Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-03 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Bob, Yeah, I know, but I was expecting that. Simple cyclohexane renders as a boat! Still, the possibilities in the SMI23D site that you called to our attention are thought provoking. The < > trick is new to me. That's a good trick to know in general. Otis On 6/2/2010 9:36 AM, Robert Hanson

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Hanson
looks like that works, but I'm not very satisfied with the conformational outcome! On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: > that didn't work, though. Try putting < > around that url. Does this work? > > > < > http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h]%28

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Hanson
that didn't work, though. Try putting < > around that url. Does this work? < http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=...@h]%28%28c%29c%29[c@H]1CC[C@@H]2[C@@]1%28c...@h]3[c@H]2CCC4[C@@]3%284%29C%29C > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote: > B

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Jeff Hansen
Same for me with Mac Mail. *** Jeff Hansen Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry DePauw University 602 S. College Ave. Greencastle, IN 46135 jhan...@depauw.edu *** On Jun 1, 2010, at 10:10 PM, rgb wrote:

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread rgb
Otis Rothenberger wrote: > Bob, > > This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a > server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the "Jmol load > completed" approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick > way to communicate 3D models via email: > > http://

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Bob, This is the cat's meow. Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck with a server side approach (AJAX very frustrating!), but the "Jmol load completed" approach seems to work. Cholestane is below. What a slick way to communicate 3D models via email: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_pag

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Otis Rothenberger wrote: > Bob, > > You may have told me before, but I forget. How do you signal JavaScript > that the Jmol applet is loaded? I've tried putting a Jmol javascript command > into the Jmol load script, but MSIE seems to ignore this. > > jmolApplet(300

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Bob, You may have told me before, but I forget. How do you signal JavaScript that the Jmol applet is loaded? I've tried putting a Jmol javascript command into the Jmol load script, but MSIE seems to ignore this. AJAX would be nice, but I can't get past the cross domain security issue with th

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Hanson
tisk tisk! Never use setTimeout to do the Jmol load. Use a call FROM Jmol indicating it has loaded to trigger your AJAX call or whatever. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote: > Bob, > > Right now I pass it from a server variable to a hidden field on the page > load. This is

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-05-31 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Bob, Right now I pass it from a server variable to a hidden field on the page load. This is followed by an onLoad call to a TimeOut() load into Jmol. I suspect that timing is the issue. I have to find a better way to do it. AJAX per your subsequent email may be the answer. If I understand AJA

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-05-31 Thread Robert Hanson
Otis, I had to load that page twice to have it work. Don't know why... Bob On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote: > Hello Miguel, > > I have Bob's IU server page discovery hooked to an unsigned applet via > our server at chemagic. The following link should take you directly to

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-05-31 Thread Miguel Howard
Bob, the SMILES support is really *fantastic*! In the conversion from SMILES -> 3D ... Q: ... are the atom locations more-or-less correct for a low-energy configuration? Q: ... are the bond angles more-or-less correct? Miguel ---

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-05-31 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Hello Miguel, I have Bob's IU server page discovery hooked to an unsigned applet via our server at chemagic. The following link should take you directly to the model your son needs: http://chemagic.com/web_molecules/script_page_large.aspx?smiles=C=CCSO Otis On 5/31/2010 2:01 PM, Angel Her

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-05-31 Thread Maurice Schroff
Hello, you could also try to search it on the net, maybe in this site http://cdb.ics.uci.edu/cgibin/ChemicalSearchWeb.psp regards -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Miguel Howard [mailto:mig...@jmol.org] Gesendet: Montag, 31. Mai 2010 18:16 An: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: [Jmo

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-05-31 Thread Angel Herráez
Coolest method: 1. find the SMILES string for 2-propenyl sulfenic acid 2. get the latest Jmol 12.0.RC 3. open the script console 4. type load "$C=CCSO" 5. watch the 3D structure appear in Jmol Kudos to Bob! --

Re: [Jmol-users] need 2-propenyl sulfenic acid molecular model

2010-05-31 Thread Angel Herráez
Hi Miguel! You can draw it and have Jmol optimize 3D Or draw it elsewhere and optimize 3D (I use ChemSketch) then save and open in Jmol -- ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol