This is both architectural and operational, but the architectural issues
govern, so posting here.
I've filed Bug #588304 (rollout of new Launchpad releases causes
read-only downtime) to have something we can triage and track. The
problem is very well known, of course, but it still helps to have
Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net writes:
https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/VirtualMachine documents in a pithy
form the key things I needed to figure out when doing this. Let me
know if there are questions it raises that aren't well answered by
existing docs.
Thank you! I've updated my
I've heard (second hand) that some developers have found it very useful
to do their Launchpad development in VMs. Then you can hose your
Postgres DBs with impunity, not worry about running rocketfuel-setup as
root, not worry about modifying /etc/hosts, etc.
Does anyone here have experience doing
Martin Pool m...@canonical.com writes:
On 4 February 2010 16:48, Ian Clatworthy ian.clatwor...@canonical.com wrote:
I'd like to re-use some existing icons in LP for menu options in
Explorer taking users to LP pages, particularly the icons for:
* critical bug
* patch available
Is that OK
Jeroen Vermeulen j...@canonical.com writes:
I don't think I follow the argument here. What kind of trust are you
talking about? If it's trust in honesty on our part, viewers already
have to trust that we deploy the same code we publish, with no hidden
tricks. If it's trust in timely
Jeroen Vermeulen j...@canonical.com writes:
This just came up and it happens to be something that we discussed
last cycle: users can now include username/password in URLs for their
revision control repositories when setting up a mirrored branch, but
currently the UI will display this information
Maris Fogels maris.fog...@canonical.com writes:
Danilo, I have a fix for this here:
lp:~mars/launchpad/fix-ec2-email-encoding
Maris, this makes me wonder: do we have a policy on where encoding of
strings happens? Some projects state that all strings beyond a certain
boundary in the API will be
Curtis Hovey curtis.ho...@canonical.com writes:
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 15:29 +0100, Julian Edwards wrote:
On Monday 12 April 2010 13:27:35 Curtis Hovey wrote:
mpt suggested that we rename the janitor to something very generic like
robot so that that it could be used in many processes. I prefer
Jonathan Lange j...@canonical.com writes:
* The mail has a full log attached in subunit format. The attachment
is named after the branch that was tested
Just curious: what order-of-magnitude log size are we talking about here?
___
Mailing list:
me know).
(Aaron, I missed your Pro tip mail somehow; if I'd paid more
attention, I could have saved myself an hour or two! Oh well.)
-K
Aaron Bentley aa...@canonical.com writes:
On 03/30/2010 04:34 PM, Karl Fogel wrote:
I recently upgraded my laptop to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid) beta
Max Bowsher m...@f2s.com writes:
Those instructions are starting to look rather overcomplicated.
1) launchpad-developer-dependencies depends on launchpad-dependencies so
there's no purpose to mentioning the latter explicitly
2) Rather than enumerating individual packages that are contained in
In case you haven't seen it yet:
http://gnomejournal.org/article/96/canonical-upgrading-gnome-bugzilla-and-commercial-sponsorship
Canonical, Upgrading GNOME Bugzilla, and Commercial Sponsorship
by Sumana Harihareswara
It's an article about how the GNOME Foundation and Canonical worked
Jorge O. Castro jo...@ubuntu.com writes:
Any idea what's going on here:
Bryce's homegrown report:
http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/patches.html
vs.
Launchpad: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+patches
[CC'ing the launchpad-dev list.]
Bryce and I just talked
Martin Pool m...@canonical.com writes:
I'm a bit conceptually blocked on this by waiting to hear what access
control rules are supposed to pertain to the help wiki, and getting
the actual rules to match that (if they differ). At the moment I can
edit the Clients page but not link it into the
In Bug #471195 (Private bugs don't set the body class to private), in
comment #3, I've attached a reproduction transcript that shows a problem
whereby javascript changes to classes (in the body element and one other
div element) appear not to take effect, even though they *do* take
effect in
Launchpad's web interface will be read-only for roughly 90 minutes, from
22.00 to 23.30 UTC, on Wednesday the 3rd of March 2010. Other aspects
of Launchpad -- including code hosting, PPAs, the API and email
interface -- will be unavailable during that time.
Starts: 22.00 UTC 3rd March
(This is a correction to a previous announcement -- we decided to do the
10.02 rollout one hour later for various boring logistical reasons.)
Launchpad's web interface will be read-only for roughly 90 minutes, from
23.00 UTC Wednesday 3rd March to 00.30 UTC Thursday 4th March, 2010.
Other aspects
Karl Fogel karl.fo...@canonical.com writes:
Since it's late in NY now, and many of the people who can answer this
question are in EU/UK time zones :-), I thought I'd post the question
here, to save me time rediscovering the wheel. If anyone knows some
good example code for this situation, please
Jamal Fanaian jamal.fana...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Karl Fogel karl.fo...@canonical.com wrote:
Of couse, we could *vastly* improve the situation by moving both
'merge_names_map' and 'known_canonical_devs' out to a wiki page, and
having the script consult
Jamal, you beat me to the fix. Nice! :-)
Bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/436862
is about the fact that the community-contributions.py script wouldn't
recognize the same person when they commit using different email addrs.
Latest progress on this feature:
All code is done *except* for UI change to offer the newly-available
sorting by patch age.
However, we still need some reviews to land this stuff (including DB
changes) so it's visible on staging. My understanding is that we just
land the devel branches on
Karl Fogel karl.fo...@canonical.com writes:
---
Enable the +patches view on persons and teams.
Wow, I got really confused between sorting-on-patch-age and
patches-view-for-persons-and-teams! Sorry about that.
I no longer
Martin Pool m...@canonical.com writes:
Hi Karl, this sounds like interesting stuff.
Could you put a screenshot of your work onto a bug somewhere, or point
me to it if I missed it?
I think Abel Deuring may be about to attach these to various bugs, but
for now just grab them here:
The +patches view code has landed on db-devel, which means it will be
live on https://staging.launchpad.net/ someday soon. But see below for
more on what soon means -- it can be, like, a couple of days :-(.
Many thanks to adeuring, intellectronica, and allenap for their
persistence in getting
Jonathan Lange j...@canonical.com writes:
= Blueprints =
* We use it
* Need tags (jml - Yes! And they should be bug tags)
Meaning share the same namespace as bug tags?
* Need organizational tools
* Wiki!
= Codehosting =
* Shortcuts to branch names (jml - can't remember what this means)
Curtis Hovey curtis.ho...@canonical.com writes:
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 11:45 -0500, Karl Fogel wrote:
Jonathan Lange j...@canonical.com writes:
= Blueprints =
* We use it
* Need tags (jml - Yes! And they should be bug tags)
Meaning share the same namespace as bug tags?
We need, and I do
Deryck Hodge deryck.ho...@canonical.com writes:
Mass bug editing indeed would be nice to have. I'm not sure I see the
connection to getting bugs off Ubuntu or bridging the gap, though.
If you're an upstream developer who has decided to dive into Ubuntu
bugs, just to see what needs to be
Curtis Hovey curtis.ho...@canonical.com writes:
Dear rocket scientists, Launchpad contributors, and any user who has
ever had to register a release.
I have made a significant change to what happens when a release is
registered. After 10.01's code is rolled into production, the release
managers
Michael Hudson michael.hud...@canonical.com writes:
Curtis Hovey wrote:
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 11:45 -0500, Karl Fogel wrote:
Jonathan Lange j...@canonical.com writes:
= Blueprints =
* We use it
* Need tags (jml - Yes! And they should be bug tags)
Meaning share the same namespace as bug tags
At the Bugs Sprint in Auburn, Alabama, USA last week, I showed the rest
of the team some customizations by which Emacs writes the boring parts
of my log messages for me. The team was interested enough -- or polite
enough to feign interest -- to ask me to put it in the dev wiki, which I
have now
Daniel Bültmann d...@comnets.rwth-aachen.de writes:
I have installed launchpad for internal usage within our organisation. I
basically followed:
https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting
https://dev.launchpad.net/Running
https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/RemoteAccess
https://dev.launchpad.net/Mail
This
Jonathan Lange j...@canonical.com writes:
9:00 - 10:00 Keynote: Gabriella Coleman (Auditorium)
Btw, Biella's awesome -- talk to her if you get a chance (and tell her
hi from me). She's an anthropologist who studies open source; I've
never seen a talk by her that wasn't fascinating. Don't skip
Karl Fogel karl.fo...@canonical.com writes:
Jonathan Lange j...@canonical.com writes:
The per-blog images on http://planet.launchpad.net/ are all broken,
e.g.
http://planet.launchpad.net/feedjack/planetlaunchpad/img/faces/lp-blog.png
I'm not sure how best to report this. How can I help fix
Bjorn Tillenius bj...@canonical.com writes:
Who here doesn't read planet.launchpad.net on a regular basis? I'm
guessing quite a few, since we haven't really advertised it.
We hadn't advertised it till now only because it didn't have its theme
(until very recently). Now it does, though, so I'm
Maris Fogels maris.fog...@canonical.com writes:
Here is the full text:
Thank you, Maris!
So there's no way to do it for just *.launchpad.net? (Hmm, makes me
want to write a browser plugin... :-) )
-Karl, the singular Fogel, to Maris, the plural Fogel
Fast is Beautiful
One of the most
Danilo Šegan dan...@canonical.com writes:
I am wondering if we have ever considered syncing more than just tip
from different upstreams?
It seems completely reasonable to me. What would prevent it right now?
* Does it work today? I'm going to experiment with a smallish GNOME
project.
*
Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc writes:
Sugar Labs has been looking at migrating to Launchpad for a while now, and
recently did a test bug import into a EC2 instance. It looked great!
However, our organization is fairly cautious about branding. We'd like
to give Launchpad services the appearance
Andrea Corbellini andrea.corbell...@beeseek.org writes:
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 01:57 -0400, Karl Fogel wrote:
Well, I'm reluctant to use precious front page real estate on that.
Instead, I've put some text on https://dev.launchpad.net/Running, in the
first section, on the theory that anyone
Florian Effenberger flo...@gmail.com writes:
My wording wasn't clear at all, sorry. What I meant was: the open
source distribution of Launchpad's code is meant to help improve
Launchpad.net.
Launchpad.net itself is meant for production use, of course: to help
free software projects and
Karl Fogel karl.fo...@canonical.com writes:
Florian Effenberger flo...@gmail.com writes:
thanks for the fast reply! I see... I thought LaunchPad was also
offered for production use but now I get the point that it is mainly
meant for developers. :-) Thanks for the fast help!
Yes, in the sense
2009/10/12 Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com:
Karl, should we have a closed team that is for canonical Launchpad devs plus
the community members who have signed the committer agreements? That would
facilitate having shared branches to which everyone can commit, like the one
we are using
In the thread starting here:
https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg01155.html
...Michael Bienia asks when the now-committed fix for bug #325367 (API
docs should have a table of contents) will be deployed. In reply,
Leonard Richardson said:
[geser's] change went into launchpadlib,
Michael Bienia mich...@bienia.de writes:
On 2009-10-05 23:19:12 -0400, Karl Fogel wrote:
Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com writes:
Or, since Leonard says that launchpadlib doesn't need the xslt, I'm
happy to have that moved into trunk.
+1. I had assumed that we'd upgrade launchpadlib
Herb McNew herb.mc...@canonical.com writes:
Max Bowsher m...@f2s.com writes:
Accordingly I've removed the link from https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting.
Removed from people.u.c/~herb
Thank you, Herb (and Max).
In another thread, there is talk that having a downloadable tarball is
really
Julian Edwards julian.edwa...@canonical.com writes:
We *could* generate a daily tarball automatically if it helps people on flaky
connections to get hold of our source.
I can't think of any other way to help people on flaky connections.
Generating a daily downloadable tarball is one solution,
Graham Binns gra...@canonical.com writes:
2009/10/7 Max Bowsher m...@f2s.com:
This might be a minority view, but personally I'm of the opinion that
getting a Launchpad dev instance up and running is sufficiently simple
and documented already.
The hard part is not the setup, its learning
Jonathan Lange j...@canonical.com writes:
Most of you probably know that Launchpad has a system in place called
Community Help Rotation. The idea is that the Canonical Launchpad
devs each take a turn at being the front-line support for Launchpad
itself. This guarantees that support requests
Gary Poster gary.pos...@canonical.com writes:
Karl's change went into launchpadlib, not Launchpad itself. (1.5.2,
the most recent launchpadlib release, has it.) To get the change into
Launchpad we need to bring Launchpad's launchpadlib dependency up to
date. I don't know how we go about doing
Max Bowsher m...@f2s.com writes:
Quoting https://dev.launchpad.net/API:
Authenticated Access Only
By design, there is no anonymous access through the API. You can do
read-only access (through a read-only token) but not anonymous access.
All API use is accounted to a person.
Why?
Graham Binns gra...@canonical.com writes:
2009/9/20 Max Bowsher m...@f2s.com:
The obvious followup question, then, is: Why is this treated any
differently to someone abusively screenscraping information from
Launchpad webpages?
The only way it's treated any differently is that we can cut a
Florian Effenberger flo...@gmail.com writes:
I'm fairly new to LaunchPad, but I wanted to set up my own instance
locally for hosting projects. I've followed the documentation in the
wiki, but unfortunately, at the point of make schema things don't
seem to work anymore:
Hi, Florian. You've
Barry Warsaw ba...@canonical.com writes:
4) Is there an automated moin-reST converter anywhere? (I couldn't
find one; I could only find reSt-foo.)
I'm not aware of one, but I think we can take the same opportunistic
conversion approach with wiki pages that we already take with
Barry Warsaw ba...@canonical.com writes:
As Francis points out, and perhaps as icky as it is, I think #2 is the
most practical solution. So maybe my encouragement was too strong,
but I still think it should be possible and allowed to write moin and
rest in the public Launchpad wikis.
Some
Barry Warsaw ba...@canonical.com writes:
Of course, it's a wiki so you can have your cake and eat it too. You
can situate the information close to similar content, and still keep a
page that collects links to these useful bits in one place.
Mmmm -- yes, especially if we can use anchors to
Barry Warsaw wrote in http://tinyurl.com/n7y27f:
Thanks to our fantastic IS department, you can now use
reStructuredText markup in our dev and help wikis. I highly encourage
you to use reST format instead of moin, as we're standardizing on
Python's own de-facto standard of reST markup.
This
Curtis Hovey curtis.ho...@canonical.com writes:
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 19:03 -0400, Karl Fogel wrote:
...
My guess is most people who use IRC know how to ignore the chatter
around them, when they're focused on a particular conversation. Do we
have evidence or experience to suggest that doing
James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net writes:
In truth though I neglected to read the log of the bug you posted and
thought One way to do this would be to use javascript to doctor the
location after the page has loaded were the only steps suggested in
the bug. Apologies for not reading it
Christian Robottom Reis k...@canonical.com writes:
They can get pretty noisy, yeah -- but I think the main issue is that
noise from the conversations in #launchpad-dev can bleed over the
reviews happening on #launchpad-reviews, and OCR is meant to be focused
and fast. That's my impression at
Michael Hudson michael.hud...@canonical.com writes:
I'm happy to report that the first visible result of my Build Engineer
stint is a wiki page explaining in some detail the mysteries of buildbot
and PQM and testfix mode: https://dev.launchpad.net/Trunk/Glue
I was very happy to be able to
There's a new wiki page showing contributions to Launchpad from
outside Canonical:
https://dev.launchpad.net/Contributions
The top of the page explains everything.
The page is auto-updated by a script. In theory, that happens via a
cron job every ten minutes; in practice, something seems
Christian Robottom Reis k...@canonical.com writes:
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 03:03:51PM -0400, Karl Fogel wrote:
I'm forwarding this message (with permission) just because it's a data
point on project-wide search and on domain branding -- neither of which
Launchpad does yet, though of the two
Francis J. Lacoste francis.laco...@canonical.com writes:
On August 28, 2009, Deryck Hodge wrote:
On Friday, August 28, 2009, Francis J. Lacoste
francis.laco...@canonical.com wrote:
On August 28, 2009, Matthew Revell wrote:
Monday: Kiko
Kiko won't cover his duties for at least 6 months.
