Re: [Kicad-developers] 6.0 Zone filling differences

2019-06-21 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Wayne, Except in very hugh frequency design (higher UHF spectrum, microwaves and millimeter waves) were chamfers can create more problems than they solve. This chamfer should be user optional, the best being individual part layout optional. Just my extra data point, Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Jun

Re: [Kicad-developers] Immediate actions

2019-06-14 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Jeff,In your case of moving a part, it would be better to select move tool, move one or more parts, then dismiss to return to routing. In complex boards, routing a trace often involve moving more than one part. Just my two cents after using cad tools for 30 years. Jean-Paul N1JPL  Sent from Yaho

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cost of different courtyard elements for the closed outline and DRC algorithms

2019-01-01 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Seith, Let me strongly disagree with you. When you have a board with over 3000 SMT parts, rounded courtyards would be a disaster. I have build a lot of board with over 4000 parts, and that is not unreasonable in the professional world, So if you want to limit the use of Kicad to hobbyist, it is

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cost of different courtyard elements for the closed outline and DRC algorithms

2019-01-01 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Happy New Year everyone, On the topic of courtyard shapes, I think that a lot of people totally misunderstands the purpose of it. It is only intended to be used as a no-fly zone for the tools used by automated placement machines. So the use of arcs for corners is useless at best except for a ful

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-21 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Adam, It should be easy to add a README file in the dmg package. I have seen quite a few apps that have a README file you can open before moving the main app to the Applications folder. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Jun 21, 2018, at 10:52 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > I am pretty concerned a

Re: [Kicad-developers] More default fields in schematic

2018-05-20 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
That discussion once again shows how people misunderstand the concept of part number. In a schematic, the part number attached to a RefDes should be unique AND NOT a manufacturer number. There should be a one to one relationship between a part number (symbol) and a physical shape, so the PCB w

Re: [Kicad-developers] Lib maintainers request help for reviewing installation script changes

2018-03-22 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I Have a question for the OS X developers here. Are you using Xcode to build KiCAD? I would like to get started on building KiCAD with Xcode, so I am looking for some clues or advice if this is not possible/practical. Thanks to all of you for a great product. Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Mar 22, 2018

Re: [Kicad-developers] Libedit and Modedit Icons

2018-01-08 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Oliver, I usually try not to criticize someone else hard work, but these six top icons are for me the worst I ever saw. Let me qualify. My eyes are not like the ones of a teenager, so the extreme lack of contrast make them to me very hard to read. The only one that at first glance make sense to me

Re: [Kicad-developers] terms clarification

2017-11-25 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
issue, and I am not sure how KiCAD can address it with the current state of design. Best regards, Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Nov 25, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Andy Peters wrote: > > > >> On Nov 25, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: >> >> Andy, >> &g

Re: [Kicad-developers] terms clarification

2017-11-25 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Andy, I disagree with your statement that component and part are the same thing. A component is a term used for the generic part, like a 10k resistor, a 7474 digital IC, a 741 op amp, etc.. A part on the opposite side is a one to one relationship, unique to a single supplier. So you cannot mix

Re: [Kicad-developers] Component table improvements

2017-05-13 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Stevn, My position in term of electronic design is 180 degrees from yours. When many engineering hours are spent design a manufacturable board, you do not want some bean counter change the BOM in a whim. So in order to control the proper life of a design, you want the schematic to contain the exac

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI improvements

2017-03-23 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Long before computer CAD software, we used Symbol for the schematic, and footprint or package for the physical device. What is a good reason to go away from that? Just my $0.02 Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Heiko Rosemann wrote: > > I strongly believe that's because many peop

Re: [Kicad-developers] Patch to compile _pcbnew.kiface only once

2017-03-16 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I agree 150% with Bernhard. A disabled Python is 150% better than no new build at all. I do not understand why OS X users are considered second class citizens. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Mar 16, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Bernhard Stegmaier > wrote: > > I have just seen people on the forum

Re: [Kicad-developers] [RFC] Standard field for manufacturer part number in schematic symbols

2016-12-20 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I see a lot of confusion here between what is a schematic part. usually a circuit is designed around a specific part, i.e. a Texas NE555 in SO8 package. This part has a very specific set of parameters, and a similar part from another manufacturer, i.e. Fairchild might have some parameters that mak

Re: [Kicad-developers] Release 4.0.5 tagged.

