RS232 Displays for LVRT

Hi all, Does anyone know of any display (preferably touchscreen, but not necessarily) that can be controlled over RS232 interface (rather than a video board or chipset)? I need to connect a local display to a system running LabVIEW RT, and it looks like RS232 is the only option that I have. I don'

Can we acquire the Analog input and Digital Input at

Can we acquire the Analog input and Digital Input at the same time? My sensor data include Analog and digital signals.

RE: Dual monitors for labview use

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Scott Serlin wrote: > What is the difference in performance I could see between running two > separate pci cards, one pci card and one agp card, or one dual-monitor > card? > most likely, zero difference if you by a recent agp dual head card. possibly fewer driver issue

How to write a square wave to an output pin and vary its frequency?

I am using the PCI-6014 and i am interested in generating a square wave as an output using a PFI pin. how can i use a square wave from labview to send it to an output on the PCI6014 board

Re: Dual monitors for labview use

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Uwe Frenz wrote: > Win NT & 2k (no knowledge on XP yet) handle multiple monitors as two > windows to a large and unique desktop, whereas Win9x used to have multiple > independend desktops that just had to share one side with each other. This > might be important, because alm

scaling graph to frequency?

i have succesfully read in data from a digital input and managed to store in a text file. This data appears to be most likely an ASCII format. Are there ASCII to number converters? I would also like to now use this data and perform analysis on them.For example using the FFT etc. I have managed to r

Programmatically use Windows 2000 group permissions

I would like to allow functions within a 6i vi based on a user's inclusion in a group on the domain. I am able to determine the user's identity but have not been able to determine their access permissions. I've tried to figure out windows API calls but no luck. Eg: If in the technician group they

File/open properties

Can anyone tell me how to adjust the display settings whenever I open a labview VI from file/open? I like to see the "details" file view (not icons, etc) and sort by filedate and have a larger window than what normally pops up? If this question doesn't make sense, let me know and I will rephrase

Serial Port

Hi I have done data acquisition using NI DAQ card for one of my projects. Right now, have a small project in which data needs to be acquired from a serial port. The system has a temperature controller unit which sends data to the serial port and needs to be collected using LabView. How different

Re: subPanel: The coordinate system seems all scr... up? AND How...

Thanks! - Martin

Re: subPanel: The coordinate system seems all scr... up? AND How...

Coming to think of it I actually found out on the way home in the train about the graphical correlation - however I experienced it when building an executeable and running it on a desktop with a different resolution. The origin property tip is super! I'll include that when I get to work again -- h

RE: Dual monitors for labview use

Can this feature, two independent desktops be implemented in win2k or winXP? Also, regarding the potential invisible area on the screen, can't you just go to a small resolution on the larger screen so that the two screen match? I have to commend this list as I would never have thought about a dua

Re: Read Trajectory Data Function and 7344 card

Chris, The difference is the hardware 3ms is a 7350 and 7344 is the 10 ms. The diference is which card you by. A Talley Applications Engineering National Instruments

Re: Main VI stops when using control references.

I tried that and it works but the zero outside the loop which resets the shift register to zero each time the loop starts must be removed so the engine accelerates. I just need to figure out how to reset the speed to zero after I've stopped and restarted the main vi without have to close it and re

Re: Can we control the queue processing speed in labview?

Please post some code for us to look at. That will let us help you, Ben

Re: Main VI stops when using control references.

the Engine Momentum Subvi should finish execution with each iteration of the loop in the DAQ.vi Therefore , connect a constant Boolean set to True to the condiotional terminal of the while Loop of the Engine Momentum Subvi (instead of the stop value from the main vi)

Re: Project update from Labview 6.02 to 7.0 caused cpu usage...

I have not seen that myself but I can pass along some ideas. In LV 7 there is now the option to designate on a VI by VI basis, the "release memory as soon as possible". If this is turned on for a VI that uses large amounts of memory and called repeatedly, this could cause issues. Another more lik

Re: how to enlarge the picture in the picture control at the ...

