http://grunge.cs.tu-berlin.de/~tolk/vmlanguages.html
Enjoy!
I can't enjoy this too much because OGNL is not on this page :-(
:-)
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You can put in the JRE extensions directory: $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/ext
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L successfully as an extension language in innumerable
projects and it always (and I mean ALWAYS) means reduced amounts of
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d does automatically given the "valueType"
attribute, and storing the values somewhere, which the matrix[row][col]
expression does quite succinctly).
Oops. There I go again. Sorry.
projects and it always (and I mean ALWAYS) means reduced amounts of
"garbage code".
&qu
triangle pointing at them?
Roll your own, that's what.
As for Tapestry, I think that Howard is doing a great job. He's got the
right idea architecturally and the upcoming Tapestry implementation
(2.4) will go a long way toward making it greater still (with more
Once you get the hang of it, it's way easier than Struts
and JSP.
Thanks, Nick.
I think I'll take your and Tim's advice and shut the hell up about this
before I actually piss someone off. I removed the rant from my site, BTW.
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u are trying to do? There is also Class.getConstructors()
where you can call other than the default no-arg constructor (if you need
to pass parameters to the constructor).
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//www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-databdopt/ . Part
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That's the XML stuff I was talking about last night.
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Erik, it took you 26 minutes to reply to this. You're slipping :-)
Erik Hatcher wrote:
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27, 2003, at 02:22 PM, Tim Colson wrote:
This seems simple, but I'm missing it in the manual
and Google is no
help.
:( You didn't buy "the definitive guide", huh? That would be
Thomas Hicks wrote:
As long as we're doing an Ant clinic...I have a problem which is
bugging me...when I use Ant to build and then get an exception
with a stack trace (yes, it happens), the location of the error
(for code compiled with Ant) cannot be determined. This seems
to be some Javac task fl
stuff together and make it work.
I think they are setting themselves up for failure.
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didn't exist already. The answer you gave me was
very insightful about the Ant community - most people don't use ant to
write systems, they write build files.
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Erik Hatcher wrote:
On Jan 7, 2004, at 6:17 PM, Drew Davidson wrote:
It seems that the solution to every ant problem ends up being "use a
property file". Or "it's tricky". Isn't *anything* straightforward
in Ant? Except of course compiling Java source in a
rse :-)
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ts will be normalized and inheritable (so it's possible to have a
sub-context of an OGNL context with variations).
I'm looking forward to getting this done as soon as my life permits.
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iguration. I'm sure that the AOP part is just as well-done.
WOW! Spring is killer. Spring makes TDD in J2EE so much more doable. You got
to check out Spring.
I agree. Wait until version 1.1 when they will have OGNL integrated.
It will be even better!
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Tucson JUG - T-JUG Posted on
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John Kroubalkian
and Denise Cross
are the contacts. Anyone know them?
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John D. Mitchell wrote:
The Hatchet wrote:
And with Ant, you get to choose what programming language that is:
Erik Hatcher wrote:
On Jan 7, 2004, at 11:00 PM, Drew Davidson wrote:
Especially the line that:
"The point is that builds can become arbitrarily complex, and
anything less than a full programming language is just doesn’t cut it."
And with Ant, you get to choose what programming lan
Erik Hatcher wrote:
On Mar 4, 2004, at 8:21 PM, Drew Davidson wrote:
NIH. I've found the Jakarta people to be the most snobbish,
political bunch around. They have a technocracy that pays lip
service to Open Source but they only want *their* open source. I
was semi-joking with Howard
here but I'll be happy to discuss this at
the JUG meeting next Tuesday.
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Warner Onstine wrote:
I would just like to point out that we have a new Site design!
Courtesy of none other than Tim Colson. Visit the revamped CSS-only
layout at:
http://www.tucson-jug.org
Timo, great work. It's very classy!
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These are just some suggestions. Feel free to let me know what you
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yet. I am a WebOGNL god, wanna talk about how OGNL is used in that? :-)
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summary. My explanation pales in comparison.
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ed that section with some smileys or something.
It was a joke for anyone who has visited my site and had their eyeballs
burn in their skull. :-)
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I wish I could be there.
I really want to learn more about Ognl.
I will be out of town.
You are in danger of not being able to call yourself a Tucsonan :-)
Can you post the slides on the website?
