Re: [lace] intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Ann-Marie Lördal
If it wasn´t for the internet and other peoples homepages, both "private" and commercial I would still be making swedish lace. That is not "bad" lace but mostly torchon and I don´t think I would still be making lace at all if it was not for the inspiration from the lists arachne and bobbinlace and

re: [lace] intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Bev Walker
Steph wrote: > When someone buys a pricking (whether in a book or as a single piece of paper) they buy the right to make lace from the pricking. However they do not buy the right to copy in any other way. That's why putting a picture of finished lace on a website is a breach of copyright if >Fro

[lace] Re: Intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Aug 26, 2004, at 19:33, Jane Bawn wrote: So are you saying we will be seeing fewer and fewer websites of other arachneans completed lace pieces, to inspire and spur us to create our own masterpieces, simply because the owners of said websites are unable (or can't be bothered/no time) to track d

Re: [lace] Haven't a clue!

2004-08-26 Thread Renee Ford
Yes! And if it's not it looks like I might be able to use it to do the same job. Coming out of deep lurking to thank you for bringing what seems to be a basic little Teneriffe constructor to light. I wrote this list some months ago about my search for one of these and then life happened... go

[lace] Re: Ithaca Lace Days

2004-08-26 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Aug 26, 2004, at 20:45, Jane Viking Swanson wrote: Hi All, I'm just wondering if anybody has heard about their classes at the Ithaca (NY) Lace Days? I can't find my copy of the brochure and I can't remember when they will send out notification. They have sent it out; I heard from one of my roo

[lace] Tina

2004-08-26 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
To order the book, go to IOLI and click on conventions. Its under the Rocky Mountain Lace Guild. Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clarksburg, WV - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[lace] Ithaca Lace Days

2004-08-26 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All, I'm just wondering if anybody has heard about their classes at the Ithaca (NY) Lace Days? I can't find my copy of the brochure and I can't remember when they will send out notification. Needless to say I'm quite anxious . Jane in Vermont, USA who needs to make some lace to counteract al

[lace] Tina

2004-08-26 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
http://lace.lacefairy.com/Tina.html Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clarksburg, WV - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[lace] Re: Tina through IOLI

2004-08-26 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Aug 26, 2004, at 13:49, Jean Nathan wrote: There is a link to RMLG on the IOLI home page under conventions. I'm sure I used that link to get to 'Tina' several days ago, but perhaps I'm wrong and it's been added in the last couple of days. It has been added - or so Mark-the-Tatman (IOLI's webma

RE: [lace] Intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Jane Bawn
So are you saying we will be seeing fewer and fewer websites of other arachneans completed lace pieces, to inspire and spur us to create our own masterpieces, simply because the owners of said websites are unable (or can't be bothered/no time) to track down the authors of the books the lace came fr

[lace] Battenburg Lace Kit Gone!

2004-08-26 Thread Patricia Ann Fisher
Sunflower Hi fellow spiders, Gosh that went fast! Sherry aka Celtic Dream Weaver was the first person to contact me and will be receiving the Battenburg lace kit. Glad to know it is going to a good home! Trish in West Virginia [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a na

Re: [lace] Using silk thread (long)

2004-08-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Diane Does the thread have a tight Z twist? (Au ver au soie is Z spun) If so that is probably the cause of your problem. Ipswich lace, as part of the point ground family has a lot of half stitch plus extra twists (right-over-left = Z) than crosses (left-over-right = S) which means that all the Z

Re: [lace] Intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Clay Blackwell
Oh my... what a concept: Lawyers doing pro bono work on behalf of lacemakers!! Clay - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:18 AM Subject: [lace] Intent of copyright law > My understanding of the thought behind the copyr

Re: [lace] Intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Steph Peters
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:05:20 -0400, Robin wrote: someone doesn't buy a book because then she will be unable to show the >finished piece to her friends without getting permission from the author? ><<< > >As the one who has been most vocal on this point, I have to say >again--there's never been

[lace] Using silk thread (long)

2004-08-26 Thread Diane Williams
I am working on my second piece of Ipswich lace from my class I took at the IOLI convention. It is worked with black silk Au ver a soie(?) but I don't know the number. It is very fine. I worked my first class piece on a roller pillow and it came off the pillow looking very nice. Now I am workin

[lace] Re: Magazine sharing

2004-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Jane Partridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is why several of the guilds have associate membership - another member of the household can have membership (usually restricted in some way) at a cheaper rate, because they will share the magazine of the main household member.<<< Pittsburgh L

[lace] RE: Copyright

2004-08-26 Thread Helen Bell
Devon raises an interesting point. Some lace groups offer a Family membership - such as the ALG - which is a membership that applies to 'families' residing at the same location (someone will need to clarify this, but I think it applies to a parent and minor aged lacemaker). This is great for like

[lace] Re: Magazine sharing

2004-08-26 Thread Jane Partridge
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Vail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > I'm actually thinking >of cross-stitch and crochet magazines here, as those >are what I've subscribed to, but I don't see why lace >would be different. It's the same type of product >from a pattern issue. Especially as magaz

Re: [lace] Haven't a clue!

