Re: [Kicad-developers] Kicad annoyances and niggles

2015-09-05 Thread David J S Briscoe
On 01/09/2015 09:28, jp charras wrote: Le 31/08/2015 21:25, David J S Briscoe a écrit : I've just been playing with V6132 of PCBNEW. I have a number of small observations. 1/ In the layer manager toolbar the Top and Bottom layer are named Composant and Cuivre. Why is this even though I am

Re: [Kicad-developers] [FreeEDA] Requesting your co-operation new version of Oscad, a free and open source EDA tool

2015-09-05 Thread timofonic timofonic
That's very interesting! Despite of Proteus quirks, cost and limitations, I liked somewhat the integrated approach. Is the circuit simulator switchable? There's another project called QUCS, it's very promising and has some interesting stuff too. On Sep 4, 2015 7:02 AM, "Oscad Team"

[Kicad-developers] eeschema netlist exporter drops net from power symbol in netlist file - wrong def or bug?

2015-09-05 Thread Daniel Dawid Majewski
I have got custom schema library(attached with rename, gmail does not love „.lib” extension), which contains following symbol: # # HVS # DEF HVS #PWR 0 0 N N 1 F P F0 "#PWR" 0 -20 20 H I C CNN F1 "HVS" 0 -70 20 H V C CNN F2 "" 0 0 60 H V C CNN F3 "" 0 0 60 H V C CNN DRAW P 8 0 1 0 -40 -30 40

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread Jacob Schmidt
is remarkably unintuitive; making a footprint is EASY, saving it is HARD. Where is the unintuitive part? Select library, save footprint; end of the story. Slightly more complex if you use the master board repository approach (see manual for that). The "Select" button sends us to the "Library

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread Jacob Schmidt
is remarkably unintuitive; making a footprint is EASY, saving it is HARD. Where is the unintuitive part? Select library, save footprint; end of the story. Slightly more complex if you use the master board repository approach (see manual for that). I'll try to get a video together showing

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread Jacob Schmidt
Maybe some of the problems I'm seeing that I've shown in my video are troubles with my build... Linux gap 2.6.32-74-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 28 10:03:02 UTC 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux Application: kicad Version: (2015-09-03 BZR 6154)-product release build wxWidgets: Version 3.0.0

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread Jacob Schmidt
Well you are not supposed to select each footprint from eeschema field dialog; that's for minor modification (like for the d'oh, that resistor needs to be bigger if I don't want a flaming ball of fire situations...) The cvpcb panel is still the main association tool IIRC. You know what would

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 05.09.2015, 17:27, from Jacob Schmidt: I wish I had a video of me just now trying to make, save, and use a new footprint. The crux of the problem, as I see it, is the Library editor is remarkably unintuitive; making a footprint is EASY, saving it is HARD. The

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:54:37 +0200, LordBlick wrote: > I must give you a hope - cvpbc still exist in eeschema toolbar, but results of > work are saved in schematic project. After that export netlist to pcbnew… Except that it only works/appears only if you launch it from the project manager. For

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 05.09.2015, 18:17, from Lorenzo Marcantonio: Except that it only works/appears only if you launch it from the project manager. For some unknown reason since it already has everything it needs even when used standalone :( I think it is unacceptable, in fact

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:27:54 +0200, Jacob Schmidt wrote: > Long on the list, devs have been asking for cmp files to go away, and > cvpcb to become less prominent as a method for assigning footprints to > components. I am totally fine with that. In fact cmp files are no longer here. I party-ed

[Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread Jacob Schmidt
This is going to sound like a rant, because it is. Don't stop reading because you think you know what I'm going to say, please. Long on the list, devs have been asking for cmp files to go away, and cvpcb to become less prominent as a method for assigning footprints to components. I am totally

Re: [Kicad-developers] cvpcb alternative

2015-09-05 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 18:37:52 +0200, LordBlick wrote: > I think it is unacceptable, in fact for user cvpcb is reduced to some kind of > eeschema dialog, so it should be enabled in standalone mode too. I already discussed previously about that on the list. IIRC there was something about accessing

[Kicad-developers] Ownership semantics for EDA_DRAW_FRAME::m_currentScreen

2015-09-05 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, I'm trying to figure out who is owning the *_SCREEN object pointed to by EDA_DRAW_FRAME::m_currentScreen. In EDA_DRAW_FRAME::~EDA_DRAW_FRAME(), the object pointed to is deleted, which suggests to me that the draw frame has some sort of ownership, however this will only delete the last object

[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Use CMake provided tests for -fvisibility

2015-09-05 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, CMake provides a readymade test for the GCC/CLang -fvisibility= flag. This removes our own test and uses the result from CMake. I've left the test for "NOT APPLE" in place -- is there a particular reason why we do that? Simon --- CMakeLists.txt | 16

Re: [Kicad-developers] Kicad annoyances and niggles

2015-09-05 Thread timofonic timofonic
I have some suggestions and ideas after stable release. Sorry if I explain them wrong, I hope not! - Why KiCad depends on a practically dead project such as FreeRoute? It's taken down by Zuken and even adds Java as a dependency, that's a major annoyance. * What about a similar plugin approach

[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Clarify ownership semantics

2015-09-05 Thread Simon Richter
SCREEN objects are typically owned by the DRAW_FRAME they are attached to. SCH_SCREEN objects may additionally be shared between one DRAW_FRAME, and multiple SCH_SHEET objects, so they are reference counted. To make this distinction more obvious, and avoid potential errors, move the pointer

Re: [Kicad-developers] Kicad annoyances and niggles

2015-09-05 Thread Chris Pavlina
On Sep 6, 2015 00:00, "timofonic timofonic" wrote: > > I have some suggestions and ideas after stable release. Sorry if I explain them wrong, I hope not! > > - Why KiCad depends on a practically dead project such as FreeRoute? It's taken down by Zuken and even adds Java as a

[Kicad-developers] 3D refactoring news

2015-09-05 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
Hi Folks, The 3D refactoring branch now has a very minimal test program with a simple window. At the moment the test program instantiates the 3D Model Manager which in turn loads a plugin. When the menu item File->Select is activated a message pops up which shows the user the loaded plugins and