[OT] Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-05 Thread George Metz
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: Goerge: Got it from Tom on the LRP list, thanks. One of those days when amost everything I said out loud was dead wrong. :) But then, if this is what it takes to get a no-hitter outta my Red Sox, I can get used to it... Yeah, that was

Re: [Leaf-devel] Upcoming MAJOR Oxygen release

2001-04-05 Thread Eric Wolzak
Hello David. I'd like to see if any of you could test drive the upcoming Oxygen release. I would like to test it, where can I get it. After an initial foray and some fudging, it would seem that glibc 2.1 is the way to go. I've converted Oxygen to run with glibc 2.1, and it seems to work

RE: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-05 Thread Mike Noyes
Steven Peck, 2001-04-04 23:09 -0700 George, try the rute tutorial at rute.sourceforge.net The license is very restrictive, but it's got a good tutorial on linux and a bit of shell scripting for free Steven, How about these two? developerWorks: Linux: Articles

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:06:00AM -0400, George Metz scribbled: One of these days, I WILL learn shell scripting and C... Aw, who'm I kidding? =) Shell scripting is easy. It all makes sense. You won't learn it, of course, until you have some need to fill, though. I've learned a lot about

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 07:51:15AM -0700, Mike Noyes scribbled: Rick George, I plan on purchasing these two books, unless someone has a better idea. I have KR's C book, but haven't read it yet. That's supposed to be _the_ book to read. :) Beginning Linux Programming ISBN: 1861002971 C

RE: [Leaf-devel] rute

2001-04-05 Thread Steven Peck
-Original Message- From: George Metz On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Steven Peck wrote: George, try the rute tutorial at rute.sourceforge.net The license is very restrictive, but it's got a good tutorial on linux and a bit of shell scripting for free Just started reading it a little just

Re: [Leaf-devel] Compiling iptables with glibc-2.0.7 (George Metz?)

2001-04-05 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Oops, I just subscibed to this list and therefore missed the post about the upcoming glibc-2.1 based Oxygen release. I must look like a fool. Of course I will give that release a try. If I can find some time tomorrow I think I'll make a kernel using Charles' patches and an iptables.lrp

[Leaf-devel] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread Kenneth Hadley
amusing product http://www.boat.be/ read a little about FireWare and you'll understand why I say amusing, though I do like 1U rackmounts ;-) Does anyone know off hand how many LRP based consumer devices exist? -Kenneth Hadley ___ Leaf-devel mailing

Re: [Leaf-devel] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:21:03AM -0700, Kenneth Hadley scribbled: amusing product http://www.boat.be/ read a little about FireWare and you'll understand why I say amusing, though I do like 1U rackmounts ;-) Does anyone know off hand how many LRP based consumer devices exist? Is it time

Re: [Leaf-devel] Upcoming MAJOR Oxygen release

2001-04-05 Thread David Douthitt
Mike Noyes wrote: Very good news! Does this mean that Debian 2.1 is no longer necessary to build packages for Oxygen? Yes, it does! ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel

[Leaf-devel] Languages

2001-04-05 Thread David Douthitt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People who are good at C say that C is easy. Every time I attempt to learn C, I fail miserably... Sounds like what happens to me every time I try to learn LISP or Smalltalk. The thing I always find fascinating is the textbooks show you how to add 5 and 6, but not

[Leaf-devel] LEAF Distribution

2001-04-05 Thread David Douthitt
To me, that is what LRP and its variants are all about: these ARE distributions, and part of maintaining a distribution is updating packages, adding features, recompiles, et al. As for a LEAF distribution, I think I would actually shy away from an actual "LEAF" image; the concept is good but the

[Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread David Douthitt
I seem to be somewhat alone in that I *LIKE* the *.lrp packaging; there is only one change I would make: rename the files from *.lrp to *.tgz. This adds the ability to know what the file format is, and allows Windows hosts to decipher the file automatically. However, there is support for

[Leaf-devel] Re: [LRP] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread Robert Sprockeels
Kenneth Hadley wrote: amusing product http://www.boat.be/ read a little about FireWare and you'll understand why I say amusing, though I do like 1U rackmounts ;-) Thanks for plugging my product ;-) Does anyone know off hand how many LRP based consumer devices exist? My guess is that

Re: [Leaf-devel] Languages

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:58:05PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: The thing I always find fascinating is the textbooks show you how to add 5 and 6, but not how to scan a configuration file; or they show you how to do a bubble sort, but not how to react to user input. It seems as if general

