On 2011/03/06 01:14, James Cook wrote:
I'd still I'd like to know how/where you would record the title?
I think most responders have missed what you're really asking. Yes, most of
these family stories are just that, and you seem to be aware of being cautious.
I'd enter the person without any
Hi James,
In a nutshell, yes. Most modern knighthoods awarded are Knight of the
British Empire which carries the suffix KBE eg. Sir Joe Blogs KBE, older
ones are Knights of the Garter, Knights of the Thistle (Scottish), but in
medieval times I think we are usually just referring to a Sir without
I agree with you about wishful thinking. I had the same thing happen to me
when an ancestor was supposed to be one of the signers of the Declaration of
Independence. It was even claimed in a few obituaries for a prominent family
member probably to boost his class status. I found out later it
I presume that you have check the Dooms Day Book for your William The
Conqueror item?
On Mar 6, 2011, at 7:10 AM, William Boswell wrote:
I agree with you about wishful thinking. I had the same thing happen to me
when an ancestor was supposed to be one of the signers of the Declaration of
On 2011/03/06 15:45, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
Just like everyone in the States with the last name LEE has a family
legend that they are related to Robert E. LEE. My wife's cousin told me
about this unproven claim. I wrote it up in my database as just that ...
an unproven claim. Later, when I
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From: Mike Fry
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 2:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Best way to record someone was a Knight (as in
shining armor)?
On 2011/03/06 15:45, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
Just like everyone in the States with the last
Maybe that is the reason Robert E. Lee named his horse Traveller.
Jim Smith
On 3/6/2011 9:37 AM, Mike Fry wrote:
On 2011/03/06 15:45, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
Just like everyone in the States with the last name LEE has a family
legend that they are related to Robert E. LEE. My wife's cousin
James,
If the information which you have given us is all you have, I would not
record it other than to put it in your ToDos as something to prove. It
should be easy enough to find out if there ever was a UK knight with that
name, just put Sir in front and Google eg. Sir Joe Bloggs, (include the
I'd still I'd like to know how/where you would record the title?
Are you suggesting using TODOs unless you see an original document for
yourself?
Why would a report by a deceased relative be any more or less a valid
source than a book on the library shelf?
For instance, I have a book called A
James,
Thank you for the added detail. I have already answered your first question,
A knight has the prefix Sir and the suffix would depend on the order of
chivalry which is not known.
I do not suggest that somebody's memory is worth less than something written
in a book, I actually rank them as
I'd be very wary of accepting, without some corroborating proof, what amounts
to a family story unless it comes from someone actually involved. I grew up
with the 'knowledge' that my family was related to Admiral Sir William Loring -
a leading light in Australia's naval history. As I got
Understood. Will start a new thread on managing leads.
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Is 'Sir' all that is needed? Is the word 'Knight' entered into Legacy
anywhere (suffix, event)? I had not considered there were different
orders initially, so perhaps a membership event makes more sense
there.
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Hi James,
I have a number of titled gentry in my tree, from the middle ages and
I put his title (Sir) in the Title Pre. and his Knight (Knt) or
Baronet (Bt) in the Title Suf. Then should you know anything more
about how or why he got his title, I add it to my Notes on that person.
At 10:14 AM
James,
You might want to look at Burke's General Armory on Google Books, and visit
the website of the College of Arms. www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/
From the perspective of what you can do with Legacy, this deserves more
general treatment than the thread title implies. Relatively few are
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