Comments on business logic separation

1999-07-09 Thread Steve Houghton
I realize the benefits of separating business logic from the presentation between servlets and jsp. However I wondering if anyone actually takes it one step further and actually goes to a remote object layer (RMI or CORBA). There obvious advantages to that are that any other application based on

Offtopic: EJB & Corba

1999-07-09 Thread Chulet, Mahesh
Hi! Although I 've'nt implemented any EJB but going throu' some tutorials it makes EJB look very much similar to CORBA framework. What basically separates out EJB from CORBA object ? EJB just looks to be a more polished and implementaion specific defination for CORBA. Can anyone e

JSP refuses to run...

1999-07-09 Thread Szamrej, Mark
I recently downloaded and installed JSP 1.0 for evaluation purposes. The basic Java server starts up and runs when I type in StartServer on the command line. I access the server by going to http://localhost:8080 and the web page is properly served to my browser. When I try to access any of th

Re: Comments on business logic separation

1999-07-09 Thread Michael Fuhrman
Steve, While working on a project at ANR Pipeline, we did just this. The Web Server and a Citrix Server were used to allow remote access to the application. While a Unix and NT boxes uses Remote Method Invocation to maintain data integrity and validity. A Sybase backend was used to house the d

Re: JSP refuses to run...

1999-07-09 Thread Eric Johannsen
Sounds like your CLASSPATH may not be set properly. Controll this in startserver(.bat). Mine is set to CLASSPATH= C:\jdk1.2.1\lib\tools.jar;C:\jdk1.2.1\jswdk-1.0-ea\webserver.jar;C:\jdk1.2.1\jswdk-1.0-ea\lib\servlet.jar;C:\jdk1.2.1\jswdk-1.0-ea\lib\jspengine.jar;C:\jdk1.2.1\jswdk-1.0-ea\lib\jsp.

Re: Beans? Really? Are you sure?

1999-07-09 Thread Schaeffer Rick
I'm afraid that I have no light to shed on Chris's problem. The only thing I can say is: I FEEL YOUR PAIN! I too have been frustrated by the lack of a clear understanding of what a bean is...even though I have successfully implemented a couple of JSP "Beans". Rick Schaeffer ([EMAIL PROTECTED] <

Servlets or JSP?

1999-07-09 Thread Paul Sterk
Hi, Just a quick question for you JSP/Servlet gurus. I have recently started working with JSP, and I am wondering if there is any reason to still code servlets. Should I try to code just using JSP and JavaBeans? Are there reoccurring coding problems that are better handled by a plain servlet?

Re: JDBC, object persistence, object-to-relational mapping, Help!

1999-07-09 Thread Lewis, Grant
Object-to-relational mapping is no easy task and I would recommend purchasing a third-party tool over rolling your own solution. There are many tools available that handle object-to-relational mapping. We use VBSF from ObjectMatter and it does a pretty good job. There are some things I don't like

Re: Beans? Really? Are you sure?

1999-07-09 Thread Gary Burchik
We had the same discussion in work when we started using JSP. While I was out at JavaOne I was able to query one of the designers of the Java Bean spec, and he stated to me that: "Any class that has an empty constructor qualifies as a bean." Anything else including getter/setter methods that aid

Re: Servlets or JSP?

1999-07-09 Thread Felip Miralles
Still another question: is there any advantage in one of the models proposed, i.e. Handling the requests by servlets, triggering some javabeans' actions, and delivering the response via JSP which get properties from these javabeans versus Handling both the request and response with JSP which tr

Re: JDBC, object persistence, object-to-relational mapping, Help!

1999-07-09 Thread DELE TAYLOR
Try http://www.ambysoft.com/mappingObjects.html "Lewis, Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Object-to-relational mapping is no easy task and I would recommend purchasing a third-party tool over rolling your own solution. There are many tools available that handle object-to-relational mapping. We u

INVALID DIRECTIVE

1999-07-09 Thread Mohan K Reddy
Hello: We are trying to use JWS and JSP. A bean was created in CLASSES directory under the server root.The JSP resides in /WEBPAGES/JSP and tries to access the Bean. All the classpath variables are properly set in STARTSERVER.BAT. The following errors are encountered while executing the JSP file:

first JSP

1999-07-09 Thread C Kruppa
Working on my first JSP.  It is just a simple HTML form and corresonding JSP.  I'm using JSWDK1.0 and jdk1.2.1.  JSWDK runs all of the sample JSP's and servlets, but it doesn't recognize any of the JSP tags in my page.  It just takes everything that's not inside a JSP tag and treats it like

JSP 0.91/0.92 Specs

1999-07-09 Thread Hai-Bang Pham
Hello, Does anyone know where I can get the 0.91 or 0.92 JSP specifications that WebSphere supports? Thanks in advance. -Hai === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signof

Re: Servlets or JSP?

