[JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Hello developers, there are now just two plugins left in deeJUMP: * the GetFeatureInfo plugin for WMS layers * the deegree file adapters to use the deegree library to read/write GML3 and shapefiles I realize that adding these plugins directly to OpenJUMP will result in OJ depending on quite

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I appreaciate Andreas' consideration for bloating OpenJUMP's dependencies on external libraries, and I also have no problem hosting DeeJUMP plug-ins in the JPP SVN Repository. I will leave the structure of the SVN repository up to others more experienced with the use of SVN, but I think Paul made

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Stefan Steiniger
>ah, so you meant we could add the GetFeatureInfo to the WFSPlugin, >right? > > > yes.. but for the download. If you think it may be worth to merge the sources.. you can also do that stefan - This SF.net email is sponsore

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: Hi, > I appreaciate Andreas' consideration for bloating OpenJUMP's > dependencies on external libraries, and I also have no problem hosting > DeeJUMP plug-ins in the JPP SVN Repository. Great. Then I think I'll create a deeJUMP plugin. For the downloads I'm sure we can

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Andreas Schmitz wrote: >Stefan Steiniger wrote: > >Hi, > > > >>I fully support to add these plugin to svn and the soureforge site. >>Maybe we need to think about the structure here .. so that not every >>plugin gets a new box. So the wfs plugin could be added to the other wfs >>plugin? >>

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Paul Austin
Stefan, I would advocate in favour of plugins having their own "box" within the SVN if all of the code within that plugin is required for the plugin to work or if the functionality offered by the plugin works as a logical group. For example each different file format supported should be a sep

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Stefan Steiniger wrote: Hi, > >>I fully support to add these plugin to svn and the soureforge site. > >>Maybe we need to think about the structure here .. so that not every > >>plugin gets a new box. So the wfs plugin could be added to the other wfs > >>plugin? > >> > >> > > > >hm, which o

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Stefan Steiniger wrote: Hi, > I fully support to add these plugin to svn and the soureforge site. > Maybe we need to think about the structure here .. so that not every > plugin gets a new box. So the wfs plugin could be added to the other wfs > plugin? hm, which other WFS plugin is there? >

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-10 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Andreas, I agree with you - and the dependencies are also the reason why i did not add them to OJ. I fully support to add these plugin to svn and the soureforge site. Maybe we need to think about the structure here .. so that not every plugin gets a new box. So the wfs plugin could be added

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-13 Thread Dr. Markus Lupp (Müller)
Hi Landon, Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: > [snip] > > I'd also like to know if the DeeJUMP team had any thoughts about > Paul's suggestion of tapping into the Java port of PROJ4. It seems > like a logical choice for projection code. > When we started to include proj4 in deegree we had some pr

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-13 Thread Dr. Markus Lupp (Müller)
Hi Landon, Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: > [snip] > > I'd also like to know if the DeeJUMP team had any thoughts about > Paul's suggestion of tapping into the Java port of PROJ4. It seems > like a logical choice for projection code. > When we started to include proj4 in deegree we had some p

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-13 Thread Stefan Steiniger
of course, i am/we are interested in your evaluation results. stefan Dr. Markus Lupp (Müller) schrieb: > Hi Landon, > > Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: >> [snip] >> > >> I'd also like to know if the DeeJUMP team had any thoughts about >> Paul's suggestion of tapping into the Java port of PROJ4.

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-24 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Stefan Steiniger wrote: Hi, > of course, i am/we are interested in your evaluation results. [...] > >> I'd also like to know if the DeeJUMP team had any thoughts about > >> Paul's suggestion of tapping into the Java port of PROJ4. It seems > >> like a logical choice for projection code. we fini

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Austin
Andreas, Maybe if we as a community offer to help the author create a community around the Java projection library it will eventually have full support. I think that it would be nice to have a full free Java projection library. Paul Andreas Schmitz wrote: > Stefan Steiniger wrote: > > Hi, > >

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-24 Thread Larry Becker
How much code are we talking about? regards, Larry Becker On 8/24/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas, > > Maybe if we as a community offer to help the author create a community > around the Java projection library it will eventually have full support. > I think that it would be

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Austin
Larry the code can be got from http://www.jhlabs.com/java/maps/proj/javaproj-1.0.4.zip so you can see the size of it. I've emailed the author to find out what is missing and to see if he wants to get involved in the discussion. Paul --

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-24 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Paul, This is great. We need more efforts at collaboration like this. Markus and Andreas, What is the status of the projection code in Deegree? Could it be modified for use in OpenJUMP? (It would probably be easier to use a library from Deegree, since using the port of Proj4 will probably requir

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Austin
Landon, The Java Projection Library works purely on coordinates not on features. I defined a simple interface for projections that project forward and inverse on JTS Geometries. I think what we need to do in JUMP is define an interface for projections something like shown below. And then define a

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-24 Thread Larry Becker
Paul, the jhlabs java code seems to only loosly based on the PROJ4 interface. This seems to make it somewhat questionable. PROJ4, even though it is nasty looking C code, is at least fairly well tested by the many projects that use it. Larry On 8/24/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > L

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-25 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: Hi, > This is great. We need more efforts at collaboration like this. I agree. Having a good, free projection library would be desirable. > What is the status of the projection code in Deegree? Could it be > modified for use in OpenJUMP? (It would probably be easier to

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-26 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Andreas, thats good to hear. I hope you are looking on geotools projection code as well. As far as i checked out the guy that is responsible for it has the appropriate background (at least i think so). and geotools realized already lots of projections ( i guess EPSG completely). But lots of

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-26 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hei Stefan, hei Andreas, Making a new projection library is a very exciting project. As there are at least two other projects (javaproj and geotools) I'd like to make sure I undersand what would be the specific purpose of a new library. Javaproj and geotools have very different approaches (oppos

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-29 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Michaël Michaud wrote: Hi, > Making a new projection library is a very exciting project. > As there are at least two other projects (javaproj and geotools) I'd > like to make sure I undersand what would be the specific purpose of a > new library. > Javaproj and geotools have very different appr

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-08-29 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Andreas, as Michael pointed out: we will try to support you. And having a 3d person working on it - should be ok. At least he is firm with all the 3d coordsys stuff. Working with ellipsoids is still a bit different but learnable. I am glad that Michael has also some experiences on that too.

Re: [JPP-Devel] deeJUMP plugin

2007-09-01 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I work with geodesy concepts and map projections a little in my work, and I had a suggestion I would throw out there. Please for give me if my ignorance shines through here. If we are thinking of a simple library that only transforms coordinates and not higher-level objects I think the implementat