Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-30 Thread Nick Østergaard
2014-11-29 18:34 GMT+01:00 Nick Østergaard : > 2014-11-29 16:18 GMT+00:00 Wayne Stambaugh : >> On 11/29/2014 8:01 AM, jp charras wrote: >>> Le 26/11/2014 17:18, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : I just discovered something I never noticed before. Trapezoidal SMD pads are not connected to zone fi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-29 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 29.11.2014 18:34, from Nick Østergaard: I also tested this on Fedora 20, it seems to work as expected. Except for the gerbview that renders it pretty strangely. I have attached the gerbers and some screenshots (if they get throught the mail filter). It definit

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-29 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 29.11.2014 17:18, from Wayne Stambaugh: I just finished testing it on the prototype board I was working on and it works beautifully. Thanks a lot for adding the nice (for me anyway) feature. I wont be able to test the gerber output since I am etching these b

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-29 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 11/29/2014 8:01 AM, jp charras wrote: > Le 26/11/2014 17:18, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : >> I just discovered something I never noticed before. Trapezoidal SMD >> pads are not connected to zone files (see attached screen shot). The >> zone fill also does not follow the contour of the pad outline

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-29 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 28.11.2014 14:54, from Wayne Stambaugh: On 11/27/2014 12:44 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: On 27.11.2014 17:18, jp charras wrote: Le 27/11/2014 12:22, "Torsten Hüter" a écrit : Hi Jean-Pierre, Currently this in not the case in Pcbnew. This is acceptable for

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-29 Thread jp charras
Le 26/11/2014 17:18, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : > I just discovered something I never noticed before. Trapezoidal SMD > pads are not connected to zone files (see attached screen shot). The > zone fill also does not follow the contour of the pad outline. Is this > by design or should I file a bug

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-28 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 28.11.2014 14:54, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > On 11/27/2014 12:44 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: >> On 27.11.2014 17:18, jp charras wrote: >>> Le 27/11/2014 12:22, "Torsten Hüter" a écrit : Hi Jean-Pierre, >> >>> Currently this in not the case in Pcbnew. >>> This is acceptable for microwave appl

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-28 Thread jp charras
Le 28/11/2014 14:54, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : > On 11/27/2014 12:44 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: >> On 27.11.2014 17:18, jp charras wrote: >>> Le 27/11/2014 12:22, "Torsten Hüter" a écrit : Hi Jean-Pierre, >> >>> Currently this in not the case in Pcbnew. >>> This is acceptable for microwave a

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-28 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 11/27/2014 12:44 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 27.11.2014 17:18, jp charras wrote: >> Le 27/11/2014 12:22, "Torsten Hüter" a écrit : >>> Hi Jean-Pierre, > >> Currently this in not the case in Pcbnew. >> This is acceptable for microwave applications, which are very specific >> (even DRC is s

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-27 Thread jp charras
Le 27/11/2014 19:51, jp charras a écrit : > Le 27/11/2014 18:44, Tomasz Wlostowski a écrit : >> On 27.11.2014 17:18, jp charras wrote: >>> Le 27/11/2014 12:22, "Torsten Hüter" a écrit : Hi Jean-Pierre, >> >>> Currently this in not the case in Pcbnew. >>> This is acceptable for microwave applic

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-27 Thread jp charras
Le 27/11/2014 18:44, Tomasz Wlostowski a écrit : > On 27.11.2014 17:18, jp charras wrote: >> Le 27/11/2014 12:22, "Torsten Hüter" a écrit : >>> Hi Jean-Pierre, > >> Currently this in not the case in Pcbnew. >> This is acceptable for microwave applications, which are very specific >> (even DRC is s

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-27 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 27.11.2014 17:18, jp charras wrote: > Le 27/11/2014 12:22, "Torsten Hüter" a écrit : >> Hi Jean-Pierre, > Currently this in not the case in Pcbnew. > This is acceptable for microwave applications, which are very specific > (even DRC is specific in microwave applications, because traces are not

