KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-07 Thread Mark Wegmet
Yes, as noted in my comment on Mark L's comment (third paragraph, first line of my e-mail), clamp force for the WAFs is irrelevant for exactly the reason you have noted. Although the comment about "greater length ... than it will see in service" is not exactly what we need to see in the applica

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-07 Thread jean paul GLOTIN
Le dim. 7 nov. 2021 à 16:21, jean paul GLOTIN a écrit : > > Le dim. 7 nov. 2021 à 16:17, jean paul GLOTIN > a écrit : > >> May .be this book could hello you >> >> Le sam. 6 nov. 2021 à 20:43, Chris Kinnaman a écrit : >> >>> What exactly do you mean by "strip"? The plastic/fiber in AN364 & AN365

KR>Re: crash Concerns

2021-11-07 Thread Chris Kinnaman
In any event the consensus seems to be that this is the first anyone within the KR community has heard of a spar failure in the center section. So far that makes it an anomaly, with no indication of any sort of trend. It's been said that "a pilot can pull the wings off any airplane that's ever

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-07 Thread Flesner
On 11/7/2021 7:49 AM, Mark Wegmet wrote: Another way of looking at "torque" requirements at the basic engineering level of fasteners is to consider that it is a conversion of (unmeasurable) clamping force on a fastener to a (measurable) rotational force that considers the tensile strength and e

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-07 Thread Mark Wegmet
Another way of looking at "torque" requirements at the basic engineering level of fasteners is to consider that it is a conversion of (unmeasurable) clamping force on a fastener to a (measurable) rotational force that considers the tensile strength and elongation under load of a material (i.e.,

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-06 Thread patrick
Here's a video that appears to be from this past August that shows ZS-UKU in the configuration at the time of the accident - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHeMbgoql2Y The wingtips had been changed, but it appeared to still have the old style retracts. I'm still boggled by the thought that t

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-06 Thread Tony King
As I understand it, timber is one material that has no fatigue life so long as it's used and stored within limits. Those limits have been well established over the past 120 years or more of its use in aircraft construction. That's why antique wooden aircraft can remain airworthy today. The numbe

KR>Re: KR crash South Africa

2021-11-06 Thread Flesner
On 11/6/2021 5:32 PM, Dr. Feng Hsu wrote: it is highly doubtful that KR2 builders would store their unfinished projects in air conditioned garage for 20+ years of it was never finished and gets sold in the end + Many aircr

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-06 Thread Flesner
On 11/6/2021 5:28 PM, Mark Langford wrote: Mark Langford Mechanical Engineer..*RETIRED! * m...@n56ml.com http://www.n56ml.com Huntsville, AL ___ The operative word here is retired and enjoying the heck out of it. Larry Flesner _

KR>Re: KR crash South Africa

2021-11-06 Thread Dr. Feng Hsu
thanks Larry for the encouraging story about your oak kitchen chairs. Oak is high quality wood indeed, but not sure if treated Oak wood were used for all spars in all the KR2 kits sold in the past?! Also, it is highly doubtful that KR2 builders would store their unfinished projects in air conditio

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-06 Thread Mark Langford
There's no need to torque the crap out of any of the wing attach fittings through the spars, or even WAF to WAF, for that matter. They are simply "pin joints" in engineering terms, meant to keep things from moving around. Friction is not even considered when analyzing the stress on these thin

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-06 Thread Flesner
On 11/6/2021 10:20 AM, Dr. Feng Hsu wrote: (1) what's the easiest or minimum modifications and cost effective installation design necessary to install a BRS on a typical KR2 structural? +++ I seem to recall someone from "down

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-06 Thread Flesner
On 11/6/2021 1:21 PM, Brett Lombardi wrote: KR builders, Attempting to torque the AN bolts that attach the brackets to the main and rear spars. The nylon in the nuts strip with minimal pressure, ie. 12 lbs/sq ft. Anyone else have this issue and/or advice? Thanks, Brett +