2016-12-11 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
a few months behind getting the OSX packages signed, but I have a new > baby in the house, so it's not like I've been screwing around on Facebook :) > > Kicad is pretty awesome, folks. Thanks everyone. > > On Dec 11, 2016 8:39 PM, "Jean-Paul Louis" wrote: >

Re: [Kicad-developers] Release 4.0.5 tagged.

2016-12-11 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Thank you Adam for all the work you did to help us common mortals to have easy access to KiCAD on OS X. Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Dec 11, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : ki

[Kicad-developers] KiCAD developpers rock!

2016-11-17 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
You guys rock. Look at the article on Hackaday. http://hackaday.com/2016/11/17/creating-a-pcb-in-everything-kicad-part-1/ Jean-Paul N1JPL ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Uns

Re: [Kicad-developers] OS X 10.12 Sierra (uh, macOS Sierra) observation

2016-11-15 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Andy, Did you use any specific setup? My macbook doesn’t do what you describe. I use a 15” Macbook pro with retina display (2014) that I keep updated. I loaded Sierra, but still have separate windows for project, eeschema, pcbnew. I hope some expert on Apple stuff can explain the difference. Jean

Re: [Kicad-developers] GAL canvas.

2016-11-12 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
release.  A large chunk of it is complete but there are still a few missing pieces. On 11/11/2016 9:32 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > Just curious. When will the GAL canvas have all the legacy features > (not counting the GAL unique features like P&S and other new stuff)? > > Or I mis

Re: [Kicad-developers] GAL canvas.

2016-11-11 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Just curious. When will the GAL canvas have all the legacy features (not counting the GAL unique features like P&S and other new stuff)? Or I missed the bus, and that’s already done. Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Nov 11, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > I don't remember if I made it officia

Re: [Kicad-developers] Version strings in window titles

2016-09-09 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Chris, The version in the Window title is great in the project window, so you know how far from the latest builds your current version is. On eeschema, there is no version while there is one on pcbnew so the best would be to keep it on the project window, and remove from the other windows. Appli

Re: [Kicad-developers] New stable version.

2016-06-07 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
june 2nd in the testing folder due to c++11 > issues, They should resume past that soon though, just solving issues > with stable builds > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 5:50 AM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: >> Hi Adam, >> >> Yesterday, I wanted to update my OS X Kicad with the

Re: [Kicad-developers] New stable version.

2016-06-07 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Adam, Yesterday, I wanted to update my OS X Kicad with the lated nightly, and I could not find anything more recent than May 6th. What happened to the nightlies? Just curious, Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > There's still at least a minor problem--the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Net Ties

2016-04-22 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
talking about is real life PCBs. My $0.02, Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Apr 22, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > "I can think of a hackish way to do it so you shouldn't implement a good, > proper way" > > No. Please. Don't. > > On Fri, Apr 22, 201

Re: [Kicad-developers] Net Ties

2016-04-22 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
ce maintaining clear ground net > partitioning is one key factor. > And with this system in mind there are use cases where up to 4 ground nets > meet at one point. > > Regards, > André > > On April 22, 2016 10:28:41 PM GMT+02:00, Jean-Paul Louis > wrote: > Andr

Re: [Kicad-developers] Net Ties

2016-04-22 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
André, Please give us an example where you would need to connect more than 2 nets. I understand perfectly the net tie for connecting Analog Ground to digital ground somewhere in a PCB, but I have hard time to figure out a case where you would need more then 2 nets. For AGND to DGND, a simple 0 o

Re: [Kicad-developers] New pcbnew features and versioning

2016-04-07 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
If there are more than one commit in a given day, add a lower case alpha to the timestamp like 20160407, then 20160407a, then 20160407b, and so on. Just my $0.02 Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Apr 7, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > I like it. It's more meaningful than an integer. The onl

