On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 05:13:58PM +, Bruno Guedes Souto wrote:
> This was a great discussion, until you guys started feeding the troll again.
It seems like a lot of people here don't get it and continue to keep basically
repeating themselves.
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Nick Krause wrote:
>
>> ... like to improve my rep with a tutor or someone who is willing to
>> be my router to the community ...
>
> there is no sane human being that would offer to be a tutor or
> mentor (a reques
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Nick Krause wrote:
> ... like to improve my rep with a tutor or someone who is willing to
> be my router to the community ...
there is no sane human being that would offer to be a tutor or
mentor (a request you've made before) or "router" to someone who
absolutely refuses
e stranger on the internet is going to be your
tutor? Unless you belong to some minority, you shouldn't be waiting for
a tutor to take your hand and guide you... that's probably not going to
happen. Apply the advice that's been already given to you, e.g. read the
old mails and write each advice dow
Am 2014-09-17 19:47, schrieb Nick Krause:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Bruno Guedes Souto
> wrote:
>> This was a great discussion, until you guys started feeding the troll again.
>>
>> Can we just stop feeding the troll? He will prob go way...
>>
>> If every *single* time that Nick posts so
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Bruno Guedes Souto
wrote:
> This was a great discussion, until you guys started feeding the troll again.
>
> Can we just stop feeding the troll? He will prob go way...
>
> If every *single* time that Nick posts something you reply to him it will only
> lead to more
This was a great discussion, until you guys started feeding the troll again.
Can we just stop feeding the troll? He will prob go way...
If every *single* time that Nick posts something you reply to him it will only
lead to more replies from him saying he will get better, understand what he is
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:39 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:02:01 -0400, nick said:
>> it off , if not I would like to known exactly where I am wrong so I can
>> learn.
>
> Somebody wake me up when he actually *means* that.
>
Valdis,
I understand that was what he stated I was looking into
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:02:01 -0400, nick said:
> it off , if not I would like to known exactly where I am wrong so I can learn.
Somebody wake me up when he actually *means* that.
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:09:36 -0400, nick said:
> On 14-09-17 08:05 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> > I don't know that chunk of code, but error messages that go to the kernel
> > log exist for a specific reason. Taking them out requires a specific
> > reason.
> >
> > Ie. This would make a good commi
On September 17, 2014 8:09:36 AM EDT, nick wrote:
>
>
>On 14-09-17 08:05 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
>>
>>
>> On September 17, 2014 7:53:24 AM EDT, nick
>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14-09-17 07:51 AM, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM, nick wrote:
>
>
> On 14-09-
On 14-09-17 08:17 AM, Kai Bojens wrote:
> On 17-09-14 08:09:36, nick wrote:
>
> [Again quoting everything]
>
> Please read and understand this:
>
> -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#How_much_to_trim
>
> Your replies are unreadable to me as I don't intend to scroll down
> several p
> Because in general we don't use asserts in the kernel. I'm sure I've used
> 10,000s of asserts in user space over the decades. Zero in the kernel.
>
> Specifically, in user space when writing code we can put asserts throughout
> the code that will cause an immediate code explosion if unexpecte
On 17-09-14 08:09:36, nick wrote:
[Again quoting everything]
Please read and understand this:
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#How_much_to_trim
Your replies are unreadable to me as I don't intend to scroll down
several pages just to read the one line you added as an answer. If
you
On 14-09-17 08:17 AM, Chris Lee wrote:
>>
>> Rday,
>> I meant I didn't understand the code not the effect to write good solid
>> patches and learn it.
>> Please read my messages more carefully.
>> Nick
>>
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> Rday,
> I meant I didn't understand the code not the effect to write good solid
> patches and learn it.
> Please read my messages more carefully.