KR>Re: Spar bolts/nuts

2021-11-06 Thread Chris Kinnaman
What exactly do you mean by "strip"? The plastic/fiber in AN364 & AN365 nuts is supposed to just drag on the threads of the bolts enough to keep the nuts from spinning freely. The fiber is not intended to bear any load. Chris K On 11/6/2021 12:21 PM, Brett Lombardi wrote: KR builders, Attempt

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-06 Thread Dr. Feng Hsu
Larry & all, This could be a serious safety concerns on the structural integrity of the KR design, such as the decision to use wood for the Spar. My concern is that the aging of wood would likely to take a toll on the material strength Has anyone did static or dynamic load tests on the structu

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread Rudi Venter
Hi Larry. Yes, the one wing was found some distance from the rest of the wreckage. Apparently it was quite obvious that the spar broke under the seat. I am sure the cause will be well investigated by both the locals who had access to the scene and the local authority (SACAA) As far as how the pla

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread Flesner
On 11/5/2021 10:49 AM, Rudi Venter wrote: It definitely was spar failure. The tips were no longer on the plane for the last couple of flights. The spar broke under the seat. +++ Was that evidenced by the remote debris?  Any ph

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread patrick
From FB, we'll see if this gets thru. -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -Change list delivery options at https://list.krnet.org/list/krnet.list.krnet.org/ Affinity List Info Board -Search recent KRnet Archives at https://lis

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread patrick
Thanks Rudi. Just saw your post on Bookface - hard to believe the center spar would fail. On 2021-11-05 11:49, Rudi Venter wrote: It definitely was spar failure. The tips were no longer on the plane for the last couple of flights. The spar broke under the seat. On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 5:34 PM

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread Rudi Venter
It definitely was spar failure. The tips were no longer on the plane for the last couple of flights. The spar broke under the seat. On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 5:34 PM wrote: > Very doubtful that it was a spar failure. Probably a lot of aerodynamic > force on those large tips. A lamination failure

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread patrick
Very doubtful that it was a spar failure. Probably a lot of aerodynamic force on those large tips. A lamination failure resulting in the loss of a tip(possibly taking a piece of the outer wing with it) could get ugly fast. On 2021-11-05 10:36, BOB ROBERT wrote: From the photos it had wing ti

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread Chris Gardiner
From previous correspondence with the owner of this KR2 , the wing tip tanks were not used to carry fuel. They looked like Cessna 310 style tips but were not functional , merely decorative. Sad day for our KR community. Condolences to the family of the pilot Chris G C GKRZ. KR2S Sent from my iP

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread BOB ROBERT
From the photos it had wing tip tanks. That would put extra stress on the spars Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Flesner wrote: > > On 11/5/2021 2:05 AM, Michael wrote: >> Preliminary feedback from people who were at the scene is that UKU appeared >> to have lost part of a wi

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread Flesner
On 11/5/2021 2:05 AM, Michael wrote: Preliminary feedback from people who were at the scene is that UKU appeared to have lost part of a wing that was found about 800 meters away on the flight path. Thanks for the update. 

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-05 Thread Michael
Greetings ZS-UKU crashed on the 28th October 2021 around midday near the Kitty Hawk airfield where it was housed and the pilot Neville Ferriera was fatally injured. Preliminary feedback from people who were at the scene is that UKU appeared to have lost part of a wing that was found about 800 met

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-04 Thread Chris Pryce
https://youtu.be/EnEXUjb7lCE On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 15:46 Flesner wrote: > > - > > > > This popped up on one of my aviation news feeds. > > Condolences to the pilots family. > > > > -Jeff Scott > > > > ++

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-04 Thread Flesner
- This popped up on one of my aviation news feeds. Condolences to the pilots family. -Jeff Scott ++ I was bouncing around on YouTube the other evening and stumbled on to a post by Dan Gryder titl

KR>Re: ZS-UKU - Apparently we have lost another...