Hi, There are a couple of ways you can achieve this: >From front panel: 1) Click on the control. 2) Click on Edit (in the front panel menu bar) >> Scale Object with Panel Programmatically: 1) Open a reference to the VI. 2) Use an invoke node method called 'Set FP Scaling". 3) Set the scaling mod

Re: Using Tabs with Subvi's

"The problem is that I can't read a tab page number selected from a main program while I'm in a subvi" Yes you can! When you call the sub-VI, pass it a reference to the the tab control in question. Inside the sub-VI, use the "value" property node to check the displayed tab page. If it changes, t

How to with xy graph

Hello everyone, want to ask people first before using my own brain as there are too much snow stucking in my head. Does anyone know how to: 1. Update a xy graph point by point without plot the whole graph everytime. 2. Update only one selected curve in a multiple curves xy graph without having to r

Re: How can i display the signal out of a FFT block to a graph?

Hello St. Augustine, You should not need to do any conversion from the output of the FFT VIs to the waveform graph. Make sure, however, that you are wiring into a Waveform Graph.vi and not the Waveform Chart.vi. Regards, Jyoti F. National Instruments

Re: how can I create a simulated hardware configuration in MAX Measurement & Automation Explorer

There really isn't anyway to fake having a DAQ board, and w/o a DAQ board, you're going to get errors when trying to communicate to it. You can either: 1) Remove the hardware commands and use simulated dsta. http://exchange.ni.com/servlet/ProcessRequest?RHIVEID=101&RPAGEID=135&HOID=50650008000

low level device drivers

OK, I think I am in over my head. :) I am considering using a PCI card (Sabtech NTDS interface card for those interested), and it doesn't seem to have a nice simple DLL like I am use to. Instead it has a kernel mode Windows 2000 device driver, and I am expected to use "...normal Windows I/O syst

Re: how does the interface to ADO drivers work?

I'm using the ActiveX interface. Mike...

Re: 34970A VI?

If you're talking about an HP/Agilant, there are vi's included with the driver: http://zone.ni.com/idnet97.nsf/9b2b33e1993d877786256436006ec498/e4c553c139f78062862568ab005fba3c?OpenDocument See also: http://exchange.ni.com/servlet/ProcessRequest?RHIVEID=101&RPAGEID=135&HOID=506500080017860

Re: How do you reset the encoder count with LV?

STK, Yes "Rest Encoder Count" is for resetting a unmapped encoder. For an encoder that is mapped use "Reset Position" This will change the value of the encoder that is mapped to an axis. A. Talley Application Engineer National Instruments

Re: Unable to lock memory chunk, unable to allocate memory

Hello Matute, Thank you for contacting National Instruments. Try looking at the discussion thread linked below. It concerns a problem similar to yours. http://exchange.ni.com/servlet/ProcessRequest?RHIVEID=101&RNAME=ViewQuestion&HOID=5065000800BEA7&ECategory=LabVIEW.LabVIEW+General

Re: Write hex code to pic with serial port, any example?

Hello Jose, Thank you for contacting National Instruments. The following link leads to a discussion thread about hex to ASCII serial communication. http://exchange.ni.com/servlet/ProcessRequest?RHIVEID=101&RNAME=ViewQuestion&HOID=5065000800F544&ECategory=Instrument+Connectivity.Seria

Re: Sequence tunnel error

One of the problems with the sequence structure is that data doesn't leave any of the frames until the last frame is done. I suspect that that is what you are seeing if the data is modifed in a later frame.

Project update from Labview 6.02 to 7.0 caused cpu usage...

Project update from Labview 6.02 to 7.0 caused cpu usage 100%. Anybody experienced this and how you fixed it? Thanks. I had an application written in Labview 6.02 without cpu usage problems. I updated it to in Labview 7.0. When I ran either source code or the .exe file, it all caused cpu usage to

Re: Some Problems with LabVIEW and Matlab DLLs

Hello spj. I have taken a look at your issue. It sounds like what is happening could be expected behavior. When you re-build your script into a DLL, as is mentioned in your post, it will re-register the COM object to Windows. Therefore, even though the names and locations are the same, the DLL

Re: How to compile wavread on MatLab Script?

Janet, Remove the quotes around blah. Just put in your MATLAB Script Node f=wavread(blah) With the quotes, MATLAB was trying to read the string 'blah', and not the blah input, which is 'annano.wav' Zvezdana S. National Instruments

Re: P4 Hyper-Threading and LabVIEW7Express

I tested a application at home (PII) an found it is never running OK. Then I tested it in the office (P4 with Hyperthreading) and found it was running OK or not. The configuration was not always written when closing the app. By design the app is multithreaded. There is a thread which loads and sto

Re: Using a "fopen" call in a DLL made with MatLab for Labview

Dear Juan Crespo, normally I don't answer questions concerning Matlab because I have no experience with it. But your question was waiting a long time and had to do something with DLL I decided to look at it. Your C code has a serious error. You are declaring a variabale named "in1" as "double *".

NI SEC Invoke Loging Dialog

I=B4m using a NI SEC Invoke Loging Dialog.vi in my application but when I compile it in a stand alone .exe file, the NI SEC Invoke Loging Dialog doesn=B4t work.

Cheaper computer component's supplier OT

This is slightly off topic but nonetheless pertains to us computer Labview guys. Can you guys post a website/company that has the cheapest components? I use newegg.com. I've seen tigerdirect (high shipping charges and Illinois taxes hit me with them). Who else is out there? New, used, refurbis

Re: subPanel: The coordinate system seems all scr... up? AND How...

The top-left corner of the subPanel uses the same coords as the top-left corner of your saved sub VI. Also the "subPanel document size" will be the same size as your running VI. I.E. the sub VI's should have the same placement / appearance as "regular" VIs, or exsiting in a subPanel. If you want

Re: Problem with DAQMX digital output

Hi V.GRAF, The DAQ 6025E is a special card in terms of digital I/O. This is because it has two different semiconductor chips handling the digital. It has the DAQ-STC chip handling the first port of 8 bits (Port 0). It then has the 8255 chip handling the 3 other ports. In general, you should be a

Re: Sequence tunnel error

Ok guys here where I stand. I tried to pull the significant parts of the code out and put them in a new VI soo that i could post it to the board, but When i did so the new VI worked flawlessly. So i toyed around more removin parts of the sequence and different frames. I have narrowed it down to

Re: Why does converting a SGL to SGL get rid of coersion dots?

The algorithm for determining resulting data types gets much more complicated when using uninitialized shift registers. The algorithm used by the binary arithmetic functions is slightly different than the algorithm used by the compound arithmetic function. It was determined that the algorithm use

Using Tabs with Subvi's

I wish to have each page of a tab control be used with a subvi. One for graphs, one for data entry,etc and wish to have the tab page number start and stop the selected subvi. Up until now I have been using 'run on open' and a seperate stop button for each subvi. I tried creating dummy tab pages an

Re: Labview PDA using RS232

I was looking for a solution to this question!

Re: Main VI stops when using control references.

Assuming you use the VI server to load the subvi dynamically, when loading the vi, the "Wait to finish" must be set to false, so your main loop does not wait for the subvi to finish. When the main loop is waiting for the subvi to finish, that case (loop) is "halted". Joe

Re: P4 Hyper-Threading and LabVIEW7Express

I have had programs that don't run correctly with Hyperthreading turned on. I asked NI about this and they say that they know LabVIEW doesn't work with Hypertheading!! For some reason they don't think it is important enough to mention on their web site. This is the message I got from NI: Hello Bru

RE: Dual monitors for labview use

At 10:34 -0600 02/13/2004, Scott Serlin wrote: >What is the difference in performance I could see between running two >separate pci cards, one pci card and one agp card, or one dual-monitor >card? Depends on what else you use the PCI bus for. It is slower performance for raw bit pushing than the

RE: Serial comms

Hello Craig, I would like to recommend PortMon -- a freeware utility to monitor all serial (and parallel) port activity with myriad features. http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/portmon.shtml I've found it to be an invaluable tool for troubleshooting serial comm issues.. in fa

Re: Acquiring data continuously with a start and stop trigger

Thanks for your help!

Re: Filtering waveform?

LabVIEW 6.1 offers some few resampling options with the low level VIs. (Linear and Spline interpolation). See for example the VI attached to this reply: http://exchange.ni.com/servlet/ProcessRequest?RHIVEID=101&RPAGEID=137&HOID=5065000500CE580100&HTHREAD=88270&UCATEGORY_0=_49_%24_6_&UC

Dual Monitors

Scott! My favorite LabVIEW topic AND I use a Belkin switch to use another computer. I’ve worked with 2 Dual-head video cards and there are differences. My Favorite: Matrox G550 (or 450 older version) works, works works, Windows resolution supported upto 1280 x 2096 Kinda Okay : Nvida – has some

RE: Dual monitors for labview use

Scott: - except for intense 3D games, the bus configuration (PCI vs AGP) shouldn't make a huge difference. - I think your performance will be more affected by which card you choose than by the bus configuration (personally, I do like Matrox). - unless you have nothing better to do with your PCI bu

Re: Dual monitors for labview use

I seem to have more limitations imposed on me by the monitor than the video card. According to the G550 specs, it has "dual integrated RAMDACs", a 360MHz Primary and a 230 MHZ Secondary. It claims up to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the main display, but my monitor can't go that fast. Likewise, the secon

NI reduced prices on some DAQ equipment

I was on NI's website and noticed that they are offering discounts on several of their popular DAQ devices... Dan Bookwalter N8DCJ Hi-Stat a Stoneridge Co. 345 South Mill St. Lexington, Ohio 44904 (419) 884-1219 Phone (419) 884-4172 Direct (419) 884-4195 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Able to reset the board from MAX but not from my LABVIEW6.1 program

Jonnie 5 gave you the best advice regarding solving your problem - post your code. I just wanted to add that when you say "Labview standard program", it doesn't mean an awful lot. There are several shipping examples of serial communication and they are different depending on which versioon of LabVI

Re: tutorial to build CGI application

Hello Philippe, Here is a link to the CGI tutorial we currently have on our website: http://zone.ni.com/devzone/conceptd.nsf/webmain/E8A8D4B9497A1E1E86256802007B8E06?opendocument. It is not step by step, but I think it will help you. Also, if you need help with building your application into an e

RE: Dual monitors for labview use

What is the difference in performance I could see between running two separate pci cards, one pci card and one agp card, or one dual-monitor card? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Whitaker Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:59 AM To: [EMAI

Re: Associate a type of file with a LV7 app

"Dany Allard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   >Is it possible to associate a type of file, like *.txt with Notepad.exe, >with a LV7 app. >I know that LV7 have a new feature that permit to retrieve the command line >used to call the app. >But I don’t think that would be useful for what I want to do. >

why I hate express vis.....

This is obviously my grumpy morning. And I have even had my prescribed dosage of coffee... I have been working with some software from a major instrumentation manufacturer. It is one of those VIs that tries to do everything with multiple tabbed front panels and lots of user interface controls

Re: i created boolean references in my main vi block diagram and...

Does the reference in the subVI say "Bool Refnum" on it or is it a "Control Refnum"? You also might try right clicking on the refnum in the subVI and selecting "Include Data Type". This will turn on or off the strictly typed reference property. That's where I ran into problems. Rob

Main VI stops when using control references.

Hi, This is my first question on this forum. I've created an engine simulation VI which uses control references. The main VI has a data acquistion loop and control references. The control references link to another VI that runs an equation loop which continuously calculates engine speed base on da

RE: LabVIEW 7 Numeric Display precision - or Please Kill me now!

Hi All   I quickly put together a small utility allowing to change selected controls on a VI panel. It allows enabling/disabling the "hide trailing zero" feature, and selection of the precision (it can be easily modified to do more if necessary). If someone is interested, contact me directly   PJM

Re: Standalone application installation

Shankar Subramanian, Your development system license for the application builder covers installation of the run time system on a client's machine. Additional licenses are required for some of the add-on toll kits. -- EnWirementally, Paul F. Sullivan -

Re: LabVIEW 7 Numeric Display precision - or Please Kill me now!

Jack, You wrote: Who’s the darn fool at NI that set the default mode for numeric displays to “Hide Trailing Zero’s”. ...And don’t start that “modify your Ini” line – I work on many different computers and can’t go customizing the modifying every single one. I'm not sure it's any easier than modif

Re: motion control feedback (analog) PID

Wayne We had some issues recently with a motion control equipment uisng NI PCI7344 board and NI MID (... cant remember the number there) controller. The system used servo with encoder (Brand: Techno Isel). Occasionnelly the system will go at MAX speed and MAX velocity to some location (the hardware

What is the purpose of upgrading?

