[JOYnet] Salvation vs Repentance

2002-09-03 Thread Jojimon Chacko
Dear Friends, Here are some comments on salvation and repentance. SALVATION 1. The freeing of the soul from the bonds of sin and its consequences and the attainment of the everlasting vision of God in heaven, not merely by way of reward but as the achievement of man's proper end. Salvation, t

[JOYnet] salvation (church view)

2001-07-11 Thread JOSEPH C.C.
Hai to all, It was great to see the discussions on Salvation, as I was busy with a lot of things could not contribute on time, I hope u will not mind me mailing after the discussions has been closed, sorry. What I have understood from my study on salvation is that there is salvation only through

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-07-11 Thread Sebastian Kakkasseri
Dear friends, Sorry for the delay, I was busy. By the way our discussion about Salvation is to be concluded, instead of leading to more confusion and misunderstanding. As per the Catholic view, Salvation is not restricted only for Christians or Catholics. There are more people in this world w

RE: RE: [JOYnet] salvation

2001-07-10 Thread George Joseph Fernandes
Praise God for the discussion we are having and it is all it good faith. Right? Please check the CAPS. > -Original Message- > From: jannet fernandez [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: RE: [JO

RE: RE: [JOYnet] salvation

2001-07-10 Thread jannet fernandez
following what Jesus has himself commanded. > > Do share what you feel, preferably with Bible > references. > > Thanks & God Bless You. > > George. > > -Original Message- > > From: Jose Paul Martin > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent:

RE: RE: [JOYnet] salvation

2001-07-09 Thread George Joseph Fernandes
es. Thanks & God Bless You. George. > -Original Message- > From: Jose Paul Martin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: FWD: RE: [JOYnet] salvation > > Hi Guys, > > I don't know if you n

FWD: RE: [JOYnet] salvation

2001-07-09 Thread Jose Paul Martin
Hi Guys, I don't know if you noticed this... but what I gave below is not Catholic Teaching... I just wanted to share it with you so u can understand as to how others are thinking about Salvation. Billy Graham is a well-known evangelist in U.S. and also in the world... however(unfortunately!)

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-07-09 Thread Mathew Joseph
.. thanks, Mathew Joseph, Bangalore, India. - Original Message - From: "Christine Antony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:21 PM Subject: [JOYnet] Salvation > Have you ever noticed that the word "Salvation" i

RE: [JOYnet] salvation

2001-07-09 Thread Jose Paul Martin
Hi, I just came across this article at Billy Grahams' site,... amazingly enough - this was a recent topic on his site... luv jpm Monday July 2, 2001 Dear Mr. Graham: Is it possible for a person to believe in Christ but then later turn his back on Christ and lose his salvation? I worry that t

[JOYnet] salvation

2001-07-08 Thread Mathew Joseph
Hello all, See this link on the topic - salvation. http://www.ewtn.com/expert/expertfaqframe.asp?source=/ewtn/experts/conference .htm The doctrine that "Outside the Church there is no salvation" is one that is constantly misinterpreted by those who won't submit to the Magisterium of the Church.

[JOYnet] Salvation the discussion

2001-07-06 Thread George Michael
dear friends, all of us have our own views about salvation. I hope all has shared,because these sharings has really heped and I am getting my own spiritual insights. thankyou, Shalini,Tellicherry. ** This mail is generated from J

Fwd: Re: [JOYnet] Salvation.............

2001-07-06 Thread Jose Paul Martin
Hi, (Sorry for the delayed email, I had a tough time trying to finish this... busy days!) You have a point Jobin. But I am sure that the Lord will deal with others in the way He wants. That's why i initially stated that it is not our problem as to whether other denominations are saved. Leave i

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-07-05 Thread Sebastian Kakkasseri
Ok ok ok cool down guys. We are just making a disco, so let everybody talk his or her own insights, whether it is right or wrong. There is only one Savior. Salvation is a gift of the Father through the Son. Everybody would be saved through Him only. But that doesnt mean only Christians or

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-07-05 Thread Christine Antony
Have you ever noticed that the word "Salvation" is almost strictly a Christian vocabulary word? (With the exception of Judaism.) I haven't heard this word in the vocabulary of any of my non-Christian friends. It's quite interesting. So what could that possibly mean? There's no such thing

RE: [JOYnet] Salvation.............

2001-07-05 Thread George Joseph Fernandes
om: Suni Lopez [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 8:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [JOYnet] Salvation. > > Hi All, > > What if a lawyer brakes the law??? what the court will do???Punishment > will be to the maxim

Re: [JOYnet] Salvation.............

2001-07-05 Thread Hotmail
Dear freinds, I had been asking myself about salvation as many of our friends have already shared their thoughts. Then I happened to be there for a prayer gathering this week and Br.Pappachen's (I think most of us would know him from Devine / Potta) sharing was going on. and to my surprise he

RE: [JOYnet] Salvation.............

2001-07-04 Thread Suni Lopez
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 1:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JOYnet] Salvation. Hi Jobin, Like I said in my previous email, I don't think it is completely impossible for a non Christian to be saved. But I also think there are advantages in being a Christian beca

Re: [JOYnet] Salvation.............

2001-07-04 Thread LOVELYST
Hi Jobin, Like I said in my previous email, I don't think it is completely impossible for a non Christian to be saved. But I also think there are advantages in being a Christian because they know more about how God is going to judge the people. The tribal guy can be saved if God is satisfied

Re: [JOYnet] Salvation.............