Martin Pool m...@canonical.com writes:
In my experience this is a non-issue: you search google with 'distcc
connection refused' and it searches the list archives plus more
distribution-specific data or third-party data than will ever be
collected on the project site. Google will infer the
Barry Warsaw ba...@canonical.com writes:
= ReviewerMeeting20090826 =
== summary ==
* we need to find a way to allow outside contributors to run branches
through ec2
+1
* we need to open up lp-dev-utils project
This is happening now; Gary is wrapping it up, and it should be ready in
Michael Bienia mich...@bienia.de writes:
On 2009-08-16 23:45:08 +0100, Tom Berger wrote:
Yes, I agree. If you're already making a comment describing how to a
the bug, and are offering help to anyone wishing to fix it, the format
you suggested indeed looks optimal. I'll definitely make use of
Martin Pool m...@canonical.com writes:
Launchpad desperately needs a web page describing the system status.
If it's down, people need to know whether we know this and whether
we're working on it.
I think the cheapest thing that could possibly work is to
1- make a page help.l.n/SystemStatus
Francis J. Lacoste francis.laco...@canonical.com writes:
That's actually a forward port, and it's better to fix in lazr-restful
trunk first and then backport. (Because the test infrastructure is
much different in trunk than in Launchpad)
+1
As a general principle, isn't it always better to
Francis J. Lacoste francis.laco...@canonical.com writes:
As a general principle, isn't it always better to make changes in the
upstream, then port to any derivative branches? If we find ourselves
doing things differently, we should ask why...
Exactly. It's just that we are the upstream here.
Christian Robottom Reis k...@canonical.com writes:
The word production is misleading there, and I think it should be
changed to explain the whole story, but:
db-stable is deployed to launchpad.net on releases
db-stable is deployed to staging.launchpad.net daily
stable is deployed
I've had a multi-day yak-shaving spree with launchpadlib. Is this list
the right place to discuss launchpadlib? Let's find out...
Summary: launchpadlib depends on lazr.restful, apparently just for the
tests. However, this seems to make installs of trunk launchpadlib fail,
as per this
Martin Pool m...@canonical.com writes:
Someone should reply to the rest of them.
I responded to the questions there, and closed off the thread. It's
clear that getting Emacs to use the Launchpad bug tracker would require
a lot of effort. It's not worth weeks of anyone's time, which is what
it
William Grant m...@williamgrant.id.au writes:
The NULL project (https://launchpad.net/null) seems to be the dumping
ground for bug tasks that should be deleted, and is a part of
launchpad-project. This is a little unfortunate for those of us that
subscribe to launchpad-project bugmail, as a
Barry Warsaw ba...@canonical.com writes:
On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Christian Robottom Reis wrote:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:21:43PM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
+1 on this, which is much simpler and probably works just as well.
Still annoyed about people that want to move archives
Karl Fogel karl.fo...@canonical.com writes:
William Grant m...@williamgrant.id.au writes:
The NULL project (https://launchpad.net/null) seems to be the dumping
ground for bug tasks that should be deleted, and is a part of
launchpad-project. This is a little unfortunate for those of us
Christian Robottom Reis k...@canonical.com writes:
How do they handle these haphazard bug reports today? Are they emailed
in, and does the fact that they emailed means that the reporter gets
email back on any traffic related to that bug?
I'm asking because if they don't care if the user can
Just to follow up:
I updated the wiki with our recommendations, in this section on this new
page: https://dev.launchpad.net/BugHandling#responding
This technique isn't just for bug reports, obviously. It applies to
Questions too:
https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+question/79383
Matthew Revell matthew.rev...@canonical.com writes:
The page itself was very out of date, and didn't mention open
sourcing. I've quickly updated the page so that it points to the dev
wiki and no longer tells any obvious lies.
Thanks for making the updates.
It's perhpas worth some more
Karl Fogel karl.fo...@canonical.com writes:
Brad Crittenden b...@canonical.com writes:
* Notes from Reviewer Meetings will go to the public launchpad-dev
list in the future.
* Barry's item to update wiki about sponsoring contributions and take
RFC to mailing list did not appear to be done
Matthew and I did this, by the way. Please take a look; improvements
welcome.
-Karl
Karl Fogel karl.fo...@canonical.com writes:
Matthew Revell matthew.rev...@canonical.com writes:
I've popped an I want to... table on the help wiki front page:
https://help.launchpad.net/
Any thoughts?
Yeah
Joey Stanford j...@canonical.com writes:
I was just poking around https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project
and realized that we have not yet changed the licenses of the projects
under launchpad-project to AGPL (they are still marked proprietary).
1) Karl and/or Brad, would be so kind as
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