Re: [Kicad-developers] PATCH: Set SMD attribute in footprint wizard

2016-02-16 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Today, the smallest SMD chip is the 01005 which is 0.010”x0.005”, which in metric units is about 0.25mmx0.125mm(0.13mm). using a grid of 0.05mm will drive the courtyard to be odd shaped in relation to the part. I would suggest to be able to lower the grid resolution to 0.01mm to deal with these

Re: [Kicad-developers] update on 3D stuff

2016-02-03 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Cirilo and Mario, Thumb up for a job well done! I’m sure you will solve the lighting issue. Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Cirilo Bernardo wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Just a quick update on more recent 3D developments. With some suggestions > from Mario the normals calculations

Re: [Kicad-developers] Slow performance in pcbnew (PNS/GAL only) on high-fanout nets

2016-02-02 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Checking for overlapping courtyard areas should be the first task of DRC, as there is no point checking for any other type of error if parts overlap (non manufacturable). But that feature will also need a switch to turn it off on very specific instances. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Feb 2

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Fix typing problems with GR_KB_* constants

2016-01-19 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Bernhard, I do not think that it is a problem with wxWidget. It might be a peculiarity of OS X. There are a lot of applications that exhibit the same behavior. I have no idea why OS X keyboard needs to use the command key when the MacBook keyboard has both the “Apple command key” and a control k

Re: [Kicad-developers] New development policies.

2015-12-17 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Is there a place where we can find the list of features that are Legacy only? That should help to focus on porting those features to GAL / Cairo. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul N1JPL / ex AC9GH > On Dec 17, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Timofonic wrote: > > Are there plans to make an official deadline to make Ki

Re: [Kicad-developers] CMake version.

2015-12-07 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Adam, I updated my Port today, Jean-Pauls-MacBook-Pro:~ jean-paullouis$ sudo port selfupdate followed by Jean-Pauls-MacBook-Pro:~ jean-paullouis$ sudo port upgrade outdated and the update moved cmake to 3.4.1. Jean-Pauls-MacBook-Pro:~ jean-paullouis$ cmake --version cmake version 3.4.1 CMake

Re: [Kicad-developers] CMake version.

2015-12-07 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Jean-Pauls-MacBook-Pro:~ jean-paullouis$ cmake --version cmake version 3.4.0 CMake suite maintained and supported by Kitware (kitware.com/cmake). > On Dec 7, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > We currently have the minimum CMake version set to 2.8.4 which was > release in February o

Re: [Kicad-developers] In AUTHORS.txt, I am counted twice.

2015-11-19 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I agree with Cirillo, an unique file called AUTHORS (or AUTHORS.txt for Windows users) is preferable, as it can be referenced in the About dialog with a link, so you have the best of both world, and only one place to update when there are any changes. Also, you can change the list of contributor

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bug #1511552 - export of Spice net-list from EESchema

2015-11-11 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I am coming late in the discussion as I didn’t see the point at first. Having delt with the professional Electronic Engineering world for the past 40 years, I heard many sides of the same story. I agree with Wayne and JP, KiCAD is not designed to be a simulator, but could be a nice interface to t

Re: [Kicad-developers] Eagle to KiCad conversion script, need comments.. good bad.. etc

2015-10-23 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Lachian, Your project seems to be nice, but I think that it can only be used as an Eagle script (ULP). I do not use Eagle anymore, but from time to time, I want to import an Eagle design available on the net. Do you have a program that can run stand-alone, and generate a Kicad design from the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Drawing arcs broken in pcbnew and footprint editor?

2015-10-20 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I agree with Stephano, we should have two tools for arcs, as sometime starting with the center is preferred, but more often start/end then center is better suited. My $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Oct 20, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > > What do you mean by two different tools? >

Re: [Kicad-developers] A question for library devs.