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-27 Thread jp charras
Le 27/11/2014 12:22, "Torsten Hüter" a écrit : > Hi Jean-Pierre, > > I agree that a the trapezoidal pad is seldom used for most circuits > and this feature isn't important. However, commercial tools like > Altium Designer or Mentor Expedition support custom pad shapes, there > is a lot of freedom

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-27 Thread Torsten Hüter
Hi Jean-Pierre, I agree that a the trapezoidal pad is seldom used for most circuits and this feature isn't important. However, commercial tools like Altium Designer or Mentor Expedition support custom pad shapes, there is a lot of freedom for the pad geometry (any polygonal shape). Have a look

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-27 Thread Torsten Hüter
Hi Jean-Pierre,   I agree that a the trapezoidal pad is seldom used for most circuits and this feature isn't important. However, commercial tools like Altium Designer or Mentor Expedition support custom pad shapes, there is a lot of freedom for the pad geometry (any polygonal shape). Have a look

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 11/26/2014 3:14 PM, LordBlick wrote: > In response to a message written on 26.11.2014 18:03, from jp charras: >> Currently, this is by design. >> >> Adding thermal relief to a trapezoidal shape creates discontinuity, and >> the shape is no more a trapezoid. >> In fact, using a trapezoidal shape

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 26.11.2014 18:03, from jp charras: Currently, this is by design. Adding thermal relief to a trapezoidal shape creates discontinuity, and the shape is no more a trapezoid. In fact, using a trapezoidal shape for a pad in a copper zone has no interest. For these

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread Bob Gustafson
On 11/26/2014 01:16 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: 2014-11-26 20:00 GMT+01:00 jp charras : Le 26/11/2014 18:43, Nick Østergaard a écrit : This is indeed an annoyting bug, it has existed since 2009 at least. There is already a bug report about it. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1035621

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread Nick Østergaard
Den 26/11/2014 20.29 skrev "Adam Wolf" : > > Nick, > > I have used trapezoidal pads to connect between PCB antennas and traces. There are precise rules on trace thickness for antennas, and this let me have one thing I could modify in the footprint to handle multiple different feedline widths. Yes,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread Vesa Solonen
26/11/14, 21:16, Nick Østergaard kirjoitti: > 2014-11-26 20:00 GMT+01:00 jp charras : >> Le 26/11/2014 18:43, Nick Østergaard a écrit : >>> This is indeed an annoyting bug, it has existed since 2009 at least. >>> There is already a bug report about it. See: >>> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread Adam Wolf
Nick, I have used trapezoidal pads to connect between PCB antennas and traces. There are precise rules on trace thickness for antennas, and this let me have one thing I could modify in the footprint to handle multiple different feedline widths. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer W&L On Wed, Nov 26

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread Nick Østergaard
2014-11-26 20:00 GMT+01:00 jp charras : > Le 26/11/2014 18:43, Nick Østergaard a écrit : >> This is indeed an annoyting bug, it has existed since 2009 at least. >> There is already a bug report about it. See: >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1035621 > > Sorry, but I already said why a tr

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread jp charras
Le 26/11/2014 18:43, Nick Østergaard a écrit : > This is indeed an annoyting bug, it has existed since 2009 at least. > There is already a bug report about it. See: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1035621 Sorry, but I already said why a trapezoidal pad is designed. The fact an user is

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread Nick Østergaard
This is indeed an annoyting bug, it has existed since 2009 at least. There is already a bug report about it. See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1035621 Nick 2014-11-26 18:03 GMT+01:00 jp charras : > Le 26/11/2014 17:18, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : >> I just discovered something I never not

Re: [Kicad-developers] Trapezoidal pads and planes.

2014-11-26 Thread jp charras
Le 26/11/2014 17:18, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : > I just discovered something I never noticed before. Trapezoidal SMD > pads are not connected to zone files (see attached screen shot). The > zone fill also does not follow the contour of the pad outline. Is this > by design or should I file a bug