This contains very discouraging interview with Bill Gates. With a decidedly biased opinion piece, but certainly an educated discussion. http://billpalmer.net/com000144.html The full interview is Obligatory LV content Do bugs get fixed between ve

Re: Serial comms

At 12:30 + 02/13/2004, Craig Graham wrote: >The next is in the other port settings. The manual specifies 1 start bit, 8 >data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity. The VISA serial stuff in Labview 7, which >I've only just started playing with, has properties for stop bits, data bits >and parity which I'

Re: mouse up event on a slide

Sorry, I misunderstood your problem. I was able to re-create your problem. This could be considered a bug, moving off slider before letting mouse up should return the pointer to its original value, but it does not. So now your event doesn't fire because it never saw a mouse up event on the slide

Re: unable to read the frequency from this output sine wave of amplitude VS time

I don't really see the utility of this VI, however, the variable "scan rate", of the "LJstream graph processing", it's an arbitrary value, why?... What is the idea with these VIs?, tell me more, please. Bye.

Frequency spectrum of IFFT output

Output of IFFT block is summation of N orthogonal sinusoids. These sinusoids each have different frequency and the lowest is 0 (DC). In reality output is array of complex numbers which represent complex weight for corresponding sinusoidal basis function. I neeed to know how to present output signal

Re: Problem with array processing !!!

It's due to the fact that you are displaying all those 100 000 values and updating them in the indicator on every iteration. If you move the indicator outside of the loop so that it will only be updated when the processing is finished things will run fast.

Re: Problem with DAQMX digital output

Yes, the 6035 is supported (unless you're running win 95... or 3.1... you are on windows, right?) See: http://www.ni.com/support/daq/versions.htm The troubleshooter reffed above is at: http://www.ni.com/support/install/

conflicts between property nodes

I am using property nodes on image display to set the position center ( X and Y ) and the zoom (X and Y). When using only position center property nodes everything works fine , but if i set the zoom value with property nodes the position center doesn't work any more, the image stays in the default

Re: Dual monitors for labview use

John, you wrote: > I am using a Matrox G550, and it > works wonderfully! (21",[EMAIL PROTECTED] + 17", [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thats about or little above the specs, AFAIK. The highres requires a pixel clock of >160 MHz. The video bandwidth of that chips is not far beyond 250 MHz, so the signal quality

RE: LabVIEW 7 Numeric Display precision - or Please Kill me now!

Jack, I have started playing with LabVIEW 7 recently and this is already starting to drive me batshit. My high school science teachers would dock marks for failing to properly account for significant figures. To a physicist (and I assume for other technically inclined professionals) 0, 0.00 and

Re: Clusters: How to remove the 3D shaded background?

Don't you just hate it when that happens? :) Eric

Re: Filtering waveform?

How can i do re-sampling in LabVIEW 6.1?

Re: i created boolean references in my main vi block diagram and...

The easiest way to do this is to wire the references to a sequence structure. Then select the sequence structure and under "Edit" select create subvi. THis will create a subvi with the references connected and you will have the reference controls in the subvi. This could be happening because of

Re: Problem with DAQMX digital output

Are you using the daqmx functions? If so please post the code. Or you can try using the Daq assistant. This will step you through the process of configuring a digital output. hope this helps.

Re: How can i display the signal out of a FFT block to a graph?

Hi, For the Y-axis, it depends of the input data binaries. I mean, if these come from a voltage signal or a collection of data or a sound signal, etc. It's necessary to know the factor conversion the voltage values, for example... And for the X-axis, that represents the axis of frequencies, and

Re: divider, advice needed, please

Hello guys; Firstly let me thank a few people who answered my question, regarding dividing a signal freq. The funny thing is that the whole concept looks so easy and so trivial, but IT DOES NOT WORK! All the people who answered me told me to use "Down Counter or Divider Config.Vi" I can swear

Re: Dual monitors for labview use

>>> Uwe Frenz 02/13/04 02:49AM >>> ...but almost all dual monitor cards should work well too. ... This may be true in general, although I saw one dual monitor card do nasty things. The brand name was something like Apien or Apex or something like that. (does that sound familiar to anyone?) It w

Re: Clusters: How to remove the 3D shaded background?

Well here is a golden nugget hidden at the bottom of a pile of fluff! Transparent Front Panle Backgrounds! I wounder what I could do with that? Ben

i created boolean references in my main vi block diagram and...

i created boolean references in my main vi block diagram and copied them to my sub vi front panel. when wire my reference in my main vi to one the input node of the sub vi the wire is broken. the error says its a class conflict why? i created boolean references in my main vi block diagram and copi

RE: LabVIEW 7 Numeric Display precision - or Please Kill me now!

Try setting the displays to "digits of precision" instead of "significant digits" The other annoyance (for DBL controls and indicators) is that they set the default formatting to "automatic" with 6 significant digits. How many times do you want to see 6 digits after each number? I'd like to se

Re: Optimizing network throughput over Ethernet with TCP/IP

Ethernet packets are range from 46-1500bytes, or there abouts, so anything is being broken up. Well, anything over 1500 bytes. I'll give the even multiples of 32768 a try and see how that goes. (Well, there seems to be support for frame sizes up to 9000 bytes in Gigabit Ethernet.) I'm going to

Re: Why does converting a SGL to SGL get rid of coersion dots?

Well changing the setting and re-opening LV is not enough to fix this issue. Since the wire has to be dis-connected and then re-connected to get rid of the coercion, this has to be an issue with what LV is doing at edit time. So... Ben

Re: pressure versus cranck angle encoder reading

Hello Al, If you want a pressure reading for each pulse of the encoder, all you have to do is use your encoder output A (provided its a TTL pulse train) as the clock source of a continuous analog input acquisition. Look for analog input examples that use an external clock source. Since it sounds l

Re: DAQ+storage must happen independent of other screens OR user interaction

There are some examples how to use named queue. LV 6.0.2: Search Examples >> Advanced Examples >> Execution control Examples >> Synchronisation examples >> Named Queue LV 6.1 & LV 7.0: Find Examples >> Optimizing Applications >> Synchronizing Tasks >> Queue Message Loging.vi In this example they

Re: How to compile wavread on MatLab Script?

Also, check out this link - don't know if it addresses your problem. http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/websearch/4475BC3CEB062C9586256D750058F14B?OpenDocument

Re: How to compile wavread on MatLab Script?

When you say it will not compile, do you mean you've got a broken arrow or you get an error? If broken arrow, what does the error list say the problem is? If you're getting an error out of the Matlab Script structure, what is it? I've tried this on LV 6.1 and Matlab 6.5 and it works fine for me.

I need that Programm for LV 5.0

thank you jonnie 5 but there are only programs for LV 6.0 can I download programs for version 5.0 or a LV-Update

Re: network oscilloscope

Matthew, thanks for your answer. The Scope Chart Mode is very interesting.. I actually wanted to know how to implement the way a DSO works in LV (setting trigger level and timebase etc.), but this isn't necessary anymore since I decided to use my dsp to calculate the data to be plot, hence acting a

motion control feedback (analog) PID

Hi there LV'ers I have a few motion control problems that are, to quote ' doin my head in'. I have a system that uses both encoder and analog feedback at varying times during the program operation. This all seems to work fine with the system configuring and re-configuring the analog/encoder et

Re: Dual monitors for labview use

Hi Scott, > Can anyone tell me what graphic cards work well with respect to using > dual monitors and labview? How does the graphic card handle moving the > display data from one monitor to another. I was considering the ATI > Radeon 9800XT. Great for gaming as well. I remember someone talking >

Re: Vi converted to LabView 7.0 Error

Hi Dr. Imad, another workaround is described http://exchange.ni.com/servlet/ProcessRequest?RHIVEID=101&RPAGEID=135&HOID=5065000800939B&UCATEGORY_0=_49_%24_6_&UCATEGORY_S=0";>here. Search for my answer. This is a conversion bug in LV 7.0 and the workaround is first load it into LV 7.0 t

Re: Dual monitors for labview use

Scott, you asked on Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:26:27 -0600: > Can anyone tell me what graphic cards work well with respect to using > dual monitors and labview? How does the graphic card handle moving the > display data from one monitor to another. I was considering the ATI > Radeon 9800XT. Great for g