Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Wolf
I believe Blender has a Python environment of its own embedded inside of it, and doesn't reuse a system Python. Adam Wolf Wayne and Layne, LLC On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote: On Mar 10, 2013 8:32 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo miguelan...@nbee.es

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Wolf
In general, system-wide python modules go into site-packages. If this is the route we want to go, I think we can do something like this in our CMake to find the site-packages directory. execute_process ( COMMAND python -c from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print get_python_lib()

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
I also think, that it's important to provide a way for users to have access to our modules from outside kicad, that can be easily fixed letting them set (or appending to) PYTHONPATH, as I'm doing now for MacOSX, In linux are you sure they do like that?, in windows for sure. If you bundle

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Edwin van den Oetelaar
Maybe worth to look at : http://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/command_ref.html That is what I use for environments that have multiple configurations (and libraries). Keep going ! Edwin van den Oetelaar On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo miguelan...@nbee.es

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Wolf
Yeah, virtualenv or something equivalent is a must for most Python development, but I don't think it necessarily applies here. If we had the python modules for Kicad completely separate, we could throw them into pypi (think perl's CPAN) and then folks who want to use virtualenv (or something

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
I think I understand what you mean Dick, we need to provide a default way to compile and install python modules to a prefix, and also the set of default scripts module libraries, wizards, it's that what you mean? But anyway, when somebody installs a package system wide, we must

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi Dick, The modules just have to be in a place on the PYTHONPATH (afaik). We can either put them in a location that is already on the PYTHONPATH, or put them in a location that isn't on the PYTHONPATH and provide instructions on how to modify your PYTHONPATH or modify it for the user. I have

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 03/11/2013 09:23 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: Hi Dick, The modules just have to be in a place on the PYTHONPATH (afaik). We can either put them in a location that is already on the PYTHONPATH, or put them in a location that isn't on the PYTHONPATH and provide instructions on how to modify your

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
That looks quite much to the wrapping I had to do in MacOX to avoid static linking, where it's uncommon for normal users to put new libraries in the system paths: I rename pcbnew to pcbnew.bin and put the loader as pcbnew, same for all the other apps, it just builds a pointer to the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
For me, the most reasonable solution sounds like providing both options, being able to enforce a user-local destination for python modules/libraries, or a system wide standard one. In development, or single user installations, first is better, for apt-get install or equivalent system-wide

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Wolf
Would it be bad for us to put the swiggy autogenerated stuff in a readonly, central location, because it's not going to be modified without doing a new cmake? Then we put all the scripts that will be modified in a homedir? On Mar 11, 2013 10:25 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo miguelan...@nbee.es

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 03/11/2013 10:20 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: If we store all the python modules in a user's home directory, how do they get there? Does kicad put them there, or does the installer? While we should provide the python modules like footprint_wizard.py for download, we cannot easily provide the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 03/11/2013 10:32 AM, Adam Wolf wrote: Would it be bad for us to put the swiggy autogenerated stuff in a readonly, central location, because it's not going to be modified without doing a new cmake? Then we put all the scripts that will be modified in a homedir? It gets bad when you guess

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Wolf
Thanks for your work getting Python scripting on Windows. What's the next step here, to make it match what you need for development? Make a cmake directive to direct where the python modules go? Adam Wolf WL On Mar 11, 2013 11:37 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote: On 03/11/2013 10:32

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Martijn Kuipers
Hi Miguel, Downloading as we speak. On the github page you call it a universal OSX binary, but that would mean it supports both PowerPC and Intel based MACS, whereas is this email announcement you call it i386 +x64 build. I'm looking forward in compiling it myself, just to see if your solution

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
On 10/03/2013, at 11:30, Martijn Kuipers martijn.kuip...@gmail.com wrote: Viva, On Mar 10, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo miguelan...@nbee.es wrote: Hehe, yes, you're right, universal is ppc+x86+x64, x86+x64 is only multi binary. My system cannot compile for ppc (it's a

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
I was always hoping to see the libraries (DLLs) to go into /Library/Kicad, so we can keep the memory footprint down of the separate Kicad components. But it is not a trivial task, so it seems. I am not following what you want to do. Is it like: /Applications/kicad/kicad.app - the app with

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Awesome!!, thanks for testing Martijn, :-) I think I used cmake from homebrew: MacBook-Air-de-Miguel:src ajo$ which cmake /Users/ajo/.rvm/bin/cmake MacBook-Air-de-Miguel:src ajo$ ls -la `which cmake` lrwxr-xr-x 1 ajo staff 47 2 mar 00:24 /Users/ajo/.rvm/bin/cmake -

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
This tuesday I must decide if I keep renewing our *ltium license, or if we won't. I'm thinking about donating 1/2 - 2/3 of it's cost to buy one of those mac minis to provide continuous integration/building of kicad binaries for OSX on every bzr release. It would be wonderful also if we

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Martijn Kuipers
On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:35 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo miguelan...@nbee.es wrote: Awesome!!, thanks for testing Martijn, :-) I think I used cmake from homebrew: MacBook-Air-de-Miguel:src ajo$ which cmake /Users/ajo/.rvm/bin/cmake MacBook-Air-de-Miguel:src ajo$ ls -la `which cmake`

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Adam Wolf
Miguel, Wayne and Layne recently purchased a Mac Mini for Kicad builds. We have a spare Windows license too, so I can host a Windows and Linux VM on it as well. I can set this up on a Jenkins instance. I'm considering doing the same with the Linux builds. While I like the PPA autobuilder, the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Martijn Kuipers
I just build a pure x64 binary for OSX. Packed: 82MB Unpacked: 300MB Honoustly, I expected the difference with a 386/x64 build to be bigger Packed: 82 vs 100MB Unpacked: 300 vs 350MB /Martijn On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:35 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo miguelan...@nbee.es wrote: Awesome!!, thanks

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Adam Wolf
I like to put the actual commands used in the build server in a source tree somewhere, so there's no magic behind the scenes. Adam Wolf Wayne and Layne LLC On Mar 10, 2013 8:04 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo miguelan...@nbee.es wrote: Adam, it sounds great, you're killing my excuse to buy a

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On Mar 10, 2013 6:50 PM, Adam Wolf adamw...@feelslikeburning.com wrote: Miguel, Wayne and Layne recently purchased a Mac Mini for Kicad builds. We have a spare Windows license too, so I can host a Windows and Linux VM on it as well. I can set this up on a Jenkins instance. I'm considering

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
On 11/03/2013, at 02:40, Adam Wolf adamw...@feelslikeburning.com wrote: Nah, I think, if my releases are good enough, that I'd rather push them to a central kicad thing, rather than to a WL property. I don't want to spread things out more than they have to be. While we're not big enough

Re: [Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-10 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On Mar 10, 2013 8:32 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo miguelan...@nbee.es wrote: On 11/03/2013, at 03:25, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote: On Mar 10, 2013 8:10 PM, Adam Wolf adamw...@feelslikeburning.com wrote: Dick, We can do it either way. We can push binaries up to the PPA, or

[Kicad-developers] Mac OSX build, with scripting, codename wife

2013-03-09 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Hi, I've been working on the release of Kicad with scripting for MacOSX, also tried to package it all together with all kicad libs, and the templates. It's supposed to be a i386 + x64 binary build, with scripting support. kicad-scripting-osx-latest.zip It has all the new kicad templates