Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-10-10 Thread HahnC
. Thank you. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag von Paul Stewart Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Oktober 2013 20:57 An: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Betreff: Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS Has anyone configured this up

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-27 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
, September 26, 2013 11:40 PM Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS The reason for the VPLS use is that we have multiple BNG nodes that load share the PPPoE sessions. And to mitigate single points of failure. I believe Juniper might just be looking

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-27 Thread Terebizh, Evgeny
I've seen a similar scenario. Yes, I guess it's up to client's machine which PADO to use. Typically host machine answers to the first PADO it gets. It could be assumed that the load would be split between two redundant NAS boxes as the least loaded NAS is gonna serve clients first (I mean it

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-27 Thread Caillin Bathern
] On Behalf Of Terebizh, Evgeny Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013 5:34 PM To: Paul Stewart; William Jackson Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS I've seen a similar scenario. Yes, I guess it's up to client's machine which PADO to use. Typically host

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-27 Thread Terebizh, Evgeny
...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Terebizh, Evgeny Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013 5:34 PM To: Paul Stewart; William Jackson Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS I've seen a similar scenario. Yes, I guess it's up to client's machine which PADO to use

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-27 Thread Caillin Bathern
ET It's not that bad comparing to IPoE model. At least you got PPP keepalives, so it won't take a long time for a CPE to re-establish internet connectivity through terminating existing session and creating a new one. As I recall, In IPoE scenario CPE will keep existing session up for 75% of dhcp

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-27 Thread Terebizh, Evgeny
ET It's not that bad comparing to IPoE model. At least you got PPP keepalives, so it won't take a long time for a CPE to re-establish internet connectivity through terminating existing session and creating a new one. As I recall, In IPoE scenario CPE will keep existing session up for 75% of dhcp

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-26 Thread William Jackson
The reason for the VPLS use is that we have multiple BNG nodes that load share the PPPoE sessions. And to mitigate single points of failure. I believe Juniper might just be looking into this scenario as well. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-26 Thread Paul Stewart
I'm curious on the load sharing you mentioned here... So you have a VPLS path from DSLAM going to two different BNG nodes at the same time? How does the PPPOE session setup work - first one to answer? (presuming you are referring to PPPOE) Love to hear more about this as we have talked about

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-25 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:27:48 AM Graham Brown wrote: I've run into a very strange bug on the MX where PPP through a VPLS results in the packets being mangled - affected circuits have been migrated to L2VPNs. Although a fix is provided in 12.3R4 which we are currently testing -

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 04:05:50 PM Adrien Desportes wrote: Hello William, Before 13.2 you would have to use an external loop to terminate the vpls on one side and the ppp on the other side (as lt- interface does not support the proper encapsulation for ppp). Starting 13.2 (that

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-24 Thread Graham Brown
I've run into a very strange bug on the MX where PPP through a VPLS results in the packets being mangled - affected circuits have been migrated to L2VPNs. Although a fix is provided in 12.3R4 which we are currently testing - I'll dig out the PR when I get into the office. Graham Brown Network

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Stewart
Please do share... We are looking at launching an MX480 with RE1800's for BNG functions (PPPOE). I'd really like to haul L2VPN's directly to the box and this feature in 13.2 mentioned may be the solution...;) Paul On 2013-09-24 6:27 PM, Graham Brown juniper-...@grahambrown.info wrote: I've

[j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-17 Thread William Jackson
Gents Theoretical question here: I currently have a setup where I transport PPPoE frames between my xDSL boxes and a centralised BNG. I use one vlan tag per xDSL box aggregator box, so all the subs from a specific box have the same vlan tag. xDSL(vlan tagged Eth)--PE--MPLS

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-17 Thread Paul Stewart
If I understand this correctly we are doing similar today... Today, we have several POP's which have switches with VLAN trunks to various equipment providing PPPOE (fixed wireless, xDSL etc). At those switches, we send a trunk up to an MX router. Each of those VLAN's coming into the MX is

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-17 Thread Adrien Desportes
Hello William, Before 13.2 you would have to use an external loop to terminate the vpls on one side and the ppp on the other side (as lt- interface does not support the proper encapsulation for ppp). Starting 13.2 (that was just released), if you use L2VPN rather than VPLS to backhaul your

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-17 Thread Terebizh, Evgeny
of William Jackson [william.jack...@gibtele.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:39 PM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS Gents Theoretical question here: I currently have a setup where I transport PPPoE frames between my xDSL boxes

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BNG PPPoE inside a VPLS

2013-09-17 Thread Paul Stewart
I don't think that William will require that feature though as he's handing off the traffic just as a VLAN to the BNG (vs having the BNG become a PE router) ? I understood the question to be whether or not there's any issues transporting PPPOE traffic via an L2VPN or VPLS instance .. Maybe I