2021-11-04 Thread Spongadi
Sad news. Il giorno gio 4 nov 2021 alle 23:21 Jeff Scott ha scritto: > Fatal accident... > (28/October/2021) > - South Africa 🇿🇦 : > A private Rand Robinson KR-2, registration ZS-UKU, impacted the terrain > under unknown circumstances in Tshwane, South Africa. > The sole pilot onboard was fatall

KR>Re: Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!

2021-10-30 Thread John Bouyea
Chris, Thank you for your effort to tell your story in the EAA magazine. With a title like "Mission Accomplished" I'm sure the article will get some additional reader interest. I think you did a good job telling many of the "whats & whys" you took on building your KR. I also like the fact you la

KR>Re: Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!

2021-10-30 Thread Flesner
On 10/30/2021 8:27 AM, Flesner wrote: Congratulations to Chris Pryce on his write-up in Sport Aviation this month.  Great airplane, great story, great article. Larry Flesner Page 102, What our members are building. -Please

KR>Re: Spar Skins

2021-10-28 Thread Sid Wood
The test exercise was originally intended to verify the design for the Wing Attach Fittings (WAF). In the picture for testing the KR-2 spar, the jack was placed at the end of the inner spar section. that placed a point load there. Loading of a KR-2 spar in flight has a distributed force. The

KR>Re: Spar Skins

2021-10-28 Thread costewart23
To: 'KRnet' Subject: KR>Re: Spar Skins Having built 2 KR's, I think you are correct, Larry.  -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -Change list delivery options at https://list.krnet.org/list/krnet.list.krnet.org/ Affi

KR>Re: Spar Skins

2021-10-28 Thread shafferj455js
Having built 2 KR's, I think you are correct, Larry. His plywood looks more like an arts and crafts type to me. Just saying. - https://www.kitplanes.com/spars-the-heart-of-the-wing/ /> in the article https://s28490.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019

KR>Re: Spar Skins

2021-10-27 Thread Chris Kinnaman
Anyone building airplanes with plywood owes it to themselves to go to everyspec.com and download MIL-P-6070B, as well as the latest version which supercedes it, MIL-DTL-6070C. Small knots and other defects are permissible in aircraft plywood but under a certain size and only at a given frequency

KR>Re: Spar Skins

2021-10-27 Thread Flesner
On 10/27/2021 3:24 PM, Flesner wrote: I don't ever recall seeing aircraft grade ply with circular grain and evidence of knot patterns. ++ Shouldn't it look more like this? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0152/1643/products/w4gv4vs2-1415582971_

KR>Re: Spar Skins

2021-10-27 Thread Flesner
On 10/26/2021 9:36 AM, costewart23 wrote: I think I messed up and have to redo the birch ply on the spars, I scarfed the ply 12:1,  but ran the grain horizontal instead of vertical one side of the main and outer fwd spars before I closed them up. ++

KR>Re: Spar Skins

2021-10-27 Thread Chris Kinnaman
Pretty sure the KR-2 construction manual specifies vertical grain orientation for the spar shear webs. Chris K On 10/27/2021 7:48 AM, Sid Wood wrote: To salvage your original spar with the miss-oriented web, plane it off.  One or two passes with a bench power planer would do it in a couple

KR>Re: Spar Skins

2021-10-27 Thread Sid Wood
In any I beam, such as the KR-2 box spar, any G load tends to move the spar caps closer together. The function of the webs is to resist that movement to prevent the collapse of the spar. The strongest direction for lumber is in the direction of the grain, either in compression or tension. In

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread Steve G.
Big hassle with the hosting service and lost the domain. It is working at www.nV-aero.com but I don’t have the email stuff for ordering squared away yet. Steve Glover Sent from my electronic leash. > On Oct 26, 2021, at 15:38, dee david wrote: > > What ever happened to NV aero > > > did

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread Spongadi
I am not sure if European services are same as USA. I will check with a copy shop how much is a scan and let you know. Il giorno mer 27 ott 2021 alle 00:33 dee david ha scritto: > Hi, > FEDEX/Kinko has a over sized copier that both copies and scans. > > Dee > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:04 PM S

