Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-24 Thread Lord Satan
Hi, some of you should try metacity with compositing enabled. Not as bloated as compiz. $ gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true or you can use gconf-editor as usual. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-p

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-23 Thread Flávio Etrusco
2009/1/23 Reenen Laurie : >> > But doing some more basic stuff... I dunno, like scrolling in firefox on >> > a >> > window with some flash, javascript etc. is slow and sluggish. >> >> >> Oh yes! This one drives me nuts! I don't know what causes it, but >> yes, Firefox is sometimes dog slow when sc

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-23 Thread Reenen Laurie
> > > But doing some more basic stuff... I dunno, like scrolling in firefox on > a > > window with some flash, javascript etc. is slow and sluggish. > > > Oh yes! This one drives me nuts! I don't know what causes it, but > yes, Firefox is sometimes dog slow when scrolling pages. Yet while > using

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2009/1/23 Reenen Laurie : > I run linux on a PC with an on-board intel graphics adapter, about 3y old. > When I enable some of the "bloat" it is actually more responsive than some > of the things that are supposed to be the "standard" stuff... My work PC is around 5 years old and has a integrated

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Reenen Laurie
I run linux on a PC with an on-board intel graphics adapter, about 3y old. When I enable some of the "bloat" it is actually more responsive than some of the things that are supposed to be the "standard" stuff... eg. Compiz stuff, like enhanced zoom (AWESOME tool, press Hyper - Mouse Scroll, and i

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Marco van de Voort ha escrit: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 09:41:56AM +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: >> En/na Graeme Geldenhuys ha escrit: >> >>> I definitely don't think it's the X architecture, but rather the bloat >>> in the desktop environments like Gnome and KDE. I often test the fpGUI >>> Too

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: >> Probably yes, but combined with the fact that those teams seem to be more >> interested in developing yet another new internal architecture every two >> years rather than optimize the current one. > > > That is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Optimizati

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > I definitely don't think it's the X architecture, but rather the bloat > in the desktop environments like Gnome and KDE. IMO Vista introduces an similar bloat to the GUI, and I don't find it slow, on my machine (one year old, dual core...), neather native nor in a V

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote: > > Probably yes, but combined with the fact that those teams seem to be more > interested in developing yet another new internal architecture every two > years rather than optimize the current one. That is exactly the kind of thing I'm

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 09:41:56AM +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: > En/na Graeme Geldenhuys ha escrit: > > > I definitely don't think it's the X architecture, but rather the bloat > > in the desktop environments like Gnome and KDE. I often test the fpGUI > > Toolkit on various DE's and Window Manager

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > Probably because they're doing a lot less than Gnome/KDE? That's true, but is all that extra "fluff" really needed! I also think many developers are becoming sloppy with their programming. There is no excuse for inefficient and bloated c

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Thierry Andriamirado
Le mercredi 21 janvier 2009 à 15:42 +0100, c...@freemail.hu a écrit : > Celeron 1700 CPU, 512MB RAM, 200GB HDD (10 GB for Ubuntu), Integrated > Video, but I think it should be decent enough for running Linux. There was Intel integrated video? There's big issues with (all?) Intel integrated, si

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Graeme Geldenhuys ha escrit: > I definitely don't think it's the X architecture, but rather the bloat > in the desktop environments like Gnome and KDE. I often test the fpGUI > Toolkit on various DE's and Window Managers. I have about 7 different > Window Managers installed on my system. Mos

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:11 PM, wrote: > The main reason Linux is becoming important for us is to target small > companies where price matters a lot. This far I thought that Linux would be > superior to XP possibly even with weaker machines. The exact reason our company is targeting Linux as we

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Flávio Etrusco wrote: > > Let's be honest here: current versions of both GNOME and KDE are quite > slower than XP UI. I have to agree! I am a huge Linux fan and hardly ever work on Windows anymore (other than for quick application tests). > It always felt a bit

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-21 Thread ik
null On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:11 PM, wrote: > "Let's be honest here: current versions of both GNOME and KDE are quite > slower than XP UI. > > It always felt a bit slower - what I and many others assumed to be > caused by the X architeture or lack of hardware acceleration - but > benchmarks see

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-21 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Dear Leslie , I am also studying many Linux , FreeBSD , Solaris , OpenSolaris distributions to find an easily usable one with the condition that my program when becomes ready can be run on it as attached to a network . I bought more than 10 hard disks with a smallest ( GigaByte / price )

