Re: [LU] British passport eligibility!

2016-06-09 Thread Jeremy Adams
Thanks all! will let you know how it all works out. Jeremy From: Leedslist on behalf of Richard Naef Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 11:54:28 AM To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] British

Re: [LU] British passport eligibility!

2016-06-09 Thread Richard Naef
> I can't get to talk to a live person in the UK office about this cos I get put on > hold for an hour and I don't want to rack up the world's biggest phone bill. > So come on list, once again amaze me with your worldly knowledge, are my > kids entitled to become UK citizens if I hold a UK

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Matt Anderson
That's the theory. Politicians are greedy and there needs to be checks and measures on how much they borrow and a business case for it. See Greece! Not all those loans actually generate business either tangible or intangible Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Jun 2016, at 13:33, {broken-address}

[LU] British passport eligibility!

2016-06-09 Thread Jeremy Adams
So this whole Brexit thing has made me realise you lovely lot probably know the answer to this.. I'm trying to get UK passports for my two kids, however UK passport office in England is saying they are not eligible. Although I have a UK passport, I was born outside the UK, my father was

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Matt Anderson
Why should I pay for some road in Belfast or Glasgow? Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Jun 2016, at 12:57, Ian Murray wrote: > > I don't really see the Yugoslavian comparison. And in any event, bringing up > those economies is not our responsibility. Why should we pay

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Matt Anderson
"£160M net we would be better off a week." Be very sure we will never ever feel the benefit of that. We have a Tory Govt! Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Jun 2016, at 10:21, Andy Clayton wrote: > > In my project management teaching days, I'd drum it into students that if

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Ian Murray
Imported weihenstephan. Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Jun 2016, at 21:00, Richard Naef wrote: > > >> *supping some delicious German beer as I type. > > brewed in OZ under licence? > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list >

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Richard Naef
> *supping some delicious German beer as I type. brewed in OZ under licence? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Richard Naef
I was in Croatia on a walking holiday last year, and there's obviously been a lot of EU (ie German) money spent on new roads, marinas, transport links etc (and lots and lots of churches!) but when you look around you see that the lifts in the hotels, the air con units, the new buses and

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Ian Murray
That was exactly my point yesterday - the EU works only for Germany. Do you think they're bankrolling the whole thing out of some altruistic post WW2 guilt complex? Are they fuck. Good luck to them, but it's a no from me. Ian *supping some delicious German beer as I type. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address} Graham White
I was in Croatia on a walking holiday last year, and there's obviously been a lot of EU (ie German) money spent on new roads, marinas, transport links etc (and lots and lots of churches!) but when you look around you see that the lifts in the hotels, the air con units, the new buses and taxis,

Re: [LU] Birth/Nationality

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
He nicked that from Bernard ! > On 9 Jun 2016, at 12:08, {broken-address} Graham White > wrote: > > Or the quote from the Duke of Wellington who was always incensed if anyone > called him Irish because he was born in Dublin: > "If I was born in a

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Richard Naef
> And in any event, bringing up > those economies is not our responsibility. Why should we pay for some road > in Latvia? > > It's insane. for me that is root of the issue of being part of a bigger entity. I believe that we will be safer and richer and happier in the future by helping other

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Ian Murray
I don't really see the Yugoslavian comparison. And in any event, bringing up those economies is not our responsibility. Why should we pay for some road in Latvia? It's insane. Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Jun 2016, at 19:19, {broken-address} Graham White >

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address} Graham White
As well as the ex-Communist countries, some of us are old enough to remember when Spain, Portugal and Greece were military/Fascist dictatorships.  Joining the EU after the various revolutions helped to stabilise their economies and their new democratic systems  (although I agree Greece should

Re: [LU] Birth/Nationality

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address} Graham White
Or the quote from the Duke of Wellington who was always incensed if anyone called him Irish because he was born in Dublin: "If I was born in a stable, would that make me a horse?" Graham White On Thursday, 9 June 2016, 12:12, Roger Goodair

[LU] Birth/Nationality

2016-06-09 Thread Roger Goodair
> From: Ian Murray > Date: 9 June 2016 at 15:26:18 AWST > To: Paul Cundell > Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum > > I know where he was born but that doesn't make him Scottish. > > My sister was born in Joburg but she's not South

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Richard Naef
AndyC opined; > Tony Benn (I can't believe I'm quoting him!) said some wise words about > what would happen if we stayed in the "common market" back in 1975, he > lost the argument and the referendum, but the past 40 years have proved > him to be correct. fair enough, actually the EU was one of

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Andy Clayton
In my project management teaching days, I'd drum it into students that if you don't learn from your mistakes, you'll end up repeating them. Tony Benn (I can't believe I'm quoting him!) said some wise words about what would happen if we stayed in the "common market" back in 1975, he lost the

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address}
Their! Rev Grammar Nazi :-) Sent from my iPad > On 8 Jun 2016, at 12:32, ejwalsh wrote: > > The Greeks voted to end austerity which is there right. > However what did they expect then? > They wanted monies from other countries to run there state which has not > functioned

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address}
You lost me in the first line at the words Article 5 :-( Sent from my iPad > On 9 Jun 2016, at 09:23, John Boocock wrote: > > I prefer to see devolved democracy which adheres to Article 5 of the Lisbon > Treaty: > > 1. The limits of Union competences are governed by the

Re: [LU] Fwd: NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Paul Cundell
Oh okay I didn't realise that being born in Scotland with Scottish parents and grandparents is sufficient grounds to be called a cockney these days but hey ho On 9 Jun 2016 08:47, "Ian Murray" wrote: > Forgot to share this fascinating epistle with the list...:) > >

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address}
Greece has some form, right across the board, of a lax approach to taxation I think, but of course those avoiders at the top, the shipping magnates etc, made sure they were out of the loop. Agree 100% re your comment about Farage, Gove etc - they are utter f*ckwits, and symbolise better than

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-09 Thread John Boocock
See also the 45 in Scotland and the Neverendum On 08/06/2016 18:40, Nick wrote: (as an aside, what will be funny if IN is the outcome, will be to see if the OUT lot bugger off quietly into the shadows or whether they will piss and moan claiming the need for another referendum soon…much as

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread John Boocock
I prefer to see devolved democracy which adheres to Article 5 of the Lisbon Treaty: 1. The limits of Union competences are governed by the principle of conferral. The use of Union competences is governed by the principles of subsidiarity and proportionality. 2. Under the principle of

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Jim Moran
British. Clue is on the passport. :) -- > On 9 Jun 2016, at 08:10, Paul Cundell wrote: > > What would you call someone born in Edinburgh? :) > >> On 9 Jun 2016 02:23, "Ian Murray" wrote: >> >> Think it's a bit of a stretch to call Blair

[LU] Fwd: NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Ian Murray
Forgot to share this fascinating epistle with the list...:) Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Ian Murray > Date: 9 June 2016 at 15:26:18 AWST > To: Paul Cundell > Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum > > I know where

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Robinson, Mick
Don't tempt me :-) -Original Message- From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Paul Cundell Sent: 09 June 2016 08:11 To: Ian Murray Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum What would you call someone

Re: [LU] NON LU: European Referendum

2016-06-09 Thread Paul Cundell
What would you call someone born in Edinburgh? :) On 9 Jun 2016 02:23, "Ian Murray" wrote: > > Think it's a bit of a stretch to call Blair Scottish. > > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: