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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rajendra Mishra
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 9:58 PM
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Subject: Re: FW: when to use Bean !!!
Dan,
I hv a few servlets which basically form a part
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From: Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
** [Long, excellent description of JSP/Servlet architecture deleted] **
Craig McClanahan
Very well written explanation, Craig! Considering how many times this issue
has been addressed on this list, I must say I'm impressed
University
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Chris Macias wrote:
...and this could probably be expanded to "When to use a servlet and
when
to use a Bean and when to use an EJB", but now we're asking for a white
paper! :-)
But, seriously, can any of the gurus out there help out us newbie
:Re: when to use Bean !!!
Hi,
Let me add my 2c, as Craig "suggested" that's quite a question and it's
better to learn about the technologies and then decide by yourself, but
you asked for some opinions so...
In my case I'm using all of them at the same time.
.- I use a servlet
yes, yes Craig ! That is exactly what we are doing
(or trying to do :-) What we need from servers dynamic
(in my opinion of course) is just ability to load
classes/run methods. The product we are using (alaJSP)
is all about that.
But in my opinion this approach is hided by JSP specs/documents
Dmitri Namiot wrote:
yes, yes Craig ! That is exactly what we are doing
(or trying to do :-) What we need from servers dynamic
(in my opinion of course) is just ability to load
classes/run methods. The product we are using (alaJSP)
is all about that.
And of course, JSP and servlets both
..and this could probably be expanded to "When to use a servlet and when
to use a Bean and when to use an EJB", but now we're asking for a white
paper! :-)
Actually, you are missing one :-) "when to use a custom action", and
that is a very important one, although you have
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Subject: Re: when to use Bean !!!
Craig,
A polite way of saying "RTFM", huh? :-)
What you didn't say (but could have) is that this is a JSP-specific
interest list, and the questions we're asking are really drifting across
the line from &qu
Well, actually, you *can* put all your business logic into your
servlet.
But then you'd be passing up the niceties of EJB.
Business logic encapsulation container-managed transactions, to
name a few.
I think Craig was looking at single entry point servlet,
EJBs provide a nice architecture for writing server side components. If
reusability is one of your design goals, then this is a very attractive
option. EJB uses the concept of container and component. The container
provides the basic infrastructure for developing large scale
applications -
"ACI Team (Chennai)" wrote:
hello all,
someone was mentioning about keeping the business logic in EJB or
SERVLET , could someone explain more about where to keep the logic to be
efficient enough.
i think craig was saying something about having a single servlet for
the
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From: Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: custom tags, xmlc, scalability (was: when to use bean..)
Custom tags are very flexible; most of the standard tags of JSP 1.0 can
be described as custom tags, and many JSP vendors are providing their
own tag
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From: Brien Voorhees [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: custom tags, xmlc, scalability (was: when to use bean..)
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From: Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: custom
There are actually some pretty nice object oriented approaches to doing HTML output
in
servlets. This is one of the things you can use implementations of the HTML Document
Object Model (DOM) for (see http://www.w3.org). See also things like the htmlKona
library that is (or was?) part of
looks like very logical and clear model, but see:
you submit your forms to servelt. (I also like
one servlet per application, just more easy to
maintain). So your logic (application logic) is
supported by servlet. What in that case the added
value from JSP-beans to web-application ?
Yes, we have
Dmitri Namiot wrote:
looks like very logical and clear model, but see:
you submit your forms to servelt. (I also like
one servlet per application, just more easy to
maintain). So your logic (application logic) is
supported by servlet. What in that case the added
value from JSP-beans to
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From: Dmitri Namiot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: when to use Bean !!!
looks like very logical and clear model, but see:
you submit your forms to servelt. (I also like
one servlet per application
Hi
Does any one has clear picture of when to use bean in Jsp
Help of any sort appreciated..
Aciteam
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I want to add to this question, When use a Bean and When to use a
Servlet?
Thanks, Carlos.
"The successful man make their own opportunities."
"ACI Team (Chennai)" wrote:
Hi
Does any one has clear picture of when to use bean in Jsp
Help of any sort app
Chris Macias wrote:
...and this could probably be expanded to "When to use a servlet and when
to use a Bean and when to use an EJB", but now we're asking for a white
paper! :-)
But, seriously, can any of the gurus out there help out us newbies with
some 'rules of thumb' for w
Title: RE: when to use Bean !!!
This is what I think .
First, let me explain the design model I implement (say, a DB query application)
1. Client sends (HTML) request to servlet asking for data from db. Client submit
userid password.
2. Servlet conducts db access authentication
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From: Hu, Jeffery X (Jeff) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: when to use Bean !!!
This is what I
ent: Monday, October 25, 1999 11:05 AM
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Subject:Re: when to use Bean !!!
Chris Macias wrote:
...and this could probably be expanded to "When to use a servlet and when
to use a Bean and when to use an EJB", but now we're asking for a white
paper! :-)
But, ser
avez écrit le (you wrote on) 09:05
25/10/99 -0700 :
Chris Macias wrote:
...and this could probably be expanded to "When to use a servlet and when
to use a Bean and when to use an EJB", but now we're asking for a white
paper! :-)
But, seriously, can any of the gurus out there h
Chris Macias wrote:
Craig,
A polite way of saying "RTFM", huh? :-)
Not really ... I imagine that many people don't know where to even find the "FM" so
they can read it. :-). This stuff is all so new that there is not a lot of
explanatory material that is readily available in well known
: Monday, October 25, 1999 1:46 PM
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Subject: Re: when to use Bean !!!
Chris,
I come to this news group only and I found it is good enough. In fact, I
picked up a lot tips from Craig. (salute Craig, :-) @_@!
Sybase's Jaguar CTS (Component Transaction Server 3.0
Jeff,
I come to this news group only and I found it is good enough. In fact,
I picked up a lot tips from Craig. (salute Craig, :-) @_@!
Agreed! I'm learning so much from Craig's postings (and several other's)
that I feel like I ought to be sending him a monthly check! But money's a
little
Luc Saint-Elie wrote:
Craig,
I usually really love your answers that are by far the must useful and
comprehensives ones.
But in this case I really don't agree.
I read the J2EE docs and I'm still unable to answer to simple questions like
- in this case use JSP
- in this case use JSP +
Craig,
A few questions/comments below:
Craig McClanahan wrote:
If you look inside my apps, you'll see the following design pattern all over the
place:
* JSP page contains an input form. The values
are pre-filled-in from a session bean that contains
application default values the
Anirban Sharma wrote:
Craig,
A few questions/comments below:
Craig McClanahan wrote:
If you look inside my apps, you'll see the following design pattern all over the
place:
* JSP page contains an input form. The values
are pre-filled-in from a session bean that contains
Question: Do you extract this information from the HttpSession? I was
reading an article where they were saying that stuffing too much
information to Sessions may adversely effect the scalability of a high
traffic site. Is that true?
This is a very good point. Using session beans is
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Hi
Does any one has clear picture of when to use
bean in Jsp
Help of any sort appreciated..
Aciteam
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:13:56 +1000
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