2015-10-01 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Wayne, Historically, the through-hole parts were always referenced of the pin 1, because through-hole IC placement machines did not have vision systems (we’re talking about 1970’s. Only with the advent of SMT, placement machines started to use vacuum nozzles and later vision, so it became more

Re: [Kicad-developers] HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC: Possible KiCad cousins?

2015-09-21 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I have no knowledge of Heeks products. For my 3D needs when designing an enclosure, I use OpenSCAD that does everything I need and is free and maintained. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Sep 21, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Cirilo Bernardo > wrote: > > When I checked HeeksCAD more than 2 years ago

Re: [Kicad-developers] 3D shapes downloader wizard?

2015-09-21 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
While I am not a heavy user of 3D shapes, I strongly agree with Wayne. The 3D shapes should be part of the Extra package, and the downloader tool used only for updates. This can be tricky as I do not know what kind of rev control is installed on the library. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > O

Re: [Kicad-developers] Block select settings

2015-09-13 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Bob, I think that your assumption that the pads should be the same is wrong. Through hole parts are not build with always the same wire diameter. So the holes diameters will be different. Very often the wire for resistor is larger than the wire for capacitor, and vary from manufacturer to manufact

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

2015-09-03 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi nnn, I do not understand your point about having values on the PCB. NOBODY in the industry put values on the PCB. To facilitate the assembly, a lot of companies I worked for used a FAB drawing with one inch grid, and then generate a list of parts with the location on the grid. That’s more t

Re: [Kicad-developers] Gerber output units?

2015-08-05 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I do not understand why 6 significant digit will cause rounding error if Gerber generation uses inches as unit. you have a nanometer resolution which provides 6 decimals for millimeter units. When you divide this number by 25.4 to convert to inches, you might loose a bit of resolution, but you wi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can we enable menu icons on OS X?

2015-07-30 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Adam, Please do that. I like the Icons even if Apple does not.! Thanks, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Jul 30, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > If anyone is interested, I could quickly spin up a nightly build series with > these icons enabled. Let me know. > > Adam Wolf > > On Jul 30, 2015

[Kicad-developers] pcbnew: OS X cursor shape cannot be changed in any of the view

2015-07-21 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I am using Adam’s nightly build. I tried this on the three view modes, and result is the same. The cursor shape is always the default system cursor, I cannot find a way to have a large crosshair like it used to be available. Is that planned? Regards, Jean-Paul AC9GH Application: kicad Versio

Re: [Kicad-developers] OS X builds up and running again

2015-07-13 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Thank you, Adam. You’re doing a fantastic job for the OS X users. Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Jul 13, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > Bzr was 503ing on the docs repo repeatedly, even though I could check it out > fine from other machines on the network. A reboot fixed it. I have seen this >

[Kicad-developers] Is Nightly build of OS X broken?

2015-07-09 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I was trying to update Kicad for OS X beyond bzr5871, and there is nothing after July 2nd. Is the nightly build broken? Just curious, Jean-Paul AC9GH __ Index of /osx/ ../ DEBUG/06-Jul-2015 19:00 - READ

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trying some fixes on OSX about combo boxes in auxiliary toolbar .

2015-07-02 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Thanks Jean-Pierre, I just downloaded the latest Adam’s build (R5871), and I can report that the drop menus in pcbnew are now working as expected with mouse and track-pad in OS X. A Happier OS X user, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Jul 2, 2015, at 12:54 PM, jp charras wrote: > > Le 02/07/2015 18:25

Re: [Kicad-developers] Access to kicad-pcb.org

2015-07-02 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > > Yeah, I did ping Ajo about it. But you can still access > http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/ > > 2015-07-02 22:34 GMT+02:00 Jean-Paul Louis : >> Today, I was trying to download the latest OS X build from Adam, &g

Re: [Kicad-developers] Access to kicad-pcb.org

2015-07-02 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Thanks, Nick. The link you gave me works for me. Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > > Yeah, I did ping Ajo about it. But you can still access > http://downloads.kicad-pcb.org/osx/ > > 2015-07-02 22:34 GMT+02:00 Jean-Paul Louis : >>