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread dee david
What ever happened to NV aero did they go out of business -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -Change list delivery options at https://list.krnet.org/list/krnet.list.krnet.org/ Affinity List Info Board -Search recent KRnet Arch

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread dee david
Hi, FEDEX/Kinko has a over sized copier that both copies and scans. Dee On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 5:04 PM Spongadi wrote: > What can I do? I can’t copy or scan as they are too big. Any suggestions? > > Il giorno mar 26 ott 2021 alle 22:59 Chad Robertson < > chadrobertson2...@gmail.com> ha scritto

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread Spongadi
What can I do? I can’t copy or scan as they are too big. Any suggestions? Il giorno mar 26 ott 2021 alle 22:59 Chad Robertson < chadrobertson2...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > I also need a set so please let me know thanks > > Chadrobertson2951@ Gmail. N6GM > > > On Oct 26, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Spongad

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-26 Thread Spongadi
Excellent. So if you are satisfies I will goes for it too… where is a good place to order one? Thanks, ST Il giorno mar 26 ott 2021 alle 22:57 Chad Robertson < chadrobertson2...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > I have a 54x54 on mine and it has retract gear and have plenty of > clearance > > Chadrobertso

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread Chad Robertson
I also need a set so please let me know thanks Chadrobertson2951@ Gmail. N6GM > On Oct 26, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Spongadi wrote: > > I have them but they are large. Shahar > > Il Mar 26 Ott 2021, 20:53 dee david ha scritto: > >> Does anyone have a legible Drawing 1 and drawing 2 for the KR-2

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-26 Thread Chad Robertson
I have a 54x54 on mine and it has retract gear and have plenty of clearance Chadrobertson2951@ Gmail. N6GM > On Oct 26, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Spongadi wrote: > > Thanks. When I said I am not allowed, I actually meant : it won't be > possible or safe with my low original retractable gear. > >

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread Spongadi
Like mine. Il giorno mar 26 ott 2021 alle 22:12 dee david ha scritto: > I'm looking for the retractable gear version of the KR-2 (original Kr-2). > > -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -Change list delivery options at > htt

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread dee david
I'm looking for the retractable gear version of the KR-2 (original Kr-2). -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -Change list delivery options at https://list.krnet.org/list/krnet.list.krnet.org/ Affinity List Info Board -Search re

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-26 Thread Spongadi
Thanks. When I said I am not allowed, I actually meant : it won't be possible or safe with my low original retractable gear. Il Dom 24 Ott 2021, 03:35 Flesner ha scritto: > On 10/23/2021 7:29 PM, Spongadi wrote: > > The issue is that my KR2 is very low and has a tail wheel. > > I am quite sure

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread Spongadi
I have them but they are large. Shahar Il Mar 26 Ott 2021, 20:53 dee david ha scritto: > Does anyone have a legible Drawing 1 and drawing 2 for the KR-2. > > Hate to use this sentence but the dog mangled mine. > > More than willing to pay for the cost of having KINKO's scan it In. > Or make a co

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au
I may have a scan already, I will check. In the meantime can you send me a picture of your build manual cover just to protect the copyright. Paul. Sent from my Huawei Mobile Original Message Subject: KR>Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2From: dee david To: KRnet CC: Does anyo

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread Phillip Matheson
I will have some packed away, If you can’t get a copy in the states. Posting will be slow from Australia Phil. Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Oct 2021, at 05:53, dee david wrote: > > Does anyone have a legible Drawing 1 and drawing 2 for the KR-2. > > Hate to use this sentence but the dog man

KR>Re: Anyone have KR-2 plans page DRAWING 1 & 2

2021-10-26 Thread Flesner
On 10/26/2021 1:53 PM, dee david wrote: More than willing to pay for the cost of having KINKO's scan it In. Or make a copy. Does Kinko's still exist?  Our local store closed more than 20 years ago when I retired from Xerox.  My

