Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-12-02 Thread David Douthitt
On 30 Nov 2000, at 12:26, Rick Onanian wrote: > Yes, but I just wonder how blind people can interact with a LEAF > system... Easily. I'm working on support in Oxygen now. > The ones who have software probably won't be able to use it. Not so. > That screen-to-braille thing sounds incredibly

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-12-01 Thread Rick Onanian
David Douthitt wrote: > > > From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > What I was > > > saying above is, will blind people need the information they > > > find at the LEAF website? What for? Can they build routers? > > How do you know that one of us is NOT blind, eh? Well, I don't _know

RE: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-12-01 Thread David Douthitt
On 30 Nov 2000, at 17:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I didn't think most LEAF systems could do HTML. Most is not all :-) > > What I was > > saying above is, will blind people need the information they > > find at the LEAF website? What for? C

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Noyes
At 09:44 AM 11/30/00 -0600, David Douthitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I was hoping I had - I'm glad to see I was right. But what I have is >not an "idea" but a suggestion for EVERY page Look for some web >pages about designing web pages for the disabled and let's see if the >LEAF page can h

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Rick Onanian
Ray Olszewski wrote: > >This thread is about creating web pages that are usable by blind > >people and others. > > You've only discussed issues relating to blind people, so I wonder if you > could expand a bit on the "others". Well, how about people who don't have any money, and use lynx on a 38

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Rick Onanian
David Douthitt wrote: > On 30 Nov 2000, at 8:43, Rick Onanian wrote: > > Okay, speaking of that...do you suppose there's really a lot of > > blind people who want to build linux routers? > > Ah, but we're not speaking of them are we? Only about people wanting > to read our web page :-) Minor bu

RE: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread PBarreto
> From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Mike Noyes wrote: > > >Okay, speaking of that...do you suppose there's really a lot of > > >blind people who want to build linux routers? Do blind people > > >have video cards that read them text, or just software? If it > > >was only software, I w

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 07:39 AM 11/30/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: ... >This thread was started because I didn't think the LEAF community did >not want to shut out a large and growing segment of the American >population from using the LEAF site. This community *HAS TO* use >Lynx or other browsers that work sim

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Rick Onanian
Mike Noyes wrote: > >Okay, speaking of that...do you suppose there's really a lot of > >blind people who want to build linux routers? Do blind people > >have video cards that read them text, or just software? If it > >was only software, I would say not to worry too much about them, > >as they won'

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread David Douthitt
On 30 Nov 2000, at 8:43, Rick Onanian wrote: > Okay, speaking of that...do you suppose there's really a lot of > blind people who want to build linux routers? Ah, but we're not speaking of them are we? Only about people wanting to read our web page :-) Seriously, why not? Blind users have h

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Noyes
At 07:39 AM 11/30/00 -0600, David Douthitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This thread was started because I didn't think the LEAF community did >not want to shut out a large and growing segment of the American >population from using the LEAF site. This community *HAS TO* use >Lynx or other browsers

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Rick Onanian
Mike Noyes wrote: > Not at all! The alt tags should be in place for our site. I believe that is > what is required for blind users. Am I wrong? If so, please explain what is > necessary for blind users, or point me to a page that will help. Thanks. Well, this can be traced back to "make it look g

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Noyes
At 08:43 AM 11/30/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >David Douthitt wrote: > > This thread is about creating web pages that are usable by blind > > people and others. > >Okay, speaking of that...do you suppose there's really a lot of >blind people who want to build linux routers? D

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Noyes
At 07:39 AM 11/30/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: >On 29 Nov 2000, at 6:30, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > Ok, I thought this is why we were submitting multiple home pages. > > Different people have different ideas on page design. I thought we > > were going to leave it up to the leaf community to decide

Re: [Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread Rick Onanian
David Douthitt wrote: > This thread is about creating web pages that are usable by blind > people and others. Okay, speaking of that...do you suppose there's really a lot of blind people who want to build linux routers? Do blind people have video cards that read them text, or just software? If it

[Leaf-devel] Lynx and LEAF Home Page Design

2000-11-30 Thread David Douthitt
On 29 Nov 2000, at 6:30, Mike Noyes wrote: > Ok, I thought this is why we were submitting multiple home pages. > Different people have different ideas on page design. I thought we > were going to leave it up to the leaf community to decide which one > was best. This thread was started because I