Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Brian/Support
I think you summarized it quite well. Each researcher makes their own decision on what to include as events and where to put details they found about that event. It is also a matter of personal choice on what to include with a source. The "essential" information is to identify the document, web pag

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
Thanks, Mary for the encouragement. You express my thoughts better than I seem to do! > > From: Mary Fowler Leek >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 9:35 PM >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event > > >Marg, >  >You aren’t the

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
I seem to be confused. The biography is the source, but within it you find events. So the events would go in the event field and the publication information, pg number etc into the source and source detail. Likely only a few events would be transcribed. If the book contained information about ot

RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
Marg, You aren’t the only one; I have some of those clippings, too! For these, I use as a lead in for the obituary transcription in the Obituary Event notes: … he (or she) was remembered in a published obituary And then I type in the obituary transcription If we have a clipping, we ‘k

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Ron Ferguson
I do not consider a biography to be an event *in* a persons life, it is a record of things which may, or may not, have happened during their life. It is, therefore, a source for events/facts, but should also be treated with care as biographies often contain errors of fact. Ron Ferguson http://ww

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
Same is true of sources, Brian. A neighbor gave the census info. Or the only one home was a young child who gave the information. People change names on the census because they are covering something up from their past. Women lie about their age when they get older; or on marriage records when t

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
The same way a biography about a person can hold events even if the person has died. > > From: Ron Ferguson >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 5:23 PM >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event > >How can it possibly be a fact in

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
Am I the only person who has inherited news clippings without any publication info? Not even a date or newspaper? Not much source there, I'm afraid. When I source the event with the clipping, it's really dry. "Unknown newspaper, unknown date, unknown place." If  I pick facts from the obit to add

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
I agree also. It needs to be a source. But for my purposes, I'll use it also as an event so the transcription will go into the main part of the page. If I were thinking of publishing, I would do it differently since readers would be more in tune with checking the sources. I am hoping to present

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
That would be a find! An inquest would give a lot of family info. > > From: Doug Laidlaw >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 4:09 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event > >Comparing an obituary with an inquest may help.  The

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
I guess this another place where we each choose what seems most useful according to what we intend to do with our research. Actually, I think of a birth and death as an event also, but we don't need to put them there because Legacy has the needed fields. For now I think I'll use the event field,

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
I'm glad I read about the different ways. I like the idea of using the obit as an event and hadn't thought of doing it before. Since events are sourced also, there will be a source in the Master Source list. I could enter that as a death source, leaving the detail brief and using the transcripti

RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
LOL !! What, my father wasn't the sweet loving kind man the obit said he was? :-) One more thing to remember about obits...the so-called facts were supplied by well-meaning relatives during a time of great emotional stress. And the surviving spouse may not have been involved in supplying th

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Dick Nixon
It seems pretty clear what a source is...where you found it etc. But I think many get too hung up on the literal meaning of the words "event" or "fact" ... as you can see in some of the above answers. What is important is where information appears in your reports, how it is formatted, and how use

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marli Yoder
I agree. I like to see what I have and still need to find on a person, so I have lots of events-some sourced, some not - Original Message From: Lee Bruch To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Fri, November 16, 2012 3:46:10 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event And to further e

RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Ron Ferguson
How can it possibly be a fact in a person's life when the person is dead? In reality many obits. are sanitised versions of the truth anyhow. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ GOONS #5307 "M. Brenzel" wrote: >But you can also look at it as a fact in the person's life. An obituary was >pub

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread JLB
I record an obit under Death Notes for the individual, and use it as a source for the other people mentioned in it. And the source would most often be written as Newspaper: [Name, Location] and the text of the obit copied under Source Detail. - JL Beeken JLog - simple computer technology for ge

RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Lee Bruch
And to further explain: For my use, a source is the where I heard about, or others can find out about, either the event or record. Thus, a death is an EVENT, an obituary is a RECORD, and the newspaper that ran the obituary, or where that obituary can be currently found, is a SOURCE -Original

RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Lee Bruch
Everyone has their own needs and preferences. (It must be hard for genealogy programmers to fulfill all those needs!!!). But I try to simplify things in my own mind. So for me, an event is simply what happened (born, lived at, moved to, died, etc.) and a record is a record of those events. So f

RE: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread M. Brenzel
But you can also look at it as a fact in the person's life. An obituary was published for the individual. -Original Message- From: Doug Laidlaw [mailto:laidl...@hotkey.net.au] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 4:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Eve

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Ron Ferguson
I agree, Peggy, I only ever use an Obituary as a Source. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Marg Strong Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event Speaking of obituary event (someone recently used it as an illustration

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
Comparing an obituary with an inquest may help. The inquest itself is an event; the record of the proceedings is a source. Doug. On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:03:25 +1100 Doug Laidlaw wrote: > I would think of it as a source. It is not something that > happened in the history of the individual in qu

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
I would think of it as a source. It is not something that happened in the history of the individual in question, but an entirely separate piece of documentary evidence. Doug. On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:04:45 -0800 (PST) Marg Strong wrote: > Speaking of obituary event (someone recently used it as a

RE: [LegacyUG] replacing source -- SourceWriter to Basic

2012-11-16 Thread Bobby Johnson
Brian, I believe this is because GEDCOM does not handle SW style sources or does not handle them well. I, for one, will not give up the convenience of SW. But then, for now I have no reason to import my database to another genealogy program. Bobby From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@th