KR>Re: Getting there

2021-10-26 Thread dee david
congratulations you go man! On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:32 PM Phillip Matheson < phillipmathe...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > Hope to start her for the first time very soon > Phil matheson > Australia > Sent from my iPhone > -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at h

KR>Re: Getting there

2021-10-25 Thread jean paul GLOTIN
👍👍👍👏👏👏 Le lun. 25 oct. 2021 à 02:32, Phillip Matheson a écrit : > > > > Hope to start her for the first time very soon > Phil matheson > Australia > Sent from my iPhone > -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -Change list delive

KR>Re: Getting there

2021-10-25 Thread jean paul GLOTIN
👍👍👍 Le lun. 25 oct. 2021 à 02:40, donald january a écrit : > 👍👍👍 > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:32 PM Phillip Matheson < > phillipmathe...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hope to start her for the first time very soon > > Phil matheson > > Australia > > Sent from my iPhone__

KR>Re: Getting there

2021-10-24 Thread donald january
👍👍👍 On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:32 PM Phillip Matheson < phillipmathe...@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > Hope to start her for the first time very soon > Phil matheson > Australia > Sent from my iPhone > -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-24 Thread Flesner
On 10/23/2021 8:37 PM, Flesner wrote: Measure the distance from the center of your prop flange to ground with aircraft level, subtract the clearance you will accept, double that for max prop length. Larry Flesner

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-24 Thread Flesner
On 10/23/2021 8:37 PM, Flesner wrote: Measure the distance from the center of your prop flange to ground with aircraft level, subtract the clearance you will accept, double that for max prop length. Larry Flesner

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-23 Thread Flesner
On 10/23/2021 7:29 PM, Spongadi wrote: The issue is that my KR2 is very low and has a tail wheel. I am quite sure I am not allowed to go over 52’. Am I right? Thanks to all, ++ Assuming you are in the USA, I don't recall there being a

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-23 Thread Spongadi
The issue is that my KR2 is very low and has a tail wheel. I am quite sure I am not allowed to go over 52’. Am I right? Thanks to all, Il giorno dom 24 ott 2021 alle 02:13 Luis Claudio via KRnet < krnet@list.krnet.org> ha scritto: > I selected a 56 X 46in pitch propeller for my Revmaster 2100D.

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-23 Thread Luis Claudio via KRnet
I selected a 56 X 46in pitch propeller for my Revmaster 2100D. I am yet to fly this airplane but I am confident that it is the right propeller, to begin with. Luis R Claudio, KR2S N8981S  On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 09:07:00 AM CDT, Spongadi wrote: Again dear all, I need to order my

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-23 Thread ROB SCHMITT via KRnet
I use a Sterba 54x54 for my trigear KR2S with Revmaster 2100D engine. I get 130 mph cruise, it tops out about 140-145. Rob Schmitt Sent from my iPad > On Oct 23, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Craig Williams wrote: > > This should help with prop choice. > > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html > > Craig

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-23 Thread Spongadi
SAE-1 Il giorno sab 23 ott 2021 alle 17:43 dee david ha scritto: > I know this may be a dumb question. What is the propeller hub size for the > revmaster/VW engine > SAE? > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 10:06 AM Spongadi wrote: > > > Again dear all, I need to order my prop for my Revmsster engine.

KR>Re: Fwd: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-23 Thread Spongadi
Thanks. The engine version is a 2100D. Il giorno sab 23 ott 2021 alle 16:37 Mark Langford ha scritto: > Shahar wrote: > > > I need to order my prop for my Revmsster engine. The > > question is: does a prop having 52' and 48 pitch is the best solution? > > Take a look at http://www.krnet.org/kr

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-23 Thread dee david
I know this may be a dumb question. What is the propeller hub size for the revmaster/VW engine SAE? On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 10:06 AM Spongadi wrote: > Again dear all, I need to order my prop for my Revmsster engine. The > question is: does a prop having 52' and 48 pitch is the best solution? >

KR>Re: Kr2 propone 52' with 48 of pitch.

