[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention level higher than "medium"

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||xco...@gmail.com --- Comment #56 from Nate

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention level higher than "medium"

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #55 from b...@whitleymott.net --- i'm puzzled that the focus of this discussion has been on kwin. isn't this a launcher issue? The launcher gets invoked, by mouse or by keyboard, and it may or may not get focus. Seems to me it ought to be

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention level higher than "medium"

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||b...@whitleymott.net --- Comment #54 from Nate

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention level higher than "medium"

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|KWin prevents Application |KWin prevents Application

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

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[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

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[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||avaman...@gmail.com --- Comment #52 from Nate

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

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[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

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[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

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[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

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[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

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[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #50 from r...@alum.mit.edu --- Reference bug 394934. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #49 from r...@alum.mit.edu --- (In reply to Theo from comment #48) > It gets more interesting. When I click first on the activity manager widget, > which also works, and then on the app launcher, the app launcher will not be > suppressed. Or

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #48 from Theo --- (In reply to rlk from comment #45) > So interestingly enough if I click on the device notifier icon its window > *does* pop up. So what's the difference between the device notifier and the > application menu? It gets

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #47 from Martin Flöser --- (In reply to rlk from comment #45) > So interestingly enough if I click on the device notifier icon its window > *does* pop up. So what's the difference between the device notifier and the > application menu?

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #46 from r...@alum.mit.edu --- Is the problem perhaps that the application launcher is assuming that it gets focus immediately, and pops down when it doesn't get it? If so, it sounds like the problem is with the application launcher, not

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #45 from r...@alum.mit.edu --- So interestingly enough if I click on the device notifier icon its window *does* pop up. So what's the difference between the device notifier and the application menu? -- You are receiving this mail because:

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #44 from r...@alum.mit.edu --- Thank you for the explanation. Providing that up front would have saved a lot of headaches. It wouldn't have solved the immediate problem, but it at least would have given useful background. It does,

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #43 from Martin Flöser --- It would be great if users would not do any assumptions on the complexity of a change. Shipping a window rule obviously does not solve the issue. Shipping a window rule would affect all users

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #42 from r...@alum.mit.edu --- Comment #40 really makes my blood boil. Reduced to its essentials, "it doesn't matter how much pain it's causing the users, the rules come first". I will admit that there are times when the rules are there

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #41 from Theo --- (In reply to Martin Flöser from comment #39) > (In reply to Theo from comment #37) > > Is the panel I intact with being unfocused relevant to the problem of the > > app launcher not getting the focus?

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Martin Flöser changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|normal |wishlist --- Comment #40

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #39 from Martin Flöser --- (In reply to Theo from comment #37) > (In reply to Martin Flöser from comment #12) > > First of all let's have a look at what the help provides: "New windows get > > activated only if no window

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #38 from r...@alum.mit.edu --- The behavior may be correct according to the spec and the implementation of the panel (as a window that never gets focus), but it's completely nonsensical from a user perspective to have core functionality

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #37 from Theo --- (In reply to Martin Flöser from comment #12) > First of all let's have a look at what the help provides: "New windows get > activated only if no window is currently active or if they belong to the >

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Martin Flöser changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #35 from Martin Flöser --- (In reply to Roman Gilg from comment #33) > This seems to be only a problem on X. Is focus stealing prevention on > Wayland not yet implemented or is there another reason for that? Focus

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Emmanuel Revah changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Roman Gilg changed: What|Removed |Added CC||subd...@gmail.com --- Comment

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Theo changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|WONTFIX |--- CC|

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

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[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #31 from r...@alum.mit.edu --- If this could be implemented by providing a window-specific rule, perhaps the bug could be fixed by distributing that rule with either the Plasma or kwin base package. But it needs to apply to anything --

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #30 from Nate Graham --- > As I mentioned a few times in this bug report: create a window specific rule > for plasma to bypass focus stealing prevention. I think the objection here is that it doesn't seem reasonable

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Martin Flöser changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kdde.rhn@porcupinefactory.o

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #28 from Martin Flöser --- > Is it possible to write an exception rule to the effect of "all windows > created by a click on the panel or by a right mouse click on the desktop, get > focus"? As I mentioned a few times

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Sebastian Kügler changed: What|Removed |Added CC|se...@kde.org | -- You are receiving this

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 r...@alum.mit.edu changed: What|Removed |Added CC||r...@alum.mit.edu --- Comment #27 from

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #26 from Martin Flöser --- @Thomas: there simply is no usability problem here. This feature exists for > 10 years (which also means I did not design or implement it) and works with the constraints for the same time. This

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Thomas Pfeiffer changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #24 from Sebastian Kügler --- I'm aware that a solution to this problem means marking these windows in some way, not a biggie in my opinion, but maybe the most straightforward fix is to mark these windows as belonging to the

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #23 from Nate Graham --- For me, Kickoff works just fine with Focus Follows Mouse as well as Focus Strictly Under Mouse. I agree with Sebastian. We are arguing over technical details that it is unreasonable to expect

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Martin Flöser changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|WORKSFORME |WONTFIX --- Comment #22

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Sebastian Kügler changed: What|Removed |Added CC||se...@kde.org --- Comment

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #20 from Nikos Chantziaras --- With the same maintainer closing another bugs and claiming "it's a feature", it's kind of difficult to not get mad at that person: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377913 > We all want

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #19 from Valorie Zimmerman --- Here is the thing, folks. When a maintainer closes a bug report, users should not open that bug report again, whether they feel that their point is valid, or not. Maintainers are

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #18 from Nate Graham --- Martin, you're being really rude. Having this kind of experience is the sort of thing that turns people off a project for good. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Martin Flöser changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #16 from Nikos Chantziaras --- Why are you trying to trigger me all the time? First with arrogance, then with this. Do you have something against me? I assure you this is nothing personal. -- You are receiving this mail

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #15 from Martin Flöser --- @Nikos: if Windows works better for you consider using it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Nikos Chantziaras changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Valorie Zimmerman changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Martin Flöser changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #11 from Nate Graham --- Let's not let our tempers get in the way of creating incredible software for the world. We've all got the same goals here! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #10 from Martin Flöser --- For your information I forwarded this bug to the KDE community working group. You can reopen the bug as often as you won't, but I'm out of here. This bug won't be fixed because I won't do it

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #9 from Nate Graham --- Nikos, I understand that you're frustrated, but please refrain from using sarcasm and insults. That's a sure way to get people to ignore you, even when you're right. Martin, I feel that you're

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Nikos Chantziaras changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #7 from Nikos Chantziaras --- Brilliant. Very smart design choices by the KDE team. You have my congratulations. We need more people like you. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Martin Flöser changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #5 from Martin Flöser --- (In reply to Nikos Chantziaras from comment #4) > I would like to add that if I click on the application launcher, I am giving > it focus. So it should open. No you don't. You click the panel

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #4 from Nikos Chantziaras --- I would like to add that if I click on the application launcher, I am giving it focus. So it should open. Focus stealing prevention is for preventing stuff you didn't click on from getting

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||pointedst...@zoho.com

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 --- Comment #2 from Nikos Chantziaras --- I completely disagree, but whatever. It's a broken design for the desktop environment to be completely unaware of itself. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug

[kwin] [Bug 377914] KWin prevents Application Launcher from opening when using focus stealing prevention

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377914 Martin Gräßlin changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME