RE: [lace-chat] Re: Archaic Saying

2007-04-08 Thread Angel Skubic
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of H. Muth Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:21 PM To: Chat Arachne Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Re: Archaic Saying Hello all, I agree with Tamara about the first part of the saying and think that the second must be ruddy son of a bitch! I've never known how

RE: [lace-chat] Re: Archaic Saying

2007-04-08 Thread Webwalker
What a treat to get 2 digests in one day. But my take on the Archaic Saying is that the M sound of muddy is intended (working toward mother) -- just a little surprised that we are talking about pitch instead of fish as that would seem to supply the invective not suitable for the ears of

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Archaic Saying

2007-04-06 Thread H. Muth
Hello all, I agree with Tamara about the first part of the saying and think that the second must be ruddy son of a bitch! I've never known how 'ruddy' is an insult. I don't use any of these myself (in general, don't swear at all) but have heard them all at one time or another. Heather

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Archaic Saying

2007-04-06 Thread Thurlow Weed
Dear Spiders, Well now, I suppose that's plausible. As I understand it, ruddy is a reworking of bloody. For example, Gilbert Sullivan's Ruddigore was a play on Bloody Gore. Bloody was considered to be (and I believe still is) a rather rude adjectival epithet. Ruddy becomes a somewhat