[Kicad-developers] Access to kicad-pcb.org

2015-07-02 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Today, I was trying to download the latest OS X build from Adam, but every time I try to connect to http://www.kicad-pcb.org, I get: ——— 502 Bad gateway Cherokee web server 1.2.103 (UNIX), Port 80 ——— Is that only me? Jean-Paul AC9GH ___ Mai

Re: [Kicad-developers] idea for post-release file manipulations

2015-06-21 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Are we going to the stable release with all the drop-down items broken on pcbnew OSX? I cannot use the mouse or the track-pad to select any of the items on the four drop-down menus for Track size, Via size, Grid size and Zoom selection. I reported this several times, but nobody seems to acknowl

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Use the OS Documents folder for default project instead of CWD

2015-06-15 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I like it too. Jean-Paul, AC9GH > On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > I like this change. > > Adam Wolf > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Does anyone else have any comments on this change. It makes sense to me > that on a new or empty project that t

Re: [Kicad-developers] future of complex board shapes

2015-06-15 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I agree strongly with Nick. A DXF import for the PCB outline is a must have, not just a nice to have. During my professional life, I always pushed the PCB design center to import the PCB outline from the mechanical design. My $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:54 AM, Nick Østergaard

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] Increase layer thickness limit from 3mm to 10mm

2015-06-14 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I agree with Martin, 3mm limit is too low. I used to build backplanes that were 3/16” thick and 24 layers with a lot of controlled impedance layers. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Jun 14, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Martin d'Allens wrote: > > Warning : this patch is extremely trivial. > > The fol

Re: [Kicad-developers] Unclear documentation

2015-05-11 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I would prefer at least 3 files. One for SMT devices. One for TH Insertion. One for hand placement. Or one file with an extra field (SMD, TH, HAND). Just an extra $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On May 11, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Andy Peters wrote: > >> >> On May 10, 2015, at 9:25 P

Re: [Kicad-developers] Unclear documentation

2015-05-10 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Andy, The distinction between SMD, TH and Hand-placed is VERY important, as a SMD placement machine cannot handle TH parts and vice-versa. So you want to be able to segregate the parts for each assembly step. Just my $0.02. Jean-Paul AC9GH > On May 10, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Andy Peters wrote: >

Re: [Kicad-developers] hard crash with pcbnew

2015-05-08 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
ter) - not the whole trace. > > It was difficult to click only on the right side because there is a zoom > function that comes in here. I may not have achieved the correct click. > > Rubbing the top of the mouse - just a little - causes a big zoom effect - not > helpful. >

Re: [Kicad-developers] hard crash with pcbnew

2015-05-08 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Everyone, I can confirm the crash of pcbnew in OpenGL mode. I load a pcb, zoom in in order to see a trace, then click-click click… on the trace. nothing happen. As soon as I right click just after, pcbnew crashes. Attached is the Mac crash report. I am using one of Adam’s nightly build(5636).

Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Fabrizio, The pen in the two icons you redesigned is too big. It should be the same size as the one in the other icons (consistency). Otherwise, I’m fine with them. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On May 4, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Fabrizio Tappero > wrote: > > footprint ___

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad Github Plugin Required Features

2015-04-25 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
volunteering to spend even more time on this project. > > Adam Wolf > Cofounder and Engineer > Wayne and Layne, LLC > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > Hi Adam, > > I do not see why the change in the library to make it compatible with othe

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad Github Plugin Required Features

2015-04-24 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Adam, I do not see why the change in the library to make it compatible with other CAD packages, and IPC standards is a bad thing. Since the beginning, I always used my own library for diodes because they were broken in the KiCad library. At least now, I will be able to use the "standard” libr

Re: [Kicad-developers] Stable release update.

2015-03-14 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I still cannot build with Python Scripting enabled in OS X, and the build made by Adam was not working (Python console unusable) Will that be fixed before stable release? I am not using it yet because of this. Just curious, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Mar 14, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac nightlies with Python

2015-03-04 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Adam, I tried your build, and I can confirm that the scripting console is unusable as is. I tried to type “help”. the h was ok with proper echo, the e started the edit mode. the E seems ok, as it might not be a hotkey. The l started the library editor. This area need some work for OS X. Oth

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default environment variables.