2004-08-26 Thread ann DURANT
Don't know - but could it have anything to do with Teneriffe Lace? Ann in Manchester, UK - Original Message - From: "Diana Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arachne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [lace] Haven't a clue! > Does anyone have any idea what

Re: [lace] Auction

2004-08-26 Thread dominique
Karisse Moore a décidé d' écrire à Ò[lace] AuctionÓ. [2004/08/26 01:40] > I don't know about the rest of you but those pictures of the lace put up > for > auction makes me drool. I wonder how long it took to make those wonderful > Chantilly skirts and how many women worked on them i was told i

Re: [lace] Re: fair winnings

2004-08-26 Thread ann DURANT
Dear Tamara and Spiders Way back, before I started making bobbin lace, it was suggested to me by a friend - another counted cross-stitch enthusiast - that I enter a class at her local show, which was open to anyone. I decided to enter a cross-stitch picture of a cat sitting among some delphinium

[lace] Tina through IOLI

2004-08-26 Thread Jean Nathan
Tamara wrote: There is a link to RMLG on the IOLI home page under conventions. I'm sure I used that link to get to 'Tina' several days ago, but perhaps I'm wrong and it's been added in the last couple of days. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:

[lace] Re: Magazine sharing

2004-08-26 Thread Chris Vail
*snip snip* > His reasoning, which I suppose is > the norm in magazine world, > is that the more people to whom the magazine is > passed, the more secure the > subscription. Mom, he claims, is not going to fail > to renew her subscription > if her daughter likes to read the magazine too. > We

re: [lace] pattern copyright

2004-08-26 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone and Pat who wrote: > I don't think the prices she charges refelect the time spent designing and then making the lace. Every piece she designs is made before the design is sold. There is nothing to stop you, Bev, from printing your own designs and selling them. Good points - to the firs

[lace] Honiton video.

2004-08-26 Thread Alice Howell
At 07:39 AM 8/26/2004, you wrote: As a beginner Bobbin Lacer I greatly benefited from step by step instruction video's. Since I have always loved the Honiton Lace and I have no access to a teacher in my area, I would like to see a production video done. A Honiton video exists. It is listed on Van

[lace] I need to know your option...

2004-08-26 Thread jpcam
As a beginner Bobbin Lacer I greatly benefited from step by step instruction video's. Since I have always loved the Honiton Lace and I have no access to a teacher in my area, I would like to see a production video done. Step by step instruction by a well known teacher of course. This would be a gre

[lace] one more thing about libraries and copyright

2004-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
Libraries do have a special place in copyright law. But in addition, they are affected by the fact that borrowers aren't buyers. Many magazines and journals have two subscription rates. The rate for institutions (e.g., libraries) is often three or four times the rate for individuals. This is to

RE: [lace] Intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>someone doesn't buy a book because then she will be unable to show the finished piece to her friends without getting permission from the author? <<< As the one who has been most vocal on this point, I have to say again--there's never been any claim that you can't show your work to your friends

[lace] Batteburg Lace Kit

2004-08-26 Thread Patricia Ann Fisher
Sunflower My sister has been doing some major cleaning of no longer needed craft items. Along the way a battenberg lace kit from Lacis was found. The kit makes one of three different patterns and has only been opened once. I have enough bobbin lace to keep me busy for the next few lives so I'm put

[lace] Intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Dmt11home
My understanding of the thought behind the copyright law is that it is an attempt to balance different interests. It recognizes that society benefits from creative work and innovation. Individuals will not create or invent if they will not reap some benefit from their efforts. The law seeks t

Re: [lace] Wired News Daily - Copyright Bill Needs Big Changes

2004-08-26 Thread Avital
The Inducing Infringement of Copyrights Act addresses the issue of peer-to-peer software, specifically designed for wide-scale piracy on digital networks, so I'm not sure how applicable this is to lacemaking. Avital > > From: "Helen Crews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > Copyright Bill Needs Big

[lace] Wired News Daily - Copyright Bill Needs Big Changes

2004-08-26 Thread Helen Crews
> Copyright Bill Needs Big Changes (Politics 2:00 a.m. PDT) > http://go.hotwired.com/news/politics/0,1283,64697,00.html/wn_ascii > > Technology companies and public-interest groups want to narrow the > scope of the controversial Induce Act to focus on those who engage in > 'mass, indiscriminate

[lace] Magazine sharing

2004-08-26 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 8/26/2004 1:29:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was partly covered when we were talking about International / National lace organisation membership appearing to dwindle because some lace makers can't or don't see the need to join large organisat

Re: [lace] pattern copyright

2004-08-26 Thread Scotlace
Bev wonders if any designers make a living out of their designs. Well, there are many who make part of their living from designing and selling their designs. One I know prints her designs onto red paper to prevent illegal photocopying for friends etc in order to protect her income. I don't thi

Re: [lace] pattern copyright

2004-08-26 Thread Scotlace
With regards to selling items made from other peoples' designs this happens all the time. I have collected soft toy patterns, both knitted and sewn, for about 40 years now. When I attend craft fairs I often seen knitted toys for sale designed by Jean Greenhowe among others. And I frequently r

[lace] pattern copyright

2004-08-26 Thread Rhiannon Mann
SORRY!! I'm a little behind on the emails and realise someone has already asked this..many apologies - but good to know where we stand Rhiannon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[lace] pattern copyright

2004-08-26 Thread Rhiannon Mann
In respect to this current thread I wondered if there was any copyright on items you produce and want to sell? Do they have to be your own patterns or can you make someone elses? Rhiannon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For