Re: [kde-community] Wikis uneditable

2016-02-15 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 11:48 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > Hi Ben, Hi Jaroslaw, > > It seems that techbase isn't locked. There were a few acts of > vandalism too: https://techbase.kde.org/Special:Log/delete Techbase should definitely be locked for normal user editing. It is

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, February 15, 2016 9:48:18 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 14:00:45 Alexander Dymo wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Martin Graesslin > > wrote: > > > That's what we have been doing the last few years, so where are they? > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, February 15, 2016 10:22:20 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 15:11:47 Martin Graesslin wrote: > ... > > > Maybe you could start thinking about that. What does it mean if THE GUI > > maintainer doesn't want that? Maybe he has a better look on it with THE >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:37:49 CET Laszlo Papp wrote: > In which case, what if digital life is not the future? If the world goes completely back to pen and paper, I fear KDE becomes obsolete, because I don't think we could adapt to that world.

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:49:58 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:49:58 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Monday, February 15, 2016 15:11:47 Martin Graesslin wrote: ... > Maybe you could start thinking about that. What does it mean if THE GUI > maintainer doesn't want that? Maybe he has a better look on it with THE GUI > knowledge? > > Please don't completely dismiss my feedback. Think about it.

Re: [kde-community] Community vision and product vision

2016-02-15 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:41:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: ... > Now the thing is: As many of you surely already know, I'm a big fan of > product visions. Whenever I start working with a community within KDE, the > first thing I ask is "Do we have a product vision yet?", and if the answer > is

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 15 February 2016 at 20:40, Alexander Dymo wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:51 AM, A. Spehr wrote: > > "World domination through free software." > > > > Maybe that's too flippant, or more the vision of Linux and not KDE, but > that > > was my first thought

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Alexander Dymo
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote: > That's what we have been doing the last few years, so where are they? Where > are the devs taking our application to mobile, etc. etc. KF(5) has barely reached the point where it's usable on mobile devices. Before it

Re: [kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions

2016-02-15 Thread Alexander Dymo
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:50 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote: >> Maybe GUI -> UI would solve that. Or "primary focus is the UI". > Would be much better. It at least doesn't exclude things like speech > recognition. +1 to the UI > Using a simple example: today I created a GSoC

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Alexander Dymo
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:51 AM, A. Spehr wrote: > "World domination through free software." > > Maybe that's too flippant, or more the vision of Linux and not KDE, but that > was my first thought as I glanced at this in the middle of the night, while > half asleep. Who doesn't

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Monday 15 February 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Hi everyone, > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > have now put this into a second draft. It reads as follows: > "KDE creates

Re: [kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions

2016-02-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 15 February 2016 at 19:12, Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Sunday 14 February 2016 23:57:56 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 13:12:52 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer wrote: > > > I agree that

Re: [kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions

2016-02-15 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Sunday 14 February 2016 23:57:56 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 13:12:52 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer wrote: > > I agree that integration within our projects is important. And I > > believe it has suffered lately

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, February 15, 2016 2:31:09 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > Ok. > I doubt anybody wants to fight about the definition, whether its the vision, > or the mission, or the product vision, or vision+mission combined. > > What our group wants to have, is getting some more attention back to

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread A. Spehr
On Feb 15, 2016 5:30 AM, "Alexander Neundorf" wrote: > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 21:35:22 Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > On Monday 08 February 2016 17:07:26 Alexander Dymo wrote: > ... > > > Defining it in writing as the goal of KDE adds neither value nor > > > attractiveness to

Re: [kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go from here?

2016-02-15 Thread Ivan Čukić
> As I regularly complain: count me in ;-) Me as well. Cheers, Ivan ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community

Re: [kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions

2016-02-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, February 15, 2016 9:06:48 AM CET Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > On 15 February 2016 at 07:54, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > On Sunday, February 14, 2016 11:57:56 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > >> > I agree that integration within our projects is important. And I > >> >

Re: [kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go

2016-02-15 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi Jonathan, > Right, from the KDE neon FAQ: Unfortunately, FAQ is not enough, this is something that we will have to repeat over and over again. There will be some trolls who will post that this is 'the kde distro', and some people will believe him, and spread the word (because, nowadays, every

Re: [kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions

2016-02-15 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 15 February 2016 at 07:54, Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Sunday, February 14, 2016 11:57:56 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: >> > I agree that integration within our projects is important. And I >> > believe it has suffered lately as the cohesion inside KDE became less. >> >