2015-02-04 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
And I am the fourth third, LOL Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:23 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, Andy Peters wrote: > >> >>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:31 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: >>> >>> (I'm at least half OS X people, and I'm happy!) >> >> I'm probably 33.3% of OS X people

Re: [Kicad-developers] Are build warnings and notes normal?

2015-01-28 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Adam, I also get thousands of warnings when I build from scratch from the launchpad repo (delete the whole kicad folder and the build folder). I compile with the latest version of clang. Most of those warnings relate to overloaded things. I will keep the log when I rebuild. Jean-Paul AC9GH >

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad press.

2015-01-27 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
You guys ROCK. The best open source team I ever met. KiCad is improving by leaps and bounds. Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Jan 27, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > FYI. I just received an email today. KiCad made Pannam Imaging's "50 > Top Product Design and Product Development Software To

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX path wrangling

2015-01-12 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Minneapolis? Not a chance. I left Granger, IN for a while because it was too cold. I am vacationing in Wilmington, NC where temperature is 65F. I will think about a party in Minneapolis maybe in July, LOL. Adam, Thanks for your great work for us, poor OS X users. Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Jan 12,

Re: [Kicad-developers] OS X Packaging Update

2014-12-24 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I agree with you, Adam! There is a limit to the baby-sitting of users. It looks fine as is, but a background image with low contrast showing part of a PCB layout would be awesome. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Dec 24, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > Thanks Nick! This really hel

Re: [Kicad-developers] State of OS X Builds

2014-12-08 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
When moving to OS X 10.10.1, an upgrade of ALL the development tools is in order. I use MacPorts, and the upgrade took a good while. But now I am running great. My OS X builds of KiCad are running fine now, but to be on the safe side, I delete the old source and I rebuild from a fresh download.

Re: [Kicad-developers] State of OS X Builds

2014-12-08 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Adam, Yes, it looks like the “Ugly redish esteem screen” is gone,hopefully forever. The next really annoying bug in OS X is the fact that the mouse does not work well with the dropdown selections in pcbnew. I have tried to run through the source without a hint of the reason. Hopefully, some de

Re: [Kicad-developers] Failure to build KiCad on OS X Yosemite with wxWidgets-3.0.2 and Boost-1.54

2014-12-01 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
-darwin11.3.0 Jean-Pauls-MacBook-Pro-3:build jean-paullouis$ > On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > > I finally succeeded with stock Boost 1.56. > I did first a full refresh of the MacPorts (port selfupdate), > then ran “sudo port upgrade outdated”. > Finally, I

Re: [Kicad-developers] Failure to build KiCad on OS X Yosemite with wxWidgets-3.0.2 and Boost-1.54

2014-12-01 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
t; Hi, > > hm, weird… but if it works now, everything OK. > I just install boost via MacPorts (no special flags) and use the > -DKICAD_SKIP_BOOST=ON flag for KiCad. > Finds external boost automatically, didn’t see any issues with that up to now. > > > Regards, > Ber

Re: [Kicad-developers] Failure to build KiCad on OS X Yosemite with wxWidgets-3.0.2 and Boost-1.54

2014-12-01 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
gt;> >> But I did a make clean, and now it succeeded, and the red background in >> eeschema seems to be gone. >> >> Some progress. >> I now need to find the proper way to use the stock boost. I will work on >> that today. >> >> Thanks for your

Re: [Kicad-developers] Failure to build KiCad on OS X Yosemite with wxWidgets-3.0.2 and Boost-1.54

2014-12-01 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
proper way to use the stock boost. I will work on that today. Thanks for your help, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Nov 30, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > > Hi Bernhard, > > Now, I am failing to build for OS X. I just tried to rebuild the wxWidgets > 3.0.2 for OS

[Kicad-developers] Failure to build KiCad on OS X Yosemite with wxWidgets-3.0.2 and Boost-1.54

2014-11-30 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Bernhard, Now, I am failing to build for OS X. I just tried to rebuild the wxWidgets 3.0.2 for OS X 10.10. My last successful build was bzr5296. I just tried to build today with bzr5308. Now it fails just after building boost 1.54. Is it mandatory to use 1.57? If so, I will try to build the l

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX: pcbnew comboboxes not working?