2021-10-23 Thread Craig Williams
This should help with prop choice. http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html Craig N886MJ (N51CW) > On 10/23/2021 10:06 AM Spongadi wrote: > > > Again dear all, I need to order my prop for my Revmsster engine. The > question is: does a prop having 52' and 48 pitch is the best solution? ___

KR>Re: Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on floats

2021-10-23 Thread jean paul GLOTIN
Le sam. 23 oct. 2021 à 13:01, jean paul GLOTIN a écrit : > Yes i have pitchures and plans of kr3 by ernest koppe > The kr3 was n33kr the pilot was jack moell send me your adrress mail i can > send you information > > > Le ven. 22 oct. 2021 à 16:29, Flesner a écrit : > >> On 10/22/2021 8:56 AM, G

KR>Re: Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on floats

2021-10-23 Thread jean paul GLOTIN
Yes i have pitchures and plans of kr3 by ernest koppe The kr3 was n33kr the pilot was jack moell send me your adrress mail i can send you information Le ven. 22 oct. 2021 à 16:29, Flesner a écrit : > On 10/22/2021 8:56 AM, G R Pickett wrote: > > Oscar - your answer to KR Floats didn't quite mat

KR>Re: Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on floats

2021-10-22 Thread jean paul GLOTIN
Le ven. 22 oct. 2021 à 19:24, jean paul GLOTIN a écrit : > > Le ven. 22 oct. 2021 à 19:18, jean paul GLOTIN > a écrit : > >> >> Le ven. 22 oct. 2021 à 18:45, Chris Kinnaman a >> écrit : >> >>> Right, the KR-3. After years of development including a couple of >>> crashes, it was announced in the

KR>Re: Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on floats

2021-10-22 Thread Chris Kinnaman
Right, the KR-3. After years of development including a couple of crashes, it was announced in the Feb '84 newsletter no further work would be done on the design.  On 10/22/2021 8:31 AM, Flesner wrote:  > On 10/22/2021 8:56 AM, G R Pickett wrote: >> Oscar - your answer to KR Floats didn't qu

KR>Re: Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on floats

2021-10-22 Thread Flesner
On 10/22/2021 8:56 AM, G R Pickett wrote: Oscar - your answer to KR Floats didn't quite match the photo! Got a caption - or maybe a story- to go with the photo of 33KR? I'm pretty sure its not a Coot Amphibian, with a tail number like that...?! Griff P +

KR>Re: Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on floats

2021-10-22 Thread G R Pickett
2021 6:40 AM To: 'KRnet' Subject: KR>Re: Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on -Original Message- From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: KR>Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on floats? [John Gotschall wrote] Well, yes and no. Jeff Scott played with the idea ;o) Scroll

KR>Re: Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on

2021-10-22 Thread Paul Smith
-Original Message- From: Oscar Zuniga Sent: Friday, 22 October 2021 2:46 PM To: krnet@list.krnet.org Subject: KR>Has anyone tried to put a kr2 or kr2s on floats? [John Gotschall wrote] Well, yes and no. Jeff Scott played with the idea ;o) Scroll down a little way on this page- http:

KR>Re: wing gap cover photos

2021-10-20 Thread Spongadi
Thanks mr. Flesner for dedicating time and efforts. On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 01:49, Flesner wrote: > > I took some photos this evening of my wing gap covers. Years ago (15+) > I made covers with fiberglass but didn't like the way they turned out > and I wanted to finish building and get on with

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-20 Thread Spongadi
Thank you Mark. On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 15:08, Mark Langford wrote: > I hate to even add to this endless thread on wing gap solutions, but > what I did on N56ML was lay down a layer of duct tape about 6" wide that > covered the gap plus a couple of inches on each side. Duct tape > stretches a bi