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On 14-09-17 08:05 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
>
>
> On September 17, 2014 7:53:24 AM EDT, nick wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 14-09-17 07:51 AM, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM, nick wrote:
On 14-09-17 07:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>>
> anyway, it's time
On 14-09-17 08:00 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Greg Freemyer wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On September 17, 2014 7:20:42 AM EDT, "Robert P. J. Day"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> and, as we've all seen, nick's other flaw is that, quite simply,
>>> he's selfish and greedy. his entire obsessio
On September 17, 2014 7:53:24 AM EDT, nick wrote:
>
>
>On 14-09-17 07:51 AM, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM, nick wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14-09-17 07:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>
anyway, it's time for coffee.
rday
>>> Rday and others,
>>> Tha
On 14-09-17 07:56 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
>
>
> On September 17, 2014 7:20:42 AM EDT, "Robert P. J. Day"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> and, as we've all seen, nick's other flaw is that, quite simply,
>> he's selfish and greedy. his entire obsession is with the output of
>> checkpatch, which means he wa
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Greg Freemyer wrote:
>
>
> On September 17, 2014 7:20:42 AM EDT, "Robert P. J. Day"
> wrote:
>
> >
> > and, as we've all seen, nick's other flaw is that, quite simply,
> >he's selfish and greedy. his entire obsession is with the output of
> >checkpatch, which means he want
On September 17, 2014 7:20:42 AM EDT, "Robert P. J. Day"
wrote:
>
> and, as we've all seen, nick's other flaw is that, quite simply,
>he's selfish and greedy. his entire obsession is with the output of
>checkpatch, which means he wants to grab all the trivial cleanup (the
>low-hanging fruit,
On 14-09-17 07:53 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> what did i say? what did i just say? i wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, nick wrote:
>> On 14-09-17 07:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>>
>>> and, as we've all seen, nick's other flaw is that, quite simply,
>>> he's selfish and greedy. his ent
what did i say? what did i just say? i wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, nick wrote:
> On 14-09-17 07:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> > and, as we've all seen, nick's other flaw is that, quite simply,
> > he's selfish and greedy. his entire obsession is with the output
> > of checkpatch, which
On 14-09-17 07:51 AM, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM, nick wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 14-09-17 07:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
>>> anyway, it's time for coffee.
>>>
>>> rday
>>>
>> Rday and others,
>> That's not what I wanted I was trying to improve my rep after getting
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM, nick wrote:
>
>
> On 14-09-17 07:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>> anyway, it's time for coffee.
>>
>> rday
>>
> Rday and others,
> That's not what I wanted I was trying to improve my rep after getting banned
> from vger.org and now it seems
> I can't even get
On 14-09-17 07:20 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Greg KH wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:42:18PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>>> (And this sort of analysis is exactly *why* people need to apply their
>>> brains
>>> when looking at checkpatch output)
>>
>
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:42:18PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> > (And this sort of analysis is exactly *why* people need to apply their
> > brains
> > when looking at checkpatch output)
>
> No one has ever said that they shouldn't.
>
> Remembe
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:42:18PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> > (And this sort of analysis is exactly *why* people need to apply their
> > brains
> > when looking at checkpatch output)
>
> No one has ever said that they shouldn't.
>
> Remembe
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:42:18PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>> (And this sort of analysis is exactly *why* people need to apply their brains
>> when looking at checkpatch output)
>
> No one has ever said that they shouldn't.
>
> R
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:42:18PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> (And this sort of analysis is exactly *why* people need to apply their brains
> when looking at checkpatch output)
No one has ever said that they shouldn't.
Remember, I know _lots_ of kernel developers who started with
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:35:35 -0500, Greg Donald said:
> fs/* currently contains 96,375 errors and 22,555 warnings.
[/usr/src/linux-next] find fs -type f -name '*.[ch]' | xargs cat | wc -l
1138557
96K errors seemed to be a tad high. So.. doublechecking..
[/usr/src/linux-next] for i in `find
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Valdis Kletnieks
wrote:
> In general, stand-alone patches to "fix" checkpatch whining are a Bad
> Idea(TM).
That's just YOUR opinion. GregKH actually made a presentation to help
us n00bs do exactly that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLBrBBImJt4
And he has b
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 08:25:51PM -0400, Valdis Kletnieks wrote:
> In general, stand-alone patches to "fix" checkpatch whining are a Bad
> Idea(TM).
And here's why checkpatch patches are a "Good Idea(TM)":
- it teaches you how to set up your email client properly
- it teaches you how to de
In general, stand-alone patches to "fix" checkpatch whining are a Bad Idea(TM).
Here's why...
First off, the type of programmer who is tempted to do checkpatch cleanup
as "My First Kernel Patch" are, by and large, novices.
The code in the kernel falls into one of several states of use and stabil
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