Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 11 May 2006 13:36:23 -0600 L505 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[...] > > > There are advantages and disadvantages of using real code versus using > > > DFM files. DFM files are a cleaner format than actual Pascal code. > > > Real code is easier to peak into and copy/paste than DFM files (but

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread L505
> > Back when I started using delphi, I wondered what black magic was creating > > my forms for me? Why couldn't I see and tap in to the code that created my > > forms? I guess curiosity kills the cat. > > You can edit the .dfm. Just not the form and the dfm at the same time. The DFM never told me

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:03:59 -0600 L505 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). > > > > > > > > What are the advantages? > > > > > > Easier component creation control/management via ONE language. > > > > 1) Please do not forget, that then

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 11 May 2006, [UTF-8] Bogusław Brandys wrote: > As an answer just look into way in which wxWidgets framework is > developed - XML based dialogs in zip file and totally separate source > code (with only some functions to load and initiate dialogs). > Completely separated GUI and logical

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread L505
> > > > 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). > > > > > > What are the advantages? > > > > Easier component creation control/management via ONE language. > > 1) Please do not forget, that then you will be able to Search / > Replace on component properties if they are in code

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Bogusław Brandys
As an answer just look into way in which wxWidgets framework is developed - XML based dialogs in zip file and totally separate source code (with only some functions to load and initiate dialogs). Completely separated GUI and logical code! This is positive,and Lazarus is not too much behind this

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/5/11, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Thu, 11 May 2006, Al Boldi wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >> On Thu, 11 May 2006, Micha Nelissen wrote: >>> Al Boldi wrote: >> 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). > > What are the advantages?

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread lazarus . mramirez
> Greetings! Hi. > Congrats for the delphi replacement. I think these guys are doing a great job. It's open source, so everybody can contibute... (I have some components I going to share). > 1. Lazarus ?!? Cheetah would be a better name, IMHO! The original name was "Megido", a japanese word.

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Al Boldi wrote: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Thu, 11 May 2006, Micha Nelissen wrote: Al Boldi wrote: 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). What are the advantages? Easier component creation control/management via ONE language. Management o

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Al Boldi wrote: Separation of layout and behaviour would still hold, only w/o requiring a special scripting language. It is not a language, let alone a scripting language. It's just PROP = VAL basically, but in OO-style. Micha

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Al Boldi
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > On Thu, 11 May 2006, Micha Nelissen wrote: > > Al Boldi wrote: > 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). > >>> > >>> What are the advantages? > >> > >> Easier component creation control/management via ONE language. > > > > Management of custom

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Micha Nelissen wrote: Al Boldi wrote: 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). What are the advantages? Easier component creation control/management via ONE language. Management of custom modified code is a PITA and will be a failure for big com

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Micha Nelissen
Al Boldi wrote: 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). What are the advantages? Easier component creation control/management via ONE language. Management of custom modified code is a PITA and will be a failure for big complex forms. Separate DFM/LFM is one *the* best

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-11 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 10/05/06, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). > > What are the advantages? Easier component creation control/management via ONE language. 1) Please do not forget, that then you will be able to Search / Replace on component pr

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-10 Thread Al Boldi
Mattias Gaertner wrote: > Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. Lazarus ?!? Cheetah would be a better name, IMHO! > > Sounds like cheater. I know. > May be good, may be bad. Definitely good ;) > > 3. Allow to link in other langs (via plugin eclipse style). > > You can link to other langua

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-10 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 10 May 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:08:33 +0300 > Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Greetings! > > > > Congrats for the delphi replacement. > > Thanks. > Although it is a little bit humiliating to call lazarus a 'delphi > replacement'. The biggest pa

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-10 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 10 May 2006 23:08:33 +0300 Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings! > > Congrats for the delphi replacement. Thanks. Although it is a little bit humiliating to call lazarus a 'delphi replacement'. The biggest part of the development time of FPC/Lazarus was spent on features, t

Re: [lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-10 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Hello, On 5/10/06, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). What are the advantages? dfm format is compatible with Delphi, so I can build the same software with both. 3. Allow to link in other langs (via plugin eclipse style). Pleas

[lazarus] Suggestions for Improvement

2006-05-10 Thread Al Boldi
Greetings! Congrats for the delphi replacement. It's rather neat, despite the following suggestions: 1. Lazarus ?!? Cheetah would be a better name, IMHO! 2. Replace the delphi dfm with a real code init (java style). 3. Allow to link in other langs (via plugin eclipse style). Thanks! -- Al _