2014-11-30 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Bernhard, I second that annoying issue in OS X. I had already reported that odd behavior several weeks ago, but nobody even acknowledged it. It is really annoying, and I do not understand why it is an OS X only issue. Hopefully, someone will see the light, and fix it. Best regards, Jean-Paul

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Red Blob Bug

2014-11-22 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
being harder than hard things. > It's applicable here :) > > Adam Wolf > Cofounder and Engineer > W&L > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: > I have 20 minutes before I have to head out--let's see if third time's the > charm.

[Kicad-developers] Building wxWidgets 3.0.2 for OS X Yosemite

2014-11-21 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Adam, This is failing all the time. The patch for OS X Yosemite does not succeed. So when I build, I get two errors and fails. ../wxWidgets-3.0.2/src/osx/webview_webkit.mm:392:30: warning: incompatible pointer types sending 'WebViewUIDelegate *' to parameter of type 'id' [-Wincompatibl

Re: [Kicad-developers] Wrong (external) boost pulled in?

2014-11-20 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
version: 1.54.0 USE_WX_GRAPHICS_CONTEXT=OFF USE_WX_OVERLAY=ON KICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF USE_FP_LIB_TABLE=HARD_CODED_ON BUILD_GITHUB_PLUGIN=ON Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Jean-Paul Lo

Re: [Kicad-developers] Wrong (external) boost pulled in?

2014-11-20 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
To get a baseline, I just build KiCad from scratch. I just upgraded to OS X Yosemite, refreshed all my MacPorts for the dev tools, and I am using Xcode 6.1, clang 6.1.1, Cmake 3.0.2, make 3.81, wxwidgets 3.0.2. Jean-Pauls-MacBook-Pro-3:Soft_Dev jean-paullouis$ cmake --version cmake version 3.0.2

Re: [Kicad-developers] Wrong (external) boost pulled in?

2014-11-20 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > > To get a baseline, I just build KiCad from scratch. > I just upgraded to OS X Yosemite, refreshed all my MacPorts for the dev > tools, > and I am using Xcode 6.1, > clang 6.1.1, > Cmake 3.0.2, > make 3.81, > wxwidgets 3.0.2. > > Je

Re: [Kicad-developers] Wrong (external) boost pulled in?

2014-11-20 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
To get a baseline, I just build KiCad from scratch. I just upgraded to OS X Yosemite, refreshed all my MacPorts for the dev tools, and I am using Xcode 6.1, clang 6.1.1, Cmake 3.0.2, make 3.81, wxwidgets 3.0.2. Jean-Pauls-MacBook-Pro-3:Soft_Dev jean-paullouis$ cmake --version cmake version 3.0.2

Re: [Kicad-developers] Migration - MacPorts

2014-11-19 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I will try the build of boost 1.54 with all the KiCad patches first, then I will try the stock 1.57 later. > On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > I have not switched to stock boost at this point. > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 11:35 AM Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > Hi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Migration - MacPorts

2014-11-19 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I will try the build of boost 1.54 with all the KiCad patches first, then I will try the stock 1.57 later. > On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > I have not switched to stock boost at this point. > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 11:35 AM Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > Hi

[Kicad-developers] Migration – MacPorts

2014-11-19 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Adam, I tried homebrew when I started using OS X, but got frustrated and switched to macports, and never looked back. I found a page that seems to help a lot for macports users. See below. When I am done with the migration, I will restart building cicada, and let you know what method I am usi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Wrong (external) boost pulled in?

