Orr
Yeah, I've had the same problem with trying to justify one-day inter-continental conference trips, so being longer would help — though note that this proposal would likely only be a two-day conference for the majority of potential non-US participants (i.e. they're not likely to care about Day 0).

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Stephen Connolly
Wearing my family hat. Can we please have this at a time when I do not have to worry about school runs or I will never get approval to go ;-) "oh a three day party in CA near San Francisco? And you expect me to take AL to handle the school run?" flashbacks of Florida! On Tuesday 20 October 2015,

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Well... I'm wearing my OSS contributor hat now. I think that Kohsuke has mis-stated the proposal a bit. "No JUC in Europe" means that there is "No JUC *sponsored by CloudBees *in Europe". That's all. CloudBees organizes the events in order to push it's business, so it's eligible to optimize it'

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Robert Sandell
I had a somewhat different problem, that it was hard to motivate the travel expense across the pond for a mere one day conference. A three day conference would be easier to motivate in my experience; previously working for a larger corporation with large investment in Jenkins at least. The first Je

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread Manuel Jesús Recena Soto
Hello James, (reply in line) 2015-10-20 12:03 GMT+02:00 James Nord : > Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in Europe. > > Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was > not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to th

Re: Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

2015-10-20 Thread James Nord
Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in Europe. Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to this. As such it was easier to go to a european conference. I also feel tha