Re: [LegacyUG] Building Web Site

2012-11-16 Thread Dennis
Jim/Brian, This last thing did the trick. I now have the web page without all those extended sources. I'll keep this fix for future reference. Thanks, Dennis On 11/16/2012 2:02 PM, Jim Terry/Support wrote: > Dennis, > > Try these steps: > > 1. With Legacy closed, please browse into th

[LegacyUG] Obituary Event

2012-11-16 Thread Marg Strong
Speaking of obituary event (someone recently used it as an illustration) I didn't think of it as being an event, but as a source, with the transcription in the detail. If it were listed as an event, then it would be seen in the body of the report, but as a source, it would be found in the foot

Re: [LegacyUG] Building Web Site

2012-11-16 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Dennis, Try these steps: 1. With Legacy closed, please browse into the Legacy folder on your hard drive and delete the WebPage.USR file and also the Legacy.exe program file. 2. Next, go to http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadUpdate.asp and run the update. This will replace the deleted Legacy

Re: [LegacyUG] Building Web Site

2012-11-16 Thread Dennis
Brian, Just commented to Jim that I tried the reset option but the files still build. I remember this was a problem and agree it was fixed. As I said I built a site last Oct. using the same method but now I backed to having this file build. Dennis On 11/16/2012 12:55 PM, Brian/Support wrote

Re: [LegacyUG] Building Web Site

2012-11-16 Thread Dennis
Jim, Tried what you suggested. It still didn't correct this file glut. The i0 file was 15KB. By the time it built the last file, i1251, that file size was 4114KB. Dennis On 11/16/2012 12:30 PM, Jim Terry/Support wrote: > Dennis, > > Open the Web Page Creation tool and click the Rese

Re: [LegacyUG] Building Web Site

2012-11-16 Thread Brian/Support
Further to my earlier message. I have checked our problem reporting system. There was a problem of duplicated sources in Individual style web pages but that was fixed in 2009. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 16/11/2012 12:

Re: [LegacyUG] Building Web Site

2012-11-16 Thread Brian/Support
I have tested the web page creation and when I selected sources on a separate page there was only one sources.htm file created in the web page files. That sources.htm file listed all the sources for the people in the file. There were no source lists on the individual's web pages. I can only reiter

re: [LegacyUG] Building Web Site

2012-11-16 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Dennis, Open the Web Page Creation tool and click the Reset button in the lower right. Next, reselect your webpage options and then recreate your Individual web. This may resolve the source citations problem. Jim Legacy Family Tree Technical Support Original Message > From: "D

RE: [LegacyUG] Problem receiving List messages

2012-11-16 Thread Peter
This is what I just sent in a off list message to a very nice subscriber who tried to help me with the problem. "Thank You! Here is the really strange thing with my subscription … I am subscribed under my email address (mey88...@webenet.net) and nothing has come under that email address. I j

Re: [LegacyUG] Pre order book

2012-11-16 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
If you go directly to http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=B_DIGIMGPOit will work. I think the email server had too many hits all at once. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

Re: [LegacyUG] Problem receiving List messages

2012-11-16 Thread Ward Walker
This is an frequent, on-going problem. You are half-subscribed, in that we can see your posts, but you are not getting posts. The only solution is to contact Legacy Support. They will fix it. You can always look in the LUG archive to see the list traffic. (You will see many e-mails on this very

Re: [LegacyUG] new biological father

2012-11-16 Thread Brian/Support
I would not use child status at all. The Relationship to Father and Relationship to Mother are where you indicate the children were adopted by the father and are the biological children of the mother. The Adopted child status still exists in the child status lists from the days before Legacy suppor

Re: [LegacyUG] Pre order book

2012-11-16 Thread Brian/Support
Keep trying, the demand was so large that our servers had trouble handling the volume of orders. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com On 16/11/2012 10:05, Kay Keating wrote: > I am getting a "500" error when I attempt to pre-order the new book. > Kay Keating --

Re: [LegacyUG] Problem receiving List messages

2012-11-16 Thread Brian/Support
I have fwd this message to our list coordinator. He will check your subscription. Meantime you might want to check that the list messages are not being filtered out by your anti-spam software. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

Re: [LegacyUG] Pre order book

2012-11-16 Thread Sherry/Support
Kay, Contact sa...@legacyfamilytree.com or call them at 1-800-753-3453. They can help you with your order. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Kay Keating wrote: > I am getting a "500" error when I attempt to pre-order the new book. > Kay K

RE: [LegacyUG] new biological father

2012-11-16 Thread Rita Lynn McKale
Thank you Michele, Yes, it all made sense. When I added them to my uncle and aunt, in the family view they went from showing as ½ kids to showing nothing after their name. Doing it that way I thought they were going to show up twice in the family view, but they did not. I added the correct

Re: [LegacyUG] new biological father

2012-11-16 Thread Doug Laidlaw
The 1/2 is how the child of two families will show. Bring up the "Children's Settings" for the child. In the bottom centre of the dialog is "Child Status." Add something like "Adoptive" to the drop-down list there, and attach that to the child in the adoptive family. Doug. On Fri, 16 Nov 2012

RE: [LegacyUG] Problem receiving List messages

2012-11-16 Thread Michele Lewis
Welcome back, Constance! I see your message just fine J Michele From: Oregon Rain [mailto:mey88...@webenet.net] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 10:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Problem receiving List messages We went on an extended vacation so I unsubscribe

[LegacyUG] Problem receiving List messages

2012-11-16 Thread Oregon Rain
We went on an extended vacation so I unsubscribed from this list. When we returned I subscribed again, that was in mid October, but as of this morning I have not received an email through the list except the notice asking me to verify my subscription. Did my subscription successfully go through?