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-20 Thread Spongadi
ge the aileron inboard and the flap > outboard interfere. > > John Martindale > Unit 39 > 40 Solitary Islands Way > Sapphire Beach NSW 2450 > AUSTRALIA > > From: David Maultsby > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:19:29 AM > To: KRn

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-20 Thread Mark Langford
Oh, and one more thing. I may be the only idiot that's ever done this, but I'm telling you so you won't be the second idiot to do this. Do not fly without wing gap seals installedit seriously compromises the lift you get from the wings! And definitely don't EVER fly with one removed and

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-20 Thread Mark Langford
I hate to even add to this endless thread on wing gap solutions, but what I did on N56ML was lay down a layer of duct tape about 6" wide that covered the gap plus a couple of inches on each side. Duct tape stretches a bit and doesn't have the issue of having to bend like aluminum does, and it

KR>Re: DIY Oxygen system

2021-10-20 Thread Rogelio Serrano
New n2/o2 separation technology membranes - https://www.daicel-evonik.com/assets/img/uploads/SEPURAN-N2-EN.pdf Much simpler than PSA (pressure swing adsorption) OBOGS. https://www.daicel-evonik.com/assets/img/uploads/SEPURAN-N2-EN.pdfOn 20 Oct 2021, at 02:08, Chad Robertson wrote: > > > Th

KR>Re: wing gap cover

2021-10-20 Thread Phillip Matheson
Or just Tape either side of gap to protect the Paint Push foam into the gap Sand level Use roll of glass tape ( easiest, save cutting) Epoxy or polyester about 3 to 6 layers wider then needed around the wing When dry cut from wing Peel off wing and trim to require size Perfect fit to the wing P

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-20 Thread John Martindale
Maultsby Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:19:29 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR>Re: Gap between wings. Wrap a 3 ¼ inch wide strip of aluminum entirely around the wing from the trailing edge around the leading edge and back to the trailing edge. Then you will have to decide how to fasten the two e

KR>Re: DIY Oxygen system

2021-10-19 Thread Chad Robertson
That’s a good little article. I have a oxygen tank for mine when I finally get it back flying. I also have a small cabin fire extinguisher that I hope I never have to use Chadrobertson2951@ Gmail. N6GM > On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:01 PM, Luis Claudio via KRnet > wrote: > >  > Homebuilt O2 (ki

KR>Re: wing gap cover photos

2021-10-19 Thread Flesner
At 5000 feet and 150 mph the bad wrap on the right wing is not visible, even up close. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0anhru6vu4666xp/101009206.jpg?dl=0 Larry Flesner -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -Change list delivery opt

KR>Re: DIY Oxygen system

2021-10-19 Thread Luis Claudio via KRnet
Homebuilt O2 (kitplanes.com) On Tuesday, October 19, 2021, 06:57:07 PM CDT, Luis Claudio via KRnet wrote: I came across this article and thought I'd share it. I for one am interested for health reasons, others that like to fly near the Oxygen requirement levels... they may also find

KR>Re: wing gap cover photos

2021-10-19 Thread Flesner
On 10/19/2021 6:51 PM, Flesner wrote: I cut the material, lined up the bottom with the lead edge +++ That should read "lined up the material with the trail edge" Larry Flesner -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet inf

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-19 Thread Flesner
On 10/19/2021 4:55 PM, Flesner wrote: As the aileron butts up to the wing center section, my aluminum strip does not meet up at the trail edge. Larry Flesner +++ Zoom way in on the wing to see what

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-19 Thread Flesner
On 10/19/2021 10:19 AM, David Maultsby wrote: Wrap a 3 ¼ inch wide strip of aluminum entirely around the wing from the trailing edge around the leading edge and back to the trailing edge. Then you will have to decide how to fasten the two ends together. I have seen a sort of aluminum box pop r

KR>Re: electric motor for propulsion

2021-10-19 Thread Flesner
On 10/19/2021 9:53 AM, dee david wrote: My real question is - what is the absolutely lowest Hp engine that will lift this plane (kr2) off the ground? I can understand "cost control" ( I'm cheap, no scratch that, I'm frugal, too

