I meant that Krasner was not prepared to write off his/their personal
investments which would have kept them going?
Read TSB stuff and all it confirms is that Kenneth is more despicable than I'd
thought! A great read though.
Fundamentally, what difference does it make. A vulture more cunning th
Krasner went along with Bates because he was under impossible pressure both
from the financial wall that he was facing and the fact that lies from the
devil are always more attractive than the truth. Disaster right now/maybe being
saved, or disaster later. Disaster later was probably inevitable
Thanks for that Rick. Interesting and does make things look bad from kenny boy!.
However, I would question why Krastner went along with him. He was a known
quantity wasn't he, even back then? If they'd done such a good job, why
couldn't they have attracted someone with a better reputation?
Furt
Original Message - Was there not some long-standing call on the club's
finances (REFF? "Bondholders"?) resulting from Ridsdale's folly that was still
in the background, and could not be cleared unless the club went through
administration - ie the legal link between "oldclub" and "newclu
Fascinating stuff Rick - but this is the bit that bothers me.
>>When KB subsequently "engineered" the administration (he had supposedly
saved us from), the vast bulk of the debt at that time was debt which did
not exist at the time that he took over from Krasner. The debt that KB shed
w
- Original Message - Rick - I'm all ears. I haven't read Broken Dreams,
and welcome a quick summary of where Kenneth comes into the story? Did he not
shed the debt?
To understand KBs background and his methods of operation
Broken Dreams is a good starting point.
Whilst it is well worthwh
Shutt was a Wilko man - he'd brought him to Sheff Wed from non-league
(Spalding?)
We signed him from Brizzle City
M
In a message dated 22/08/2012 17:48:56 GMT Daylight Time,
dwalms...@netmonkeys.co.uk writes:
Sure about Shutt? Thought he was a Bremner lad. Scored three on his debut
a
On 22/08/2012 11:48, dave walmsley wrote:
> I have very mixed feelings about Ken Bates. Obviously he's a bit shady, and
> we'd be better off owned by someone with a load of cash.
> However, he did take us on at a pretty dire time with a load of debt that I
> believe we don't now have?
> If I had
Rick - I'm all ears. I haven't read Broken Dreams, and welcome a quick summary
of where Kenneth comes into the story? Did he not shed the debt?
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Yep - Shutts hattrick was against Bournemouth - my first ever visit to ER
Matt
From: dave walmsley
To: MATTHEW GAYNOR
Cc: John Lee ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org"
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 17:48
Subject: Re: [LU] Kenneth
Sure about Shutt? Thought he was
- Original Message -
But look at it this way, you have a business which some overly ambitious
partner has brought to the point of ruin. You have no money and a pile of debt.
Then, along comes a despicable dragon, who will invest in your business and
turn it around. You don't like it, but
Sure about Shutt? Thought he was a Bremner lad. Scored three on his debut
against the mighty Shrewsbury or some other great team I think?
On 22 Aug 2012, at 17:40, "MATTHEW GAYNOR"
mailto:matthew.gayn...@btopenworld.com>> wrote:
Strachan arrived on transfer deadline day (or near enough) towards
Strachan arrived on transfer deadline day (or near enough) towards the end of
the season before - with Fairclough and Shutt.
Chapman midway through the promotion season.
Matt
From: dave walmsley
To: John Lee ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org"
Sent: Wednesday, 22 A
When was Strachan signed? Was it during the promotion season, or had he played
a few games prior to that?
Since it's now an unbelievable 24 years since Wilko took over, it's all a bit
blurred, yet at the same time it still seems only yesterday that Strachan
blasted that left foot rocket into the
From: dave walmsley
To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 11:48
Subject: [LU] Kenneth
>I have very mixed feelings about Ken Bates. Obviously he's a bit shady, and
>we'd be better off owned by someone >with a load of cash.
Can't disagree with that Dave!! Mike's rants
Dave
Are you serious.
Bates the saviour?
Bates is a vicious mean underhand bastard. That never ever did any good.
Anyone that robs the St John's Ambulance brigade has to be a twat. Not to
mention his endeavours in the BVI
Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
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He's already posting from the tropics. Or was it the Trossachs?
Coat on...
AndyE
On 22 August 2012 17:19, Chris Nickson wrote:
> > So what actually happens if our (?) number hits the big win?
>
> If Betty begins posting from a tropical isle, we'll have a good idea what
> happened.
>
> __
Bloody hell, if you believe some bloke parted the red sea, then you'll believe
anything!
But look at it this way, you have a business which some overly ambitious
partner has brought to the point of ruin. You have no money and a pile of debt.
Then, along comes a despicable dragon, who will invest
For what it's worth
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/message-to-ken-bates-sell-our-club/
Verner
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Right again.
I was so gobsmacked.
Ken Gates is a greens wet dream. He has found how to reconstitute garbage
and make money out of it. Pretty good going for a guy who makes the toxic
debt look like a slight dip in the the grand scheme.
And a mouth that makes a cess pool look like dettol.
I feel an
Rid of the rodent!!
Your help needed
Try Viral thisMichael
Dr Michael Benjamin,
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There is no other sentence on the internet that will bring Dr Mike back to
this list quicker than.. Stuff that, he's back already!! (hi Mike) :-)>
From: dwalms...@netmonkeys.co.uk
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:48:15 +
> Subject: [LU] Kenneth
>
> I have very mi
> So what actually happens if our (?) number hits the big win?
If Betty begins posting from a tropical isle, we'll have a good idea what
happened.
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Will LUFC be alive in five years time?
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Au
I have very mixed feelings about Ken Bates. Obviously he's a bit shady, and
we'd be better off owned by someone with a load of cash.
However, he did take us on at a pretty dire time with a load of debt that I
believe we don't now have?
If I had bought the club, I would probably be doing the same,
> So what actually happens if our (?) number hits the big win?
I wouldn't worry about it Steve... I got £110 of premium bonds as part of an
office investment thing 24 years ago, and I've never won a red cent...
Nigel
(the Dublin one)
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Excellent!
Well done all.
:-)
Thanks to you Betts and also to Pete and James.
Verner
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From: John Boocock
To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 11:28
Subject: [LU] Listowning Please Read
Hi e
On 22/08/2012 11:34, Steve Gillen wrote:
So what actually happens if our (?) number hits the big win? Is the list
guaranteed for the next millennium or would there be a pro rata share out?
I rather thought we would buy the Peacock and then run it properly :-)
Seriously though Steve, if we win
So what actually happens if our (?) number hits the big win? Is the list
guaranteed for the next millennium or would there be a pro rata share out?
Not that I'm looking for some cash but - well Ok, yes I am, but just wanted
to know what the situation would be in the infinitely small chance of it
ha
Hi everyone,
Just a quick note to say that the appeal for donations was bloody
overwhelming! We raised just short of £400 which means that the list
can now be guaranteed for the next FIVE years all being well. I've put
£100 of the donations into premium bonds and when I get the number I'll
This is a big worry. Whilst very respectable to lose to a team like
Blackpool, it's horrible to think that we were out -everthinged in this
match which by the sounds of it we should have lost by a greater margin. I'm
happy to lose whilst we are trying to do the right things, but hoofing up
long
Welcome back Neil Hackett (you been on your jollies lad?)
Betty
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I love the list me. After Saturday expectations were running high, now they are
just the opposite.
We've only had 2 games and we know that you afford to lose 10 in this league
and still go up.
2 weeks ago most of us on this list would have said that the squad/team is not
anywhere near good enou
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