1999-07-09 Thread Andrei Filimonov
I think that the only clear advantage of using JSPs is the possibility for HTML writer with very little knowledge in Java or any other programming stuff to create data-driven Web pages. On the other hand there is a huge disadvantage - one has to expose as many data beans as that writer is suppose

Re: JSP 0.91/0.92 Specs

1999-07-09 Thread Matt Butler
Title: RE: JSP 0.91/0.92 Specs If you have Websphere Installed, you can look at the online help which is in the /WebSphere/AppServer/Web/doc directory.  This has a pretty good reference in it! Hope that helps!!! Matt Butler -Original Message- From: Hai-Bang Pham [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

listserv JAIL

1999-07-09 Thread Rode, Mike
Does anyone know how I can get off of this e-mail list? I have done the following several times over the past three days without success. To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff

Re: listserv JAIL

1999-07-09 Thread Bart Locanthi
"Rode, Mike" wrote: > >Does anyone know how I can get off of this e-mail list? > >I have done the following several times over the past three days without success. excellent question i've been trying to get off this list for several weeks, to no avail. i've tried every email address i've eve

Re: first JSP

1999-07-09 Thread John Zukowski
http://java.about.com/library/weekly/aa062399.htm includes a description of creating a first JSP program with the tools you mention. J Thanks for your message at 02:23 PM 7/9/99 -0500, C Kruppa: >Working on my first JSP. It is just a simple HTML form and corresonding >JSP. I'm using JSWDK1.0 a

JSP Spec 1.1 Comments: Events?

1999-07-09 Thread Chad Darby
Hi All, I just took a look at the 1.1 spec and the additional information on "tag extensions" is very good. However, I'm disappointed that the spec doesn't include the promised features: - Support for application state, "global.jsa" - Support for event handlers: - application_onStart -

Re: can't import java.sql.*

1999-07-09 Thread Daniel Lopez
Hi Arif, What JSP engine are you using? Is it jswdk1.0ea? If that's the case I think there's a bug and the "import" directive must be, temporarily, spelled "imports". So your line should read <% page language="java" imports="java.sql.*,java.net.URL " %> ^ I hope this

Re: listserv JAIL

1999-07-09 Thread Gabriel Lawrence
A tip I've found to be very useful in cases were I cant get off a list is to send mail to the postmaster at the machine where the listserv is hosted. The postmaster alias is the person at a site who has ultimate responsibility for the email server, its in one of the RFC's somewhere... Anyway, they

Re: JSP 0.91/0.92 Specs

1999-07-09 Thread Richard Vowles
Look at the FAQ - http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp Hai-Bang Pham wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know where I can get the 0.91 or 0.92 JSP specifications > that WebSphere supports? > Thanks in advance. -- Richard Vowles, Senior Systems Engineer, Inprise New Zealand MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EM

Re: What is going on with my import statement ???

1999-07-09 Thread Ted Stockwell
I have experienced the same problem, the <%@ page include="..."%> tag just doesn't work. If you put the following line in servlets.properties jsp.initparams=keepgenerated=true ...then the code generated by the JspServlet will not be deleted. Then you can check the code and you will se

Re: What is going on with my import statement ???

1999-07-09 Thread Ted Stockwell
> -Original Message- > From: Ted Stockwell > Subject: RE: What is going on with my import statement ??? > > I have experienced the same problem, the <%@ page include="..."%> tag just > doesn't work. [Ted Stockwell] Sorry, I should have wrote that the <%@ page import="

Re: What is going on with my import statement ???

1999-07-09 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Ted Stockwell wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Ted Stockwell > > Subject: RE: What is going on with my import statement ??? > > > > I have experienced the same problem, the <%@ page include="..."%> tag just > > doesn't work. > [Ted Stockwell] > Sorry, I should

Re: Initial Install Failure

1999-07-09 Thread Srinivas Rampally
When you set CLASSPATH you need to set CLASSPATH to all Jar files not to the folder name. You are probably doing like this .. set CLASSPATH=i:\java\lib But you need to this .. set CLASSPATH=i:\java\lib\classes.zip I am sure you must be knowing .. but in case .. If you have multiple jar (zip) fi

JRUN and IIS 4.0 *AND* Apache 1.3.6

1999-07-09 Thread John Malloy
(Unable to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] so am posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead). I am running JRUN build 152 on IIS 4.0 on NT4. I just installed the binary win32 version of Apache 1.3.6 on the same machine. I want to be able to run JRUN build 152 on either IIS *OR* Apache. (Obviously only on

invoking a jsp page from a servlet [500 Internal Server Error]

1999-07-09 Thread Allamraju Kumarswamy
Guys-- I'm trying to invoke a jsp page from a servlet This sample is given in http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html Question: 10 when i access the servlet(http://localhost:8080/servlet/FooServlet ) from the browser i'm getting the following error message 500 Internal Server Error The servl

really new to jsp.

1999-07-09 Thread Jeff Vaccaro
I know you get a lot of these types of messages... but I've been doing asp for the past year and I really want to get into Java Server Pages. What is best book for beginners to learn jsp? I have very little java experience, so that might be something to consider. Thanks for your help. Jeff V

global.jsa

1999-07-09 Thread Joseph, Sajeev
Is there a "global.jsa" in JSP, similar to the "global.asa" in ASP? === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PR

Re: multilingual jsp

1999-07-09 Thread David Mossakowski
Jan, As I understood your question: you want multilingual support using only JSP pages. How about having a template page that has absolutely no text in it but JSP tags and scriptlets. The way it would work you would alias Application_en.jsp and Application_fr.jsp to Application.jsp and then see

Re: JRUN and IIS 4.0 *AND* Apache 1.3.6

1999-07-09 Thread Song Jun
I did use Apache and JRun on NT4 workstation. A couple of things you should know: 1. Install Apache first. 2. When you install JRun, you need specify Apache conf directory which should by your Apache root/conf. 3. You can run JRun as server mode/application mode, and they are not quite same( You c

need your help

1999-07-09 Thread Jodi X Li
Hi, I am a new user of JSP and I need your help. I just downloaded the reference implementation of the JavaServer WDK Version 1.0 EA and I tried to run the examples it has. The servlet examples run ok, but the JSP examples return the following error messages: Error: 500 No detailed message What