Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-27 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 08:27:50PM -0700, joe mcguckin wrote: > I recently saw an interesting article that claimed that Cisco consumed > 60-65% of the SFP market and thus was able to > set pricing. Supposedly, Cisco pays about $25 for an SX SFP. Optical > modules represent one of the (if not th

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-27 Thread joe mcguckin
I recently saw an interesting article that claimed that Cisco consumed 60-65% of the SFP market and thus was able to set pricing. Supposedly, Cisco pays about $25 for an SX SFP. Optical modules represent one of the (if not the highest) margin product in their catalog. No wonder they want to v

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:15:32AM -0400, Shane Ronan wrote: > Along these lines, but slightly off topic, what kind of light meters > do you guys use? Search ebay for "optical power meter", you'll find any number of perfectly good 850/1310/1550 handheld meters for around $200. The hardest part

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Shane Ronan
Along these lines, but slightly off topic, what kind of light meters do you guys use? Shane On Sep 25, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:15:16AM -0400, Stefan Fouant wrote: It's expensive to put dB meters on every optical interface, and since these

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:18:44AM -0400, Paul Stewart wrote: > Thanks to everyone for the response. > > I did want to add one last thing to the comment below regarding " you > get what you pay for". We pay just over 10X the price for Juniper > authentic SFP's to date compared to generic. In the

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:15:16AM -0400, Stefan Fouant wrote: > It's expensive to put dB meters on every optical interface, and since these > are cheap commodity based switches those capabilities most likely do not > exist. That most likely explains the reason you did not see any output in > the

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 08:47:11AM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 07:32:12PM +0800, ?? wrote: > > You mean DOM(Digital Optical Monitoring)? it will be added to EX in > > 10.0(2009Q4) > > But not for GE, only 10GE. Not true. It works on GE SFPs with DOM support.

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Paul Stewart
juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Mike Mainer wrote: on M&T routers you always have the command list below to give you light rx/tx levels/thresholds but Juniper removed this command from the EX version of JUNOS. They actually

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Stefan Fouant
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Mike Mainer wrote: > on M&T routers you always have the command list below to give you light > rx/tx levels/thresholds but Juniper removed this command from the EX version > of JUNOS. They actually had the command in early releases (9.2) but it did > not provide

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 05:35:20PM -0400, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hi folks... > > Does anyone know the tolerance of the LH SFP's from Juniper? We are trying > to get an EX3200 switch configured and ready for production - have a case > open at JTAC but haven't been able to resolve. In fairness to t

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 07:32:12PM +0800, ?? wrote: > You mean DOM(Digital Optical Monitoring)? it will be added to EX in > 10.0(2009Q4) But not for GE, only 10GE. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread 陈江
You mean DOM(Digital Optical Monitoring)? it will be added to EX in 10.0(2009Q4) On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Mike Mainer wrote: > on M&T routers you always have the command list below to give you light > rx/tx levels/thresholds but Juniper removed this command from the EX version > of JUNOS

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Mainer
on M&T routers you always have the command list below to give you light rx/tx levels/thresholds but Juniper removed this command from the EX version of JUNOS. They actually had the command in early releases (9.2) but it did not provide any output. I know in 9.4r3.5 Juniper just removed that c

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hi folks... > > Does anyone know the tolerance of the LH SFP's from Juniper? We are trying > to get an EX3200 switch configured and ready for production - have a case > open at JTAC but haven't been able to resolve. In fairness to the JTAC

Re: [j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-24 Thread Brendan Mannella
Set "no negotiate" on the interface. This is most likely the problem. Brendan Mannella On Sep 24, 2009, at 5:35 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: Hi folks... Does anyone know the tolerance of the LH SFP's from Juniper? We are trying to get an EX3200 switch configured and ready for production -

[j-nsp] LX SFP Question

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi folks... Does anyone know the tolerance of the LH SFP's from Juniper? We are trying to get an EX3200 switch configured and ready for production - have a case open at JTAC but haven't been able to resolve. In fairness to the JTAC engineer, I haven't had a lot of time to troubleshoot except for