Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-05 Thread Howard Page-Clark
On 05/1/12 12:39, Mattias Gaertner wrote: In both cases the important thing is not so much the adjective (circular, cyclic) but the combination of adjective plus noun, which /should/ be used consistently in documentation and error messages. Yes. And since this is open source, it should also

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-05 Thread marcelo.bp
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:39 AM To: Lazarus mailing list Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors Could someone explain the context? I got this error message on my TurboDelphi: [Pascal Fatal Error] unt_Principal.pas(9): F2047 Circular unit reference to 'unt_Principal

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-05 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
with the term “endless loop”. Regards, Marcelo. *From:* William Oliveira Ferreira bdexterholl...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:39 AM *To:* Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org *Subject:* Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors Could someone explain

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-05 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:39:12 -0300 marcelo.bp marcelo...@netsite.com.br wrote: Thanks William, You clarified my doubt. About the context, if you didn´t read the other posts on this subject, we were discussing the terminology for this kind of reference errors. Lazarus adopted the word

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-05 Thread marcelo.bp
-Mensagem Original- From: Mattias Gaertner Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:00 AM To: lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors Infinite loop is a more mathematical term. Since some people find the basics of computer science too special, I

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Howard Page-Clark wrote: On 03/1/12 5:43, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. I'm not familiar with graph theory and the possibly specialist technical meanings given there to

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-04 Thread marcelo.bp
I think Delphi uses the circle terminology. Can´t confirm right now, because i don´t have it installed here. Can anyone test it and report here? About the graph theory, can anyone point me a document or link? Just want to take a look. Regards, Marcelo. --

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-04 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
Could someone explain the context? I got this error message on my TurboDelphi: [Pascal Fatal Error] unt_Principal.pas(9): F2047 Circular unit reference to 'unt_Principal' Is this message you wanna translate? http://imagebin.org/191738 William de Oliveira Ferreira

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-04 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:09:20 + Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk wrote: [...] I'm not familiar with graph theory and the possibly specialist technical meanings given there to words in common use. Even though many programmers don't know, they probably use graph algorithms

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-04 Thread Bernd
2012/1/5 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de: I changed it to [...] endless loops shouldn't the correct term for this be infinite loops? If I search for endless loop on google then a wikipedia page for infinite loop comes as the first search result. Bernd --

[Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread marcelo.bp
Hello list, That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! I need a suggestion to translate this to portuguese. Usually an “invalid circle” is translated as “referência circular inválida”, but right now i am

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Maxim Ganetsky
03.01.2012 22:24, marcelo.bp пишет: Hello list, That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! Cycle in this context (package/project dependencies) means exactly what circle meant before. In fact there is no term

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Martin
On 03/01/2012 17:30, Maxim Ganetsky wrote: 03.01.2012 22:24, marcelo.bp пишет: Hello list, That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! Cycle in this context (package/project dependencies) means exactly what

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:24:24 -0300 marcelo.bp marcelo...@netsite.com.br wrote: Hello list, That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! I'm not a native English speaker, so maybe both are bad English. It

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. But people speak of circular unit reference. I never heard cyclic unit reference. If you

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread marcelo.bp
. Thanks everyone. Marcelo. -Mensagem Original- From: Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:57 PM To: Lazarus mailing list Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: The term

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Howard Page-Clark
On 03/1/12 5:43, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. I'm not familiar with graph theory and the possibly specialist technical meanings given there to words in common use.

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
marcelo.bp schrieb: That got me ! I know what a circle reference is, but can anyone explain with more details what a “cycle reference” is, please! There exist several idioms: circular [unit] references leading to *wrong* circle ... loop (endless loop) in code execution or unit references

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Martin schrieb: Cycle in this context (package/project dependencies) means exactly what circle meant before. In fact there is no term circle anymore, it was replaced by cycle. well I am not a native English speaker, but are we sure cycle is better (in terms of correctness) than circle (or

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Howard Page-Clark schrieb: On 03/1/12 5:43, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. I'm not familiar with graph theory and the possibly specialist technical meanings given there to

Re: [Lazarus] Cycle vs. Circle errors

2012-01-03 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 3-1-2012 22:51, Howard Page-Clark wrote: On 03/1/12 5:43, Mattias Gaertner wrote: The term circle was translated from German graph theory, but the common words in English graph theory are cycle and cyclic. I'm not familiar with graph theory and the possibly specialist technical