Re: [Leaf-devel] LEAF Distribution

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:45:59PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: As for a LEAF distribution, I think I would actually shy away from an actual "LEAF" image; the concept is good but the literal implementation would be bad. Put another way, I wouldn't have any problem with "Maple LRP"

Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:51:59PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: I seem to be somewhat alone in that I *LIKE* the *.lrp packaging; there is only one change I would make: rename the files from *.lrp to *.tgz. This adds the ability to know what the file format is, and allows Windows hosts

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [LRP] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 12:04:38AM +0200, Robert Sprockeels scribbled: http://www.boat.be/ Thanks for plugging my product ;-) BTW, it's listed in lrp.c0wz.com now. -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [LRP] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread Kenneth Hadley
- Original Message - From: "Robert Sprockeels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kenneth Hadley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "LEAF-list" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "LRP-List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:04 PM Subject: [Leaf-devel] Re: [LRP] Interesting LRP consumer device Kenneth

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [LRP] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread Robert Sprockeels
Kenneth Hadley wrote: Actually, I guess what they _really_ sell is their Linux know-how and their LRP experience... because they like it, and they know it really WORKS! Robert Extremely true, even I support few LRP boxes for profit. Though I am extremely curious about where you got

Re: [Leaf-devel] LEAF Distribution

2001-04-05 Thread Scott C. Best
David: I agree, there should be no distribution called LEAF, specifically. But...there *should* be distributions called (for instance) Maple and Oxygen that were developed by LEAF contributors. Essentially, we should distinguish the project name from the distribution name. So,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread Scott C. Best
Actually I like .lrp as well, though my complaint with it is different. I find it difficult to extract files from a .lrp without potentially overwriting important system binaries on the development box. What'd be *much* nicer is if package.lrp expanded to /tmp/package, and then

Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread David Douthitt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:51:59PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: I seem to be somewhat alone in that I *LIKE* the *.lrp packaging; there is only one change I would make: rename the files from *.lrp to *.tgz. This adds the ability to know what the file format

[Leaf-devel] dhclient, rc.pf and psentry in harmony

2001-04-05 Thread Jonathan French
Howdy, I've been upgrading to 2.9.8/2.0.36, and I finally decided to try out Matthew Schalit's rc.pf script. I'd like to present to the developers what I worked out before I post the linuxrouter.org, to flush out any errors. I decided to figure out how to allow for dhcp, rc.pf and

[Leaf-devel] Midori Linux looking for router

2001-04-05 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, The Midori Linux project wants someone to build a router based on Midori. http://midori.transmeta.com/projects.shtml If you know of someone working on one of the ideas listed here, (let us know on the midori-discuss mailing list and we'll update our references. A Router Based

Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread jdnewmil
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: Actually I like .lrp as well, though my complaint with it is different. I find it difficult to extract files from a .lrp without potentially overwriting important system binaries on the development box. I don't grok this. I have never had

[Leaf-devel] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread Steven Peck
You know, Dave C is always looking for sponsers. He does seem to mention them on the LRP webpage, one of the few things that is updated regularly. -- Steven Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sacramento, CA http://leaf.blkmtn.org

Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread S.C.Best
Jeff: Sorry you don't agree. What I mean to say was, suppose my currently running system has a working /etc/dnscache (for example). I'd be ill advised to extract a new dnscache.lrp without carefully controlling where it untar's. The defaults would overwrite what's my system was using.

Re: [Leaf-devel] dhclient, rc.pf and psentry in harmony

2001-04-05 Thread Scott C. Best
Jon: Heya. Two very keen improvements; good show. I might lift them in an update to echowall... Thanks! -Scott ... Since dhclient-script is called when the IP address changes, it seems a natural place to call rc.pf. So, in the BOUND and TIMEOUT sections, right after the gateway

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [LRP] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread George Metz
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Robert Sprockeels wrote: I must admit they were not easy to find at all - or rather: it was not easy to find a supplier in Belgium, since I didn't want to import them myself... I found my supplier in Antwerp, and he imports... from Taiwan, of course! Oh, of course. Where

Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread George Metz
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: Actually I like .lrp as well, though my complaint with it is different. I find it difficult to extract files from a .lrp without potentially overwriting important system binaries on the development box. Erm... I've never had a problem with

Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread jdnewmil
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, S.C.Best wrote: Jeff: Sorry you don't agree. Well, I am too. I feel like one of us is operating under some misconceptions about how lrpkg or tar works. By continuing this thread, I hope to grok your concern, or perhaps you will find your concerns were not