2014-11-19 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I think that it is what happened to me. I had boost 1.55 AND 1.56 installed in my machine, and the cmake was forcing a build of 1.54. When I removed the 1.55 and the 1.56, things got a lot better, and the builds succeeded. I cannot check right now, as I am upgrading to OS X Yosemite (10.10.1),

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Red Blob Bug

2014-11-16 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
that needs to be added, that may or may not be properly > added into the tree--I need to doublecheck again. > > Adam Wolf > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > Hi Bernhard, > I plan to upgrade my OS X to Yosemite. > Can you confirm that KiCa

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX Red Blob Bug

2014-11-16 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Bernhard, I plan to upgrade my OS X to Yosemite. Can you confirm that KiCad will build properly under OS X 10.10? Is there anything that I need to be aware of when upgrading the toolchain? Any advice is welcome as I am nowhere near an OS X guru. Regards, Jean-Paul AC9GH On Nov 16, 2014, at 1

Re: [Kicad-developers] Call for update of avhttp because of boost 1.57

2014-11-09 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
n more > issues with boost for OSX. I am building on archlinux. > > 2014-11-09 19:48 GMT+01:00 Jean-Paul Louis : >> Hi Nick, >> I forgot to mention that I am building for OS X 10.9.3, so it was my >> understanding that there are quite a few patches to apply. I will check

Re: [Kicad-developers] Call for update of avhttp because of boost 1.57

2014-11-09 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
butions repo, and I skip the kicad boost building. > > 2014-11-09 19:08 GMT+01:00 Jean-Paul Louis : >> Thanks Nick, >> >> I will try that. >> So, If I understand right, I need to download 1.57, apply all the patches, >> build it, and after that skip Boost

Re: [Kicad-developers] Call for update of avhttp because of boost 1.57

2014-11-09 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
option to skip KiCad's boost, such that is uses my > system's boost, which is 1.57. So you can do it now. > > Nick > > 2014-11-09 17:54 GMT+01:00 Jean-Paul Louis : >> Nick, >> >> The KiCad build process calls for Boost 1.54. >> When will we be ab

Re: [Kicad-developers] Call for update of avhttp because of boost 1.57

2014-11-09 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Nick, The KiCad build process calls for Boost 1.54. When will we be able to use 1.57? Just curious, Jean-Paul AC9GH On Nov 9, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > Hello > > Since the latest release of boost version 1.57 the github plugin will > fail while building avhttp with some out

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX updates

2014-11-06 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Adam, I’m glad you picked #2. That’s what make the most sense. Jean-Paul AC9GH On Nov 6, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > There will be an appropriate symlink. > > Adam Wolf > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014, 2:17 PM Bob Gustafson wrote: > I would vote for 2 or 3. > > One question is whether ~/L

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX updates

2014-11-06 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
ll contents to the > ~/Library/Application Support/kicad/library folder. > Changing things inside the home folder is much more normal than changing > things inside the bundle - normal users shouldn’t change anything within the > bundle. > > > Regards, > Bernhard > >

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX updates

2014-11-06 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
I agree with Wayne’s opinion. Everything in a single package is a lot less frustrating for new users. Jean-Paul AC9GH On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > On 11/6/2014 11:32 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: >> Alternatively, what do folks think about packaging the libraries as a >> dmg? T

Re: [Kicad-developers] Footprint python plugin: Is it possible to merge ?

2014-11-05 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
To me, that really look like feature creep. you rarely need everything from 4 to 64 pins, and then why stop at 64? The idea of a library is that you can pick what you need, not what you can do just because you can. Most of my work life, I was pushing design engineers to reduce the number of diffe

Re: [Kicad-developers] Footprint python plugin: Is it possible to merge ?

2014-11-03 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Hi Nick, The best would be to tune the github plugin to do just that. Access the footprints from git and have them stored locally, so changes would be faster, and user could work when not online. I thought that it was planned to have that working already (github access with local storage of dat

Re: [Kicad-developers] OSX: opening PCBNew standalone

2014-10-30 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Adam, I do not have this problem with BZR5236. I will try the latest one and let you know Jean-Paul AC9GH On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: > I did run make install, and then copied the files from bin/ into a dmg. > Interestingly enough, EESchema, for example, from the same wo

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