Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-10 Thread Gene Young
On 12/10/2013 1:20 AM, Wendy Howard wrote: Perhaps a list or table could be supplied showing all of these existing shortcuts? What is supplied in the Help is very short. Wendy Help index tab enter keyboard. This brings up 66 lines of keyboard shortcuts already provided to you. --

Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-10 Thread JV Leavitt
The list is short because that's all there is. Joseph Leavitt On 12/9/2013 10:20 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Perhaps a list or table could be supplied showing all of these existing shortcuts? What is supplied in the Help is very short. Wendy Sherry/Support said the following on 10/12/2013

[LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again--adding unlinked female

2013-12-10 Thread Dee Whiting
From Sherry: Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone. The programmer told us We had to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are now either F-keys or Ctrl- or Alt-keys. I have seen the list in the Help,

Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again--adding unlinked female

2013-12-10 Thread Gene Young
On 12/10/2013 10:05 AM, Dee Whiting wrote: From Sherry: Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone. The programmer told us We had to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are now either F-keys or Ctrl-

Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again--adding unlinked female

2013-12-10 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 10/12/2013 15:05, Dee Whiting wrote: I have seen the list in the Help, but here is one I didn’t notice. Can you please tell me how to add a new, unlinked female, for example, using keyboard shortcuts? Ctrl+N - it's on the list in Help. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines:

RE: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-10 Thread Lee Bruch
. From: Robert57P_gmail [mailto:robert...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again Even better, a list that shows OLD SHORTCUTÂ and NEW SHORTCUT (with n/a in the NEW SHORTCUT column for ones

[LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-09 Thread Dee Whiting
I have read the thread and must add that the removal of the keyboard shortcuts has killed my desire to buy the new version. I had it in my cart, along with all the new CDs, but backed off when I tried the free version and experienced this loss. I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and would

Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-09 Thread Sherry/Support
Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone. The programmer told us We had to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are now either F-keys or Ctrl- or Alt-keys. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family

Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-09 Thread Wendy Howard
Perhaps a list or table could be supplied showing all of these existing shortcuts? What is supplied in the Help is very short. Wendy Sherry/Support said the following on 10/12/2013 6:40 p.m.: Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone. The programmer told us We had to abandon all the one- and

Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-09 Thread Robert57P_gmail
Even better, a list that shows OLD SHORTCUT and NEW SHORTCUT (with n/a in the NEW SHORTCUT column for ones that no longer work) and what they do. This should actually also be included in the HELP so it is available for us long-term. I'm sure there will be some old non-working shortcuts that I

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread Lee Bruch
[mailto:1familytree@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:39 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts snip (And in reference to the future of keyboards, I would not ever dare to suggest that that is for everyone, especially programmers

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread JV Leavitt
to be removed. I will persavere I promise. Kind Regards, Mark -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts Thanks for the quick response

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread William Boswell
that poking at the screen probably wears the monitor out real quick. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 11:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts My experiences

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
, November 29, 2013 11:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts My experiences with touch screens are not happy memories. WAAAY back-in-the-day (early 1980s), a national chain had 'em in a store-near-me as an improvement; some improvement. Instead

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread William Boswell
@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts Bill, RE: I don't think a lot of these new electronic gadgets are there yet. Like digital TV signals which are still glitchy and sometimes you lose the channel for hours. Technology is moving too fast just to get it into the stores

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread Ron Ferguson
Oh, please, it isn’t! The world is a bit bigger than the USA, and Legacy covers more than one country. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: William Boswell Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 9:54 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts I know

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread Virginia Blakelock
William - I expect Legacy is just keeping up with the times, but it will be a loss in productivity for some users. You can still find used Avant Stellar keyboards - a classic and probably the best keyboard for a professional typist ever built (function keys on left!). My Avant Stellar is about

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread John B. Lisle
@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts Bill, RE: I don't think a lot of these new electronic gadgets are there yet. Like digital TV signals which are still glitchy and sometimes you lose the channel for hours. Technology is moving too fast just to get it into the stores

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/11/29 23:54, William Boswell wrote: I know digital TV is everywhere even with antennas. What I'm saying is the technology just isn't up to where it should be when we have glitchy signals even with cable. Even in 3rd-world South Africa, we have a very good, HD Satellite network. --

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread Ron Ferguson
It would be nice if we had, Mike, mine's OK but a lot of the country isn't. Mind you it is getting better. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Mike Fry Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 10:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread William Boswell
Thank you. I'll check it out. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Virginia Blakelock [mailto:vblakel...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 5:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts William - I expect Legacy is just keeping up

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-29 Thread Virginia Blakelock
Bill - For old keyboards you want to deal with a company that repairs them and has the parts. Otherwise if a part fails, you are out of luck. Virginia On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:58 PM, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. I'll check it out. Bill Boswell -Original

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread Kathy Thompson
I hope not - I can't hold a mouse or a pen for long enough to do a lot of things - I rely on a keyboard for a lot (a LOT) of my work and communications On 28 November 2013 18:01, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.comwrote: Regarding the Keyboard shortcuts - I think if you look at it from

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard Shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread Alan Pereira
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard Shortcuts People were asking for a more up-to-date look. What's more contemporary than the ribbon bar that seems to be standard these days? Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Kathy, Think touchscreen. On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: I hope not - I can't hold a mouse or a pen for long enough to do a lot of things - I rely on a keyboard for a lot (a LOT) of my work and communications On 28 November 2013 18:01, Jay

