Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-22 Thread Abhi
-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 07:11:31PM -0700, Doug Hanks wrote: The new MX REs run 64-bit Junos. 64-bit JUNOS != SMP enabled. The only difference is the amount of ram it can address, those fancy quad-core CPUs

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-05 Thread Keegan Holley
And then there was vyatta... Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:59:15PM -0400, jnprb...@gmail.com wrote: Although expensive, you can buy the JCS1200 with 64-bit Junos to run as a standalone RR. It's

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-04 Thread Keegan Holley
10.4R4 seems usable on MX960 with mixed DPC/MPC. There is a packet discard bug on MX80 though - it randomly mistakes non-first fragments as L2TP packets and as no L2TP service is configured, discards those packets. Would you happen to have the PR for this?

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-04 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 01:57:43PM -0400, Keegan Holley wrote: 10.4R4 seems usable on MX960 with mixed DPC/MPC. There is a packet discard bug on MX80 though - it randomly mistakes non-first fragments as L2TP packets and as no L2TP service is configured, discards those packets. Would you

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-04 Thread OBrien, Will
I've had 10.4r4 in my lab MX960 for a couple of weeks now with no real issues, but not much test traffic either. I'm planning to deploy it later this summer to prep for MS-DPC's that are on the way. I do have an odd case of a nat service breaking a filter based policer, but on for Nat'd

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, June 03, 2011 10:10:04 AM Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Price aside, anyone who wants a 12U RE needs to have their head examined. :) How freaking hard can it be to take an off-the-shelf 1U PC, slap a Juniper logo on the front, mark it up 20x like everything else, and sell it to us

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Serge Vautour
alot more MX80s. Thanks, Serge - Original Message From: Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net To: Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 9:10:19 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions On Thu, Jun 02, 2011

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:31:51AM -0700, Serge Vautour wrote: Hello, Would it be possible for you to share what code version you recommend for Trio? We've had a few MX80s in Prod with 10.2S6 for a while now. We need to add MPC cards to our MX960s and are struggling what version to go

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, June 03, 2011 11:31:51 PM Serge Vautour wrote: Would it be possible for you to share what code version you recommend for Trio? We've had a few MX80s in Prod with 10.2S6 for a while now. We need to add MPC cards to our MX960s and are struggling what version to go with. Continue

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:04:09AM +0800, Mark Tinka wrote: One thing to think seriously about is whether you're going to run your MX's with a mixture of DPC's and MPC's. Depending on which features you need to turn on, you may not be able to boot DPC cards if you have MPC's installed as

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Serge Vautour
: Fri, June 3, 2011 1:04:09 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions On Friday, June 03, 2011 11:31:51 PM Serge Vautour wrote: Would it be possible for you to share what code version you recommend for Trio? We've had a few MX80s in Prod with 10.2S6 for a while now. We need to add MPC cards to our

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, June 04, 2011 12:17:15 AM Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Agreed 100%, plus getting line-rate out of a mixed DPC/MPC environment is a real bitch for a number of reasons, so you'll be MUCH better off if you convert a whole chassis at a time. Though I will say that 10.4R4 didn't

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Keegan Holley
2011/6/2 Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:59:15PM -0400, jnprb...@gmail.com wrote: Although expensive, you can buy the JCS1200 with 64-bit Junos to run as a standalone RR. It's probably more economical if you could also benefit from VPNv4 RRs for MPLS VPN

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Derick Winkworth
Thats a very good point.  Vyatta is a solid product. From: Keegan Holley keegan.hol...@sungard.com To: Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions 2011/6/2 Richard

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-03 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:31:51AM -0700, Serge Vautour wrote: Would it be possible for you to share what code version you recommend for Trio? We've had a few MX80s in Prod with 10.2S6 for a while now. We need to add MPC cards to our MX960s and are struggling what version to go with.

[j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Daniel Faubel
Hello all, Could I get some of your opinions about the MX80 platform? I'm looking for positive and negative opinions. Any gotchas I should know about? I've always used the Cisco type of CLI, so there will be a learning curve there. The traffic volume for this application will be 10-15g/sec of

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Doug Hanks
-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Faubel Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 4:09 PM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions Hello all, Could I get some of your opinions about the MX80 platform? I'm looking for positive

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 04:26:54PM -0700, Doug Hanks wrote: Daniel, I have nothing but good things to say about the MX80. I have almost nothing but good things to say, now that 90-95% of the cripling Trio-specific bugs have been worked out of the current code. The integrated RE is probably

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 03/06/11 10:10, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: The integrated RE is probably the biggest design limitation. For example, we just got bit by a bad flash drive on one, which caused the kernel to lock up when writing to the disk. This required a physical That's the bigger problem. As I

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Chris Evans
Or build a redundant re in it. They can make the boards small it enough if they want to... On Jun 2, 2011 8:15 PM, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 04:26:54PM -0700, Doug Hanks wrote: Daniel, I have nothing but good things to say about the MX80. I have

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
I think Juniper's answer to redundancy with the MX80s is to setup 2x MX80's and use routing protocols to switch over from one to the other. For a fully loaded box, it probably edges up on making an MX280 a better deal, but for the smaller software-limited MX80's I could see it being an ok deal.

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Tim Jackson
Juniper would really do well to introduce a 1U small/simple external RE which can be connected over Ethernet, to redundantize a box like the MX80, and to be a reasonably sized BGP route reflector. If there was a like button on j-nsp, I'd click it about this.. Outside of a few bugs we've

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 03/06/11 10:10, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Juniper would really do well to introduce a 1U small/simple external RE which can be connected over Ethernet, to redundantize a box like the MX80, and to be a reasonably sized BGP route reflector. There was talk of a VC-like implementation for

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 11:47:30AM +1000, Julien Goodwin wrote: There was talk of a VC-like implementation for the MX80, although I don't know if that went anywhere. Now that they have the XRE200 what about letting us install Junos64 on it and making it a reflector platform. We actually

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 09:59:15PM -0400, jnprb...@gmail.com wrote: Although expensive, you can buy the JCS1200 with 64-bit Junos to run as a standalone RR. It's probably more economical if you could also benefit from VPNv4 RRs for MPLS VPN deployments. Price aside, anyone who wants a 12U

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Doug Hanks
On 6/2/11 7:06 PM, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote: We actually tested the XRE200 for RR use (since it's a hell of a lot more sane than a JCS), but they specifically lock it down so you can't run BGP on it directly. This is the only JUNOS platform which is SMP enabled right now, and

Re: [j-nsp] MX80 Opinions

2011-06-02 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 07:11:31PM -0700, Doug Hanks wrote: The new MX REs run 64-bit Junos. 64-bit JUNOS != SMP enabled. The only difference is the amount of ram it can address, those fancy quad-core CPUs only run on a single core. :) -- Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net