Bryan == Bryan ONeal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...F/OSS sociology...]
I would love to read what a hard core sociologist has to say on this sort
of thing!! What comes out of it could help me recognise the devation
points and slay the dragons before they hatch.
Well, if you search around a
Erik == Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
As the steward of such a well known brand, the ASF has, IMNSHO,
completely failed in their duty to make the brand stand for things like
high-quality, useful, etc. software.
No question that there are crappy projects at ASF. There are
On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:53 AM, John D. Mitchell wrote:
How are you seeing that manifest itself? Community is what Apache
takes
the most seriously. The codebase is 2nd to community. A thriving
healthy community around a codebase is what the aim is.
No, you (and they :-) are confusing popularity
Erik == Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:53 AM, John D. Mitchell wrote:
[...]
How are you seeing that manifest itself? Community is what Apache
takes the most seriously. The codebase is 2nd to community. A
thriving healthy community around a codebase is what
However, please note that the focus was on the ASF as an
organization and
how their (lack of) leadership has failed the entire community.
Howdy John, et. al
I probably would have agreed/shared a lot of John's opinions on ASF...
up until this week.
I've started talking with the chaps in
On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:50 AM, John D. Mitchell wrote:
Erik == Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:53 AM, John D. Mitchell wrote:
[...]
How are you seeing that manifest itself? Community is what Apache
takes the most seriously. The codebase is 2nd to community. A
Tim - that is an excellent point and one I should have thought of.
I've been watching your infrastructure posts recently.
John is a member of this so-called community that has apparently been
failed by ASF or is he? What has he done to help? Show me a list of
patches or bug reports or even
Erik == Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
John is a member of this so-called community that has apparently been
failed by ASF or is he? What has he done to help? Show me a list of
patches or bug reports or even e-mails to the *community* he feels free
to poke at from the
On Feb 23, 2005, at 12:48 PM, John D. Mitchell wrote:
Bullshit. I've been helping and contributing to free/open source
projects
for longer than you've been programming. Including you and yours.
Really? I believe you're only like a year older than me and I started
coding when I was 7 years old
Various People said:
[various things i don't care about]
tomcat,apache httpd, tapestry, struts, ant, and bcel have all made my
job or my hobby easier at one time or another. i'm sure other
apache.org projects have made other people's work easier. i care oh so
very little about whether these
Andrew,
interesting things here re: open source darwinism.
What is not being addressed is the 'hype' allele.
This is the situation where qualities evolve on thier
own that are not actually useful or productive
qualities, but are only features of advertising and
hype for the project. For
Various People said:
[various things i don't care about]
LOL :-)
Another problem with my analogy might be that it's been a
while since i took a genetics class
and didn't exactly ace that one.
I have an actual degree in the subject... and regardless of
'correctness' -- the analogy is
a peacock tail
evolved naturally, but actually runs counter to the
survival of the organism and the society of peacocks(
Josh apparently didn't do as well in Genetics as Andrew grin
Go have a look at Dawkins, The Selfish Gene... the Game of Life, as it
were, is all about continuation of the
Peacocks, like most other male mammals, have little to do with
childbirth... it's all about HEY! Lookit me! Plase! Don't I look
pretty! You want ME! Who's your daddy???
Heh heh, of course, I would slip myself with all this silly talk of
peacocks. :-)
Peacock's aren't mammals, of course.
Tim Colson (tcolson) wrote:
Ex: a free server that is Great Stuff(sm) but runs in obscurity vs
glitzy software from Peacock Inc that markets via a Superbowl ad --
whichever one winds up installed into an enterprise wins the genetic
race (or at least one lap.)
The breakdown with the analogy is that
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