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread Kathy Thompson
y eah, but still - there's something nice about actually hearing the typing on a keyboard rather than the electronic click from a touchscreen keyboard. On 29 November 2013 06:10, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.comwrote: Kathy, Think touchscreen. On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:08 AM,

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread singhals
Mmmm -- I've heard /that/ before. Mostly from people who don't program in ASSEMBLER Jay 1FamilyTree wrote: Regarding the Keyboard shortcuts - I think if you look at it from the prospective of the future of the keyboard, you will be glad you started moving away from those (Keyboard only

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread singhals
Allow me to concur with Wendy's opinion of having to reach for the freakin' mouse every few seconds. For those of us who use more than two fingers for typing, that mouse is as unhandy as a rubber crutch outdoors at 95F. The mouse issue is my major black-mark against Legacy, only partially

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Well, I have to speak up here and disagree. I edit an average of at least 300 persons records every day and I hardly ever take my hand OFF the mouse. (And in reference to the future of keyboards, I would not ever dare to suggest that that is for everyone, especially programmers, but the general

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread singhals
As a matter of not that idle curiosity and marginally on-topic -- what's the best cpm typing on a touchscreen? I have a friend who has switched to a touch-screen because she was told it would be easier on her arthritic fingers. The advice is probably right, mostly because she says it takes so

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Well, I have to speak up here and disagree. I edit an average of at least 300 persons records every day and I hardly ever take my hand OFF the mouse. (And in reference to the future of keyboards, I would not ever dare to suggest that that is for everyone, especially programmers, but the general

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread John B. Lisle
: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts Well, I have to speak up here and disagree. I edit an average of at least 300 persons records every day and I hardly ever take my hand OFF the mouse. (And in reference to the future of keyboards, I would not ever dare to suggest that that is for everyone

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread Leonard Johnson
, 2013 9:39 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts Well, I have to speak up here and disagree. I edit an average of at least 300 persons records every day and I hardly ever take my hand OFF the mouse. (And in reference to the future

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Lang
. Kind Regards, Mark -Original Message- From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts Thanks for the quick response, Brian. Your answer is very disappointing

RE: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-28 Thread William Boswell
it. From: Leonard Johnson [mailto:legacy8.swed...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 12:16 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts I agree with you William. I've been typing all my life or it seems like it. I refuse to use Windows 8, I do

[LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Wendy Howard
Where have all the keyboard shortcuts gone? The list in v8 is significantly shorter than the one for v7, and my old favourites are not working. Basics such as Edit Wife (E - W) and Edit Husband (E - H) appear to have vanished. Along with Add Daughter and Add Son, Husband's Parents, even the

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Brian/Support
They have gone. One by-product of the change to the Ribbon control we use in Legacy 8 is that we can no longer use those old two letter shortcuts and now can only use Function Key, Alt-Key or CTRL-Key shortcuts as documented in the Help. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Wendy Howard
Thanks for the quick response, Brian. Your answer is very disappointing, though. I much prefer keyboard shortcuts to reaching for the mouse or trackpad. This might be a deal-breaker for me. I'll have to think about it. Quite happy with v7.5, so have no qualms about continuing to use it for now

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Brian/Support
As I understand it from the programmer's explanation during the beta testing, we cannot trap (technical term for capturing for a special purpose) standard key presses and pass those on to implement the ribbon functions. Making a suggestion is unlikely to change anything since what you will be

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard Shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread JV Leavitt
If ribbon control eliminates keyboard shortcuts, then the solution is simple -- Eliminate ribbon control! Way too much is being sacrificed for what looks to me like nothing more than a fashion thing. I am discovering to my dismay that there is a list of things that are worse in this version --

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard Shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Ron Bernier
Sorry JV Leavitt, I realize some folks lived by keyboard shortcuts, but there are a lot of us that do not/did not. Obviously, Ribbon Bar is offensive to you, but some of us, myself being one of them prefer the new ribbon bar. I would not want to see the new ribbon control eliminated. Sometimes

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard Shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Sherry/Support
People were asking for a more up-to-date look. What's more contemporary than the ribbon bar that seems to be standard these days? Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:41 PM, JV Leavitt jleavi...@att.net wrote: If ribbon control eliminates keyboard

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Wendy Howard
Sorry Brian, whoever told you that either doesn't know enough to give an informed answer, or thinks keyboard shortcuts should go in the too-hard basket and be forgotten about. Ken and Dave may remember meeting my other half Nigel on the 2010 cruise around New Zealand. He's a software

Re: [LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts

2013-11-27 Thread Wendy Howard
Did I mention that I'm getting tired? It's almost time for me to go to sleep. ;-) I've just re-read the thread below, and I appreciate that the old single-letter-single-letter shortcuts might not be able to be restored, that those functions would have to be reassigned to other key combinations.

[LegacyUG] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Happiness, moving citations, and anyone in NJ?)

2010-02-05 Thread Wendy Howard
A small correction - Ctrl-X is CUT, not delete. Effectively the same, if all you want to do is remove a block of text. But if you want to shift it to another location, then you want to CUT it from its current position (thereby deleting it from your document and saving it in your computer's memory