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-21 Thread cc_
"Let's be honest here: current versions of both GNOME and KDE are quite slower than XP UI. It always felt a bit slower - what I and many others assumed to be caused by the X architeture or lack of hardware acceleration - but benchmarks seemed to differ. Anyway "Linux" UI performance has been on a

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-21 Thread Flávio Etrusco
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Bernd Mueller wrote: > c...@freemail.hu wrote: >> Thanks for the answers and suggestions everyone! >> >> The speed issue I have is that simple things, like popup menues, clicking on >> tabs of a pagecontrol, changing tasks ...almost everything is handled too >> sl

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-21 Thread Bernd Mueller
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > I run Windows 2000 under a VMWare in linux, and it is dog slow. Try VirtualBox ;-) > I think we are more measuring the speed of VMWare and their drivers > than the actual guest OS. you may be right, in VirtualBox you have to install the so called "Guest Addition

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-21 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Bernd Mueller wrote: > c...@freemail.hu wrote: > > Thanks for the answers and suggestions everyone! > > > > The speed issue I have is that simple things, like popup menues, clicking > > on > > tabs of a pagecontrol, changing tasks ...almost everything is handled too > >

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-21 Thread Bernd Mueller
c...@freemail.hu wrote: > Thanks for the answers and suggestions everyone! > > The speed issue I have is that simple things, like popup menues, clicking on > tabs of a pagecontrol, changing tasks ...almost everything is handled too > slowly. Compared to what I am used to, the delay is quite dis

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-21 Thread cc_
Thanks for the answers and suggestions everyone! The speed issue I have is that simple things, like popup menues, clicking on tabs of a pagecontrol, changing tasks ...almost everything is handled too slowly. Compared to what I am used to, the delay is quite disturbing. The other kind of slow

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-20 Thread Jon Bertrand
> After installing Ubuntu 8.1 with > gnome desktop I was quite surprised that the user interface felt quite > slugish. Odd, I've built several Ubuntu systems from 7.10 and 8.04 and 8.10 and I've been happy with the speed. Three of the systems are Mythtv boxes and they do a fine job of HDTV.

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-20 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
c...@freemail.hu schrieb: > I have never used Linux before, but it is becoming an important > development target platform for us now. After installing Ubuntu 8.1 with > gnome desktop I was quite surprised that the user interface felt quite > slugish. The same machine with XP works as expected.

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Schneider
Am Dienstag, 20. Januar 2009 13:29:45 schrieb c...@freemail.hu: > > - Is there a way to speed up Ubuntu? (drivers, other GUI ...) right driver for the Graphiccard? > What Linux distro's are the > recommended targets for Lazarus apps? deb-based (Debian,Ubuntu etc) rpm-based (Red Hat,Suse etc) ht

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-20 Thread Reenen Laurie
Specifying exactly what parts are slow could help us identify it. What is your PC's Specs? Ubuntu 8.1 is a newer OS by about 7 years to XP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp), so it might have some underlying assumptions about your hardware. It could be that you have a high-end graphics c

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-20 Thread Henry Vermaak
2009/1/20 : > Hello, > > I have never used Linux before, but it is becoming an important development > target platform for us now. After installing Ubuntu 8.1 with gnome desktop I > was quite surprised that the user interface felt quite slugish. The same > machine with XP works as expected. It is

Re: [Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-20 Thread ik
What does work slower ? The GUI (if so it might be because some wrong configuration or wrong driver) Something else ? What was installed on the machine ? if there are many daemons and services running, it will make things slower ... Ido 2009/1/20 : > Hello, > > I have never used Linux before, b

[Lazarus] Linux

2009-01-20 Thread cc_
Hello, I have never used Linux before, but it is becoming an important development target platform for us now. After installing Ubuntu 8.1 with gnome desktop I was quite surprised that the user interface felt quite slugish. The same machine with XP works as expected. It is hard to believe for m

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Binary without "dynamically linked"?

2008-08-25 Thread Aleš Katona
Dňa Po, 2008-08-25 o 13:32 -0700, Jalal napísal: > This is more of a FPC question, but I know FPC gurus visit here... > > The file program on Debian shows my Linux command line binary like > this: > > ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically > linked (uses shared libs

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Binary without "dynamically linked"?

2008-08-25 Thread Jalal
Perhaps I wrote too soon. I see this option for fpc: -Xt    link with static libraries (-static is passed to linker) I will try that. --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Jalal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jalal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Linux Binary without "dynamically linked"? To: lazarus@lazarus.

[Lazarus] Linux Binary without "dynamically linked"?