2001-07-04 Thread Thomsson A Jobin
hi folks.. don't be upset.. don't pound on me either.. what will happen to a tribal (innocent guy) who lives in a forest inaccessible to 'chritians friends'... where will he go after his death.. he is away from 'this' world in all senses. (no communication etc.,...) do think he will be refused

Re: [JOYnet] Salvation

2001-07-04 Thread LOVELYST
Hello All, I have a few thoughts on why we should preach the Gospel to gentiles. These reflect only my own opinion. 1. We as Christians have a commandment to preach the Gospel to everyone because Jesus asked his disciples to do so. So it is one the important responsibilities for us. 2. The fa

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-07-04 Thread Sebastian Kakkasseri
Thanks for the mails of Shalini, Lovely, Samji, George etc. all except George supports the salvation is possible for other religious people also because of the mercies of God. But the strong mail from George Fernandes helps us to think again before deciding the salvation of those dont believe

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-07-03 Thread Sebastian Kakkasseri
Thanks for the mails of Shalini, Lovely, Samji, George etc. all except George supports the salvation is possible for other religious people also because of the mercies of God. But the strong mail from George Fernandes helps us to think again before deciding the salvation of those dont believe

RE: [JOYnet] salvation: Is it Christians prerogative? I don't kn ow.

2001-07-01 Thread George Joseph Fernandes
Please check the CAPS. > -Original Message- > From: George Michael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [JOYnet] salvation: Is it Christians prerogative? I don't > know. > > Now this ha

Re: [JOYnet] salvation: Is it Christians prerogative? I don't know.

2001-06-30 Thread LOVELYST
Hello All, This following email only reflects my opinion. I think that we have no reason to judge whether somebody else is going to heaven. Except for saints we cannot make any assumption that somebody is in Heaven, Hell or Purgatory. It is entirely up to God to decide whether a Hindu or Musl

[JOYnet] salvation: Is it Christians prerogative? I don't know.

2001-06-30 Thread George Michael
Now this has been the most debated topic ever since the renewal movement stirred the hearts and minds of the people. As a human I'd like to beleive that every body gets to see heaven. this must be just wishful thnking... anyway And Iam sure the divine plan is also that every human gets t

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-06-30 Thread Sebastian Kakkasseri
Our discussion is little bit out of the Subject now, still as a connected subject let us discuss that too. We started with the question  are you saved? I hope everybody must have understood meaning of this question and what should be the correct answer. Our life is like a game. This game wil

Re: [JOYnet] Salvation

2001-06-29 Thread Wilfred Mathews
June 29, 2001 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [JOYnet] Salvation Some years back, I was attending the Sunday morning mass at St.Teresa's Church, Nungambakkam (at Chennai). That day (or the previous day // ), the Kanchi Kamakoti Swamiji had breathed his last. The Parish Priest, in his sermon asked the peop

Re: [JOYnet] Salvation

2001-06-29 Thread jobin
KakkasseriTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JOYnet] Salvation 06/28/01 01:00

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-06-28 Thread Sebastian Kakkasseri
I appreciate everybody who put forward their views about Salvation, which started by our Josachayan from Saudi. Certainly the Jumbo mail of Fr. Thomas from California, his experience with that so called Saved Christian Auto Driver, and the poor Hindu Damodaran, but a Drunkard, clears all our

Re: [JOYnet] Salvation ?????

2001-06-27 Thread dexon john netto
hai friends, when thinking about salvation... two quotes came to my mind one is of a great theologian Carl Ranar.. in an interview he was asked...what you expect after your death,for the great works you have done...? He answered.. "mercy of Jesus Christ." Next is the one who was a thei

[JOYnet] salvation is"not to sadden to Holy Spirit" Eph4.30

2001-06-27 Thread Thomas Mathew
Salvation "Do not sadden the Holy Spirit" Eph. 4.30 Mr. Damodaran was an interesting person. He was drunk. He was funny,. He talked to me. We journeyed together. I will talk about my expereince with Damodaran in this write up. St. Paul requests us " do not give the devil a chance to work

[JOYnet] Salvation

2001-06-26 Thread Saji Sebastian
Dear JYs, Salvation is eternal... It's like bus heavenward... Jesus is that bus to heaven ( remember he said "I AM THE WAY")... While you are given the opertunity you have to catch the bus... This bus is not a locked up bus... It won't make you addicted to it ... You are awlays free to whatever

Fwd: [JOYnet] Salvation ?????

2001-06-26 Thread Sebastian Kakkasseri
always saved is a very wrong belief. So are you saved? Yes, I am saved at present, and I would be saved in future also if I would lead a good life. Love Sebastian / Kuwait >From: "JOSEPH C.C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [JOYnet] Salvation ??

RE: [JOYnet] Salvation ?????

2001-06-26 Thread George Joseph Fernandes
7; > > Note: all the above verses are quoted from Today's English Version Bible. > > God Bless you all for reading this mail. > > George Fernandes > Qatar > -Original Message- > From: JOSEPH C.C. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 5:

[JOYnet] Salvation ???

2001-06-25 Thread JOSEPH C.C.
Hai Folks, I have seen a lot of discussions going on about salvation etc. Let me put this question for discussion. It will be nice if all of us can share our views. What do you understand by Salvation?And (How will you answer the question) Are you saved? Please share your views.

[JOYnet] Salvation ?????

2001-06-25 Thread JOSEPH C.C.
Hai Folks, I have seen a lot of discussions going on about salvation etc. Let me put this question for discussion. It will be nice if all of us can share our views. What do you understand by Salvation?And Are you saved? (as some of our separated brethrens ask) Please share your views. L