KR>Re: Electric motors & controllers etc

2021-10-19 Thread dee david
e life & reliability, especially if it's > heavy. > > No replacememt for displacement as them gifted cousins know. > > Brad > ________ > From: dee david > Sent: 19 October 2021 17:01:05 > To: KRnet > Subject: KR>Re: Electric motors &a

KR>Re: electric motor for propulsion

2021-10-19 Thread ŘfRobin Macdonald
I'm looking at the 80kw motor from Freerchobby & an Orion controller Freerchobby make sever motors for about 15kw up to 100 kw. The only problem is you have to feed them, a big battery pack, I hope to use an 80kw motor, have to sort out new wt & balance, from a 150 lb VW to an 30 lb motor , but the

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-19 Thread Spongadi
Thank you all Il Mar 19 Ott 2021, 17:19 David Maultsby ha scritto: > Wrap a 3 ¼ inch wide strip of aluminum entirely around the wing from the > trailing edge around the leading edge and back to the trailing edge. Then > you will have to decide how to fasten the two ends together. I have seen a >

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-19 Thread Spongadi
Thanks Il Mar 19 Ott 2021, 17:19 David Maultsby ha scritto: > Wrap a 3 ¼ inch wide strip of aluminum entirely around the wing from the > trailing edge around the leading edge and back to the trailing edge. Then > you will have to decide how to fasten the two ends together. I have seen a > sort o

KR>Re: Electric motors & controllers etc

2021-10-19 Thread Great Western Airsports
ting most of it's life reducing engine life & reliability, especially if it's heavy. No replacememt for displacement as them gifted cousins know. Brad From: dee david Sent: 19 October 2021 17:01:05 To: KRnet Subject: KR>Re: Electric motors & co

KR>Re: Electric motors & controllers etc

2021-10-19 Thread dee david
Hi robin, You have me really rethinking my approach. Does the website freerchobby have motors greater than 25 KW. 45 KW seems to be the magic numbers from my calculations to get a KR-2 aloft. and buz around. Any comment Dee On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 6:18 PM ŘfRobin Macdonald wrote: > I see so

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-19 Thread David Maultsby
Wrap a 3 ¼ inch wide strip of aluminum entirely around the wing from the trailing edge around the leading edge and back to the trailing edge. Then you will have to decide how to fasten the two ends together. I have seen a sort of aluminum box pop riveted to one end with sheet metal screws holdin

KR>Re: electric motor for propulsion

2021-10-19 Thread dee david
Okay, Let's jog some memories. I know the engine of choice for a Kr-2 is a VW or any engine greater than 65 Hp. My question is were there any flights made with lower Hp engines? My real question is - what is the absolutely lowest Hp engine that will lift this plane (kr2) off the ground? Authors

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-19 Thread Craig Williams
This is how Piper handled it on the PA22 aircraft. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CFSWe3vvcY_vUk3ZjM0zsHz_b4U-Z88T/view?usp=sharing > On 10/18/2021 9:58 PM Craig Williams wrote: > > > I used aluminum roof flashing and painted it once in place. I know others > have used duct tape or alum

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-19 Thread Spongadi
Thank you very much! I wonder how do I fix the aluminium strip or composite strip to the wings, screws/glue... Any close photos. Again thanks, Shahar Il Mar 19 Ott 2021, 04:54 Luis Claudio via KRnet ha scritto: > I used aluminum roofing flashing... lightweight and easy to shape around > the lea

KR>Re: Gap between wings.

2021-10-18 Thread Luis Claudio via KRnet
I used aluminum roofing flashing... lightweight and easy to shape around the leading edge.  Luis R Claudio, N8981S KR2S, Dallas Texas  On Monday, October 18, 2021, 09:41:19 PM CDT, Chris Pryce wrote: My wing gaps are covered with 3M 471 tape. The holes where the WAFs are are just fill

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