2008-08-25 Thread Jalal
This is more of a FPC question, but I know FPC gurus visit here... The file program on Debian shows my Linux command line binary like this: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Is it possible to have full static linking? If so

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Window Handles

2008-08-04 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:30:35 +1000 SteveG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Found the code necessary to get the GTK handle from a Lazarus handle > (for GTK2) > fWindow(int64) := GDK_WINDOW_XWINDOW( pointer( > PGtkWidget(Form1.Handle)^.Window ) ); > > add gtk2, gdk2x to the 'uses' section More gene

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Window Handles

2008-08-03 Thread SteveG
Found the code necessary to get the GTK handle from a Lazarus handle (for GTK2) fWindow(int64) := GDK_WINDOW_XWINDOW( pointer( PGtkWidget(Form1.Handle)^.Window ) ); add gtk2, gdk2x to the 'uses' section > So far I have found that Laz uses a Gtk pointer to a structure rather > than a window ha

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Window Handles

2008-08-03 Thread SteveG
So far I have found that Laz uses a Gtk pointer to a structure rather than a window handle directly. Anybody know what type of structure (and where to find it) ? SteveG wrote: > Thanks Graeme > I will see if I can find how to convert from GTK to LCL handles (your > theory sounds good) > I have b

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Window Handles

2008-08-03 Thread SteveG
Thanks Graeme I will see if I can find how to convert from GTK to LCL handles (your theory sounds good) I have been waiting for fpGUI to be stable enough to use anyway (from the LCL point of view), so this issue may be a null point soon anyway for me. 'xwininfo' does indeed find the 'main' windo

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Window Handles

2008-08-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:37 AM, SteveG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having a problem understanding the usage of window handles in Linux > > Linux (Ubuntu 8.04): > I can find no correlation between the Laz supplied window handle > (Form1.Handle), and the X11 required handle - found using 'xwininfo -

[Lazarus] Linux Window Handles

2008-08-02 Thread SteveG
Having a problem understanding the usage of window handles in Linux Windows (XP): I can use the Win API to control (hide/show/etc) all windows, including ones created by Laz using the handles supplied by Laz (eg Form1.Handle) - they seem to be exactly the same as Windows handles. Linux (Ubuntu

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-20 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/20/08, Joost van der Sluis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And they should be added automatically if they are really used. Problem > is that some development packages are needed, but not used bij the > lazarus/fpc binaries itself. (for example the mysql-client devel > packages) No development pa

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-20 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Op maandag 19-05-2008 om 15:25 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Mattias Gaertner > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is missing? > > The development packages, but each distribution names them differently. And they should be added auto

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-19 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is missing? The development packages, but each distribution names them differently. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.o

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-19 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 18 May 2008 20:46:27 +0300 ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > added to my todo list... > > Ido > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Vincent Snijders > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ik schreef: > >> > >> Then the person that created the spec file didn't create it > >> properly imho. What i

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-19 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Op zondag 18-05-2008 om 17:01 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef ik: > > > I found this out last night since even the lazarus snapshot RPM's > don't seem to > > indicate these as dependencies, maybe assumed that they already > exist on the > > machine and the person installing has a modicum of knowledg

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-18 Thread ik
added to my todo list... Ido On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Vincent Snijders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ik schreef: >> >> Then the person that created the spec file didn't create it properly imho. > > Can you provide a patch? > > Vincent > ___ > Laz

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-18 Thread Vincent Snijders
ik schreef: > > Then the person that created the spec file didn't create it properly imho. Can you provide a patch? Vincent ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-18 Thread ik
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Lee Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ik wrote: >> I'd never used Lazarus with CentOS (it is a server distro for Linux, >> and it is not suitable enough for desktop use, use Fedora for desktop >> use instead if you wish to have redhat approach). > > Hmmm. I'm no

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-18 Thread Lee Jenkins
ik wrote: > I'd never used Lazarus with CentOS (it is a server distro for Linux, > and it is not suitable enough for desktop use, use Fedora for desktop > use instead if you wish to have redhat approach). Hmmm. I'm no distro expert by any stretch, Ido but isn't it the same if I don't choose all

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-17 Thread ik
I'd never used Lazarus with CentOS (it is a server distro for Linux, and it is not suitable enough for desktop use, use Fedora for desktop use instead if you wish to have redhat approach). For GTK2, you should install libgtk2* that is the libraries of GTK2 and also do not forget to install pixbuf

