[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-04 Thread Raziel Alvarez
Well, I have a real life, highly dynamic application based on the use of jQuery and specially selectors: a WYSIWYG Forms designer. The application is so nice and intuitive that users adopted it right away and started building really complex forms (+100 complex components). In general, as you alrea

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-04 Thread Juha Suni
Klaus Hartl wrote: I have the feeling that the whole speed discussion is somewhat theoretical, isn't it? I guess in a real life app, e.g. with some normal selections, you will hardly notice any difference between jQuery, Prototype, DOMQuery and others. Am I wrong? It is not at all just theore

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-03 Thread MathiasBank
Well, I have written a treemap implementation in PHP and JavaScript (like the one of SequoiaView - http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/). And in this application, there is a difference. Of course, in most applications, there will be no difference. But there are cases, in which you need a fast selec

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-03 Thread Glen Lipka
What about the common "Grid"? When you have a table with 100-1000+ rows and 5-10+ columns and then you want to resize columns, or bind click functions to them, or enable drag and drop or have collapsable rows, or sorting. This is where selector speed should make a difference. The 1.0 version of

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-03 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Klaus, >I have the feeling that the whole speed discussion is somewhat >theoretical, isn't it? I guess in a real life app, e.g. with some normal >selections, you will hardly notice any difference between jQuery, >Prototype, DOMQuery and others. > >Am I wrong? I think generally you're correct. Lo

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-03 Thread Rey Bango
I think you hit it on the head. From my perspective, I think if these tests were never publicized, then most folks wouldn't even notice the difference unless you were dealing with pages that had to manipulate large amounts of selectors. Rey Klaus Hartl wrote: Dan G. Switzer, II schrieb:

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-03 Thread Klaus Hartl
Dan G. Switzer, II schrieb: * We need a plugin, that enables to speed up the core. It can be used in web applications, which need a lot of perfomance. It doesn't matter, if some core functions are not used any more (performance is the goal). It is important, that the jquery style still remains a

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-03 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
>* We need a plugin, that enables to speed up the core. It can be used >in web applications, which need a lot of perfomance. It doesn't >matter, if some core functions are not used any more (performance is >the goal). It is important, that the jquery style still remains and >that other jquery plug

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-03 Thread MathiasBank
> > _ > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Glen Lipka > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:35 AM > To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com > Subject: [jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different > perspective > > I agree. A

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-02 Thread Walter Lee Davis
On Apr 2, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Joao Pedrosa wrote: Hi, We'd also like to hear your opinions on any issue that you think merits reconsideration. Whether it be file size, components that should be in core or site documentation, we want to hear about it. In Ruby-land, RubyForge has been a ve

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-02 Thread Joao Pedrosa
Hi, We'd also like to hear your opinions on any issue that you think merits reconsideration. Whether it be file size, components that should be in core or site documentation, we want to hear about it. In Ruby-land, RubyForge has been a very successful initiative. Together with RubyGems for pa

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-02 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Lipka Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:35 AM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective I agree. At many big corporations you already have scripts that are required. Google analytics s

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-02 Thread Pje
The "selector turbo" plugin is a good idea. But, in this case, all the selector code in the core will be useless using these plugin. Maybe it's a good time to have custom builds. On 4/2/07, Glen Lipka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree. At many big corporations you already have scripts that ar

[jQuery] Re: jQuery selectors speed improvements - A different perspective

2007-04-02 Thread Glen Lipka
I agree. At many big corporations you already have scripts that are required. Google analytics scripts, Survey scripts, offermatica scripts, e-commerce scripts. Plus the general cruft of legacy scripts for a myriad of purposes. Not to mention all the screenshots and 100K of marketing text. Se