Sure.
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even though EL is inferior to OGNL in many ways. I just don't get it.
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print "copying $file to $tofile\n";
copy($file,"D:/temp/bak/${tofile}.bkp") or warn "Can not copy $tofile
$!\n";
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Tim, I think you need to repost the code because there was a big wad of
line noise in your previous posting.
No, wait, that's just Perl code.
Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
Drew Davidson wrote:
[...]
I personally feel that ego JSRs such as this are turning the way the
process should work on its head by saying "we're going to build this
technology that everybody is going to want to use." If that's really
the case, wh
/j2se/1.5.0/docs/relnotes/features.html#enums
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m all-pervasive.
Oracle claims to fuel the Internet, but it's really OGNL.
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x27;d love to. I sent out a message on the OGNL interest mailing list asking about who is using OGNL
in what projects.
The only respondent was Howard Lewis Ship of Tapestry fame.
So it's a bit difficult to find out who is using OGNL.
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In addition, I recommend a live chicken or goat be sacrificed. I
believe that is documented in the Ant INSTALL.txt file under
"Troubleshooting". Be sure to read the entrails and follow the
directions EXACTLY.
:-)
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version. Also it edits DocBook in a WYSIWYG (What You
See Is What You Got :-) fashion. It's written in Java also, so it's
available for lots of platforms.
http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/
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fectly readable & maintainable (for the most part :-),
because they are written as close to the domain of the problem as
possible. Read the two Programming Pearls books for much better
thoughts on this than I am presenting here.
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Andrew Huntwork wrote:
Drew Davidson wrote:
Richard Hightower wrote:
I agree. Like it or not Groovy looks like it will be a factor.
(Poor
Drew hates it with a passion.)
Actually I don't hate it at all. I actually quite like the concept
of a language that allows for scripting that i
Richard Hightower wrote:
Hook. Line. And Sinker That was such obvious flame bait
Thanks for going easy on me... Big guy!
I'll get you for this Rick Hightower. I swear it.
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as a control panel also (no service install, however).
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ne of the few. Almost
anything that I do that is interesting has many interacting pieces that
would be better served by configuration.
If you are developing web apps, I feel it very wise to look into
Spring for
the backend to augment your investment in J2EE.
And to be play both sides of the d
Erik Hatcher wrote:
On Jan 10, 2005, at 4:50 PM, Drew Davidson wrote:
creamy OGNL goodness
I love OGNL, but the thought of it being creamy has lessened it somewhat.
Don't be scared off because of its creaminess. It's gooey and chewy
also, if you configure it right.
Given that it is a
ive me
IoC! Who is the local IoC expert? I must employ him
at all costs!
Josh, you owe me a new keyboard. I just spewed coffee all over it when
I read your posting.
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be a shakeout of best practices, but that's a very good thing for
everyone. There will be "bad Spring" and "good Spring" and eventually
all of the bad Spring will be filtered out as people
nothing like him.
This is the second thread that I've been forceable dragged into :-) And
now Tim is making inflamatory remarks about both my genetics and my
progeny. Is this flame bait, Timo? :-)
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I don't feel that I need to have to pay (with my time) to have my
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Erik Hatcher wrote:
On Feb 27, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Drew Davidson wrote:
I have an ant task that writes a property file based on a prefix.
For a frequent basher of Ant, it might behoove you to know the enemy
well:
True that this misses the original point, as does your task, of
keeping the
of using the servlet. I'm not just uploading documents
and serving them, however, so my setup is probably more complicated that
yours would be. My application has uploaded images that are thumbnailed
on-demand to verious sizes.
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source:"ognl:courseList.{? #foo = #this,
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Give that a try and see if it works better. Note that the "visit.user"
should not have worked unless the object from the courseList list is a
page or component. Is it?
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o suit me. Many of my co-workers use
Eclipse on the Mac and they are very productive. There are WO
integration tools (WOLips) that make WO development much easier. I even
use Eclipse to work on Objective-C code.
Just another data point.
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Welcome to the side of the angels, Rick. Glad to have you!
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On May 9, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Richard Hightower wrote:
Vista is the best thing that ever happened to me.
It SUCKED so bad that after six months of hell I finally
switched to a Mac. I turned my old vista machine into Ubunt
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