[Lazarus] Linux Installation Advise

2008-05-17 Thread Lee Jenkins
Hi all, I've loaded a new VirtualBox image with CentOS 5 and as usual, I've having a little bit of trouble installing from sources, no doubt because of my limited linux knowledge to date. The biggest challenge that I have is ensuring that all required libraries are installed. Would you recom

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 27/03/2008, Razvan Adrian Bogdan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > QTopia ones are using QT, others have their own framebuffer, fpGUI > seems to have found a place where it's most needed :) :-) A while back someone created a DOS backend for fpGUI using developer switchable framebuffer drivers. I

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-27 Thread Razvan Adrian Bogdan
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26/03/2008, Lee Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We are in the process of re-writing our POS application and this time > around we > > are wanting to included hand held table ordering. While it'll mo

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 26/03/2008, Lee Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are in the process of re-writing our POS application and this time around > we > are wanting to included hand held table ordering. While it'll most likely be > WinCE/PocketPC, I wanted to check out the possibilities of a Linux based

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-26 Thread Lee Jenkins
Warren Postma wrote: > Lee Jenkins wrote: >> I know there is the WinCE development with Lazarus/FPC, but I was wondering >> if >> it was possible and if anyone had done any development on any of the Linux >> Based >> hand helds available? >> >> Thanks >> Thanks for the response, all. We are i

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-26 Thread Bernd Mueller
Luca Olivetti wrote: > Fpc for arm generates oabi code, not eabi (Florian did something for > eabi but I hadn't really time to test it on the tablet), command line > programs with no special external libs should work just fine on the > nokia, writing gui programs is not possible now. I would rec

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-26 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Coq Thierry ha escrit: > Hello, > can't say for your Nokia, but Lazarus works on the eeePC, with a Xandros > distrib The eeepc has an x86 compatible processor and it has an almost "normal" desktop linux distribution, so it's not that surprising that it works. OTOH the nokia tablets use an

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-25 Thread Coq Thierry
Hello, can't say for your Nokia, but Lazarus works on the eeePC, with a Xandros distrib Best regards, Thierry Lee Jenkins a écrit : > Warren Postma wrote: > >> Lee Jenkins wrote: >> >>> I know there is the WinCE development with Lazarus/FPC, but I was wondering >>> if >>> it was possible

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-24 Thread Lee Jenkins
Warren Postma wrote: > Lee Jenkins wrote: >> I know there is the WinCE development with Lazarus/FPC, but I was wondering >> if >> it was possible and if anyone had done any development on any of the Linux >> Based >> hand helds available? >> >> Thanks >> >> > Like which ones? Nokia 770 table

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-24 Thread Seth Grover
I got an N800 for Christmas and have wanted to try cross-compiling for it, but I haven't had the chance yet. -SG On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Warren Postma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lee Jenkins wrote: > > I know there is the WinCE development with Lazarus/FPC, but I was > wondering if >

Re: [Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-24 Thread Warren Postma
Lee Jenkins wrote: > I know there is the WinCE development with Lazarus/FPC, but I was wondering > if > it was possible and if anyone had done any development on any of the Linux > Based > hand helds available? > > Thanks > > Like which ones? Nokia 770 tablet? W

[Lazarus] Linux Hand Helds?

2008-03-24 Thread Lee Jenkins
I know there is the WinCE development with Lazarus/FPC, but I was wondering if it was possible and if anyone had done any development on any of the Linux Based hand helds available? Thanks -- Warm Regards, Lee "Everything I needed to learn in life, I learned selling encyclopedias door to

[Lazarus] Mattersolved with 14475 was: Error Linking Lazarus (Linux) svn: 14469

2008-03-08 Thread hy-soft
Thanks, the matter seems to be solved -- -hy ___ | | hy-soft data-engineering | |mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |--- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Error Linking Lazarus (Linux) svn: 14469

2008-03-08 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:17:29 + hy-soft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi i am getting the following Error: > > ../units/i386-linux/designer.o: In function > `TDESIGNER__DOORDERBACKSELECTIONONE': > /home/hy/work/src/lazarus/designer/designer.pp:958: undefined > reference to `VMT_OBJECTINSPECTOR_

[Lazarus] Error Linking Lazarus (Linux) svn: 14469

2008-03-08 Thread hy-soft
hi i am getting the following Error: ../units/i386-linux/designer.o: In function `TDESIGNER__DOORDERBACKSELECTIONONE': /home/hy/work/src/lazarus/designer/designer.pp:958: undefined reference to `VMT_OBJECTINSPECTOR_TOIISSUEPROPERTIES' lazarus.pp(114,1) Error